# Wore some pajama pants with cute frogs, was approached by white nationalists. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 13, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757 "2017-02-13T15:11:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/41 "2017-02-14T14:52:13Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > “It’s right in front of you, just a few shelves up!” \ No! It is over in the seig aisle! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/42 "2017-02-14T14:54:32Z")
> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#): > > No! It is over in the seig aisle! _contemplates a suitable punishment_ ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/43 "2017-02-14T15:22:50Z")
> [@White SIFL](#): > > You lost me at “wore some pajama pants [in public]”. Seriously. Anyone who wears pajamas in public kind of deserves anything that happens to him. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/44 "2017-02-14T15:33:31Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > What Pepe the Frog has become a symbol of is contempt for the lunatic fringe of the Left - the people who are stupid enough to believe that a Mexican frog is the new face of Nazism. I don’t think that’s a sufficient apology. If they co-opt a symbol for whatever reason, then it’s their symbol, so others are free to characterize it as their symbol. It can be other things at the same time, such as just a regular meme or a web comic, but just because it is sometimes trolling doesn’t mean it is not also their symbol. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/45 "2017-02-14T15:44:00Z")
> [@Trancephalic](#): > > [Rather poignant comic by Furie](https://thenib.com/pepe-the-frog-to-sleep-perchance-to-meme). > > Nazis are plagiarists by nature. Nothing completely evil can create anything worthwhile. I think there’s a Tolkien quote to that effect. Theoden says often, but not always: “Oft evil will, shall evil mar.” Or is there another quote? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/46 "2017-02-14T17:41:30Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > That depends on your definition of “alt-right”. If you are referring to white nationalists, white supremacists or neo-nazis, no. The only reason why anyone believes that is true is because two guys with a Twitter account succeeded in tricking Hillary Clinton’s campaign into publicly humiliating itself by [declaring war on a cartoon frog](https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/). What Pepe the Frog has become a symbol of is contempt for the lunatic fringe of the Left - the people who are stupid enough to believe that a Mexican frog is the new face of Nazism. Care to explain why [Richard Spencer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer) wears a Pepe lapel pin? Oh, and “those two guys”? Roger Stone and Donald Trump, Jr. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/47 "2017-02-14T18:18:38Z")
> [@DkTrdGuy](#): > > I am humiliated. I feel like I have been fooled. I always assumed that white nationalists were rednecks with no teeth. And I had no idea that frog was associated them. It is my fault though, I don’t keep up with the news and current events. Too depressing. However, from now on I will make an effort to stay in the loop on what’s going on in this country. Does your post qualify as fake news? ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/48 "2017-02-14T18:45:56Z")
> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#): > > No! It is over in the seig aisle! 🆒 Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/49 "2017-02-14T20:30:41Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > Care to explain why [Richard Spencer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer) wears a Pepe lapel pin? Because while Richard Spencer is indeed a white nationalist, he is not _only_ a white nationalist. A fan of Trump wearing a symbol associated with the new President’s online fans to the new President’s inauguration is not an event that requires an underlying conspiracy theory. > [@](#): > > Oh, and “those two guys”? Roger Stone and Donald Trump, Jr. No, Jared Swift and Paul Town. You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. Stop digging. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/50 "2017-02-14T22:05:48Z")
Why has [Pepe been branded a hate symbol](http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37493165)? > [@Grumman](#): > > No, Jared Swift and Paul Town. You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. Stop digging. Try reading your own link. Whose names are on those tweets? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/51 "2017-02-14T22:22:00Z")
This bears repeating. > [@Ludovic](#): > > If they co-opt a symbol for whatever reason, then it’s their symbol, so others are free to characterize it as their symbol. It can be other things at the same time, such as just a regular meme or a web comic, but just because it is sometimes trolling doesn’t mean it is not also their symbol. Or is the Anti-Defamation League nothing more than a bunch of lunatic fringe Leftists? ---
**Author:** ![Lydia\_Phalfav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a6a055/32.png) [@Lydia\_Phalfav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lydia_Phalfav)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2017, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757/52 "2017-02-14T22:27:15Z")
Sargon of Akkad also did a video to explain it earlier in Jan: [The Symbol of the Resistance - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM0VyoVsCYg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wore-some-pajama-pants-with-cute-frogs-was-approached-by-white-nationalists/779757.md?page=2)