# Wordsteal and Wordox

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 17, 2007, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315 "2007-12-17T08:32:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/21 "2011-10-18T16:48:59Z")

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Oddly, there is this calypso song streaming through my brain pan…

Dey back to back and belly to belly,  
Dey don’t give a damn, dey done dead already…

Weird.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/22 "2011-10-18T17:00:46Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I like Words with Friends, but something about the tile values and bonus tile placements doesn’t feel quite right to me. It’s easier to get mega-magnified total word values (I made a word worth ~160 points against my mom the other day that didn’t even use all my letters. She was…not pleased.)

Yeah, putting a 10 point letter on a triple letter/triple word score is a killer. Sometimes it’s too easy to do.  
I also don’t like that Bingos are only 25 points. I like the 50 point bonus from Scrabble.

And I really want my app to start working again! GRRR! It’s been two days!

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/23 "2011-10-18T17:13:40Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I like Words with Friends, but something about the tile values and bonus tile placements doesn’t feel quite right to me. It’s easier to get mega-magnified total word values

I’ve noticed that too. Words With Friends strikes me as much more of a game about board control/placement than it is about vocabulary–nothing wrong with that, but if you’re expecting a serious Scrabble game then you’ll be somewhat disappointed.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/24 "2011-10-18T17:57:28Z")

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> [@Another\_Stranger\_Me](#):
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> I see what you did there… 😛 Did no one else, or am I hearing a whooshing sound too?

I get it now. Completely missed it first time. 🙂

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/25 "2011-10-18T18:58:03Z")

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What happens when dyslexics play Scrabble?

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2011, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/26 "2011-10-18T23:05:02Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> As someone who’s played Words with Friends for a while now, I have to wonder: how are all these blatant Scrabble rip-offs allowed to proliferate with impunity? Is Hasbro just the world’s biggest pussy, or are their patents/copyrights that weak?

I’m not a lawyer and I’m not speaking from experience, only a casual interest as a gamer.

You can’t a game’s rules\*, so designers are left with trademark and copyright for protection. (You can patent mechanisms used by the game, such as the Trouble popper, but not the rules. Things like turning a card sideways to indicate it is tapped in Magic: the Gathering are a little more of a grey area, but it’s been filed.) Furthermore, Scrabble was created in 1948, so any patents have long since expired.

If you sufficiently file off the trademark and copyrighted material, you can make a decent copy\*\*. Don’t call it Scrabble. Modify the board layout. Change the tile counts and values. Remove and replace any original art. Now, you have a different game.

\*Technically, you might be able to patent the rules, but it’s less likely to stand up when challenged.  
\*\*Being allowed to make a copy doesn’t mean you won’t have the pants sued off of you by Hasbro or other companies with deep pockets.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/27 "2011-10-20T01:02:27Z")

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> [@Zeriel](#):
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> Words with Friends may be the single worst coded application I’ve ever run across. It basically renders my Droid useless when installed, because its background task is so bloated it makes Jabba the Hutt look svelte.

> [@Enderw24](#):
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> My Words With Friends app crapped out on Sunday. Every time I get it to start up, it force quits back to the main iPod menu. I’ve even synched the system up to my computer and reinstalled the software. No dice.

I also had serious crashing issues with WWF- and it takes fucking forever to reboot- so I switched to…

> [@Giraffe](#):
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> Several of us on GB have been playing Word Feud which I actually like better, even though it isn’t quite as shiny or feature-rich as Words with Friends. It just feels a bit more true to Scrabble. It’s available for both Android and iOS.

Invite sent. I’m dutchboy208 on Wordfeud if anyone wants to [del]beat[/del] play me.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/28 "2011-10-20T02:15:09Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> I also had serious crashing issues with WWF- and it takes fucking forever to reboot- so I switched to…
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> Invite sent. I’m dutchboy208 on Wordfeud if anyone wants to [del]beat[/del] play me.

Yeah Zynga’s a crappy company that makes crappy games. And they’ve got an IPO soon that’s going to make them billions. Huzzah!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/29 "2011-10-20T15:42:12Z")

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Don’t remind me. It took me two years to break my Mafia Wars addiction (clean and sober for 2 months now!)

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**Author:** ![MyNameIsNobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@MyNameIsNobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyNameIsNobody)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/30 "2012-09-23T16:51:50Z")

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A new version of Wordox/Wordsteal can be found here : [http://fundox.free.fr](http://fundox.free.fr). It’s completely free and without ads.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wordsteal-and-wordox/430315/31 "2012-09-23T16:54:50Z")

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Reported.

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