# Workers paradise: North Korea and hunger. What can be done? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 26, 2005, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/workers-paradise-north-korea-and-hunger-what-can-be-done/314274 "2005-07-26T19:07:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2005, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/workers-paradise-north-korea-and-hunger-what-can-be-done/314274/21 "2005-07-27T20:56:59Z")
So NK has alot of damage it is capable of inflicting. They have chemical & bio weapons, and maybe nuclear weapons. they have missiles that can reach Japan and artillery that can reach Seoul. They have a gigantic special forces unit that can commit alot of terrorist acts on command. Someone (maybe JFK) said that anyone can kill the president, just as long as they are willing to die themselves. That wouldn’t be a problem for these NK special forces units. They’d do alot of damage, maybe even smuggle chemical weapons into the US. In the meantime the NK government will be hiding out in protected underground bunkers with ample food and medicine, hoping that they can inflict so much economic and civilian damage that the allies give up and sue for peace. After that happens the NK government reemerges from the bunkers still in charge but with millions of people dead. If all out war breaks out and the allies don’t stop until the NK regime is gone millions will easily die and trillions of dollars in damage will ensue. ---
**Author:** ![lexan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/73ab20/32.png) [@lexan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lexan)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2005, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/workers-paradise-north-korea-and-hunger-what-can-be-done/314274/22 "2005-07-27T20:59:50Z")
> [@Wesley Clark](#): > > Supposedly NK already has alot of sleeper cells in the US, South Korea & Japan. If war breaks out these people will go on a terrorist rampage making 9/11 look like a joke, committing assasinations, bombing and hijackings. I’ve never heard of this before, can you (or anyone) suggest some sources for more information on that? I’m not very knowledgeable about North Korea, but I’d like to learn more. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2005, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/workers-paradise-north-korea-and-hunger-what-can-be-done/314274/23 "2005-07-27T21:12:47Z")
> [@lexan](#): > > I’ve never heard of this before, can you (or anyone) suggest some sources for more information on that? I’m not very knowledgeable about North Korea, but I’d like to learn more. The book I listed ‘rogue regime’ covers these units. here is some info [http://www.gertzfile.com/gertzfile/ring112103.html](http://www.gertzfile.com/gertzfile/ring112103.html) [http://www.specwarnet.com/asia/NKSF.htm](http://www.specwarnet.com/asia/NKSF.htm) [http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi\_m0IBS/is\_4\_30/ai\_n13822276](http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IBS/is_4_30/ai_n13822276) I’m not 100% certain if they’ll become suicide soldiers (suicide bombing is actually pretty ineffective), but I know they are not opposed to dying for the regime. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/workers-paradise-north-korea-and-hunger-what-can-be-done/314274/24 "2005-07-28T01:55:45Z")
I’m having trouble finding info on NK sleeper cells. I can only find info on infiltration of Special forces as a result of war, not pre-existing sleeper cells that just wait for orders. I was under the impression that they have sleeper cells, but maybe that is a bad idea for the north because sleeper cells would spend years being exposed to a free media and may lose morale when they read a book or newspaper in South Korea or Japan and find out what the NK regime is really like. ---
**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2005, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/workers-paradise-north-korea-and-hunger-what-can-be-done/314274/25 "2005-07-28T08:41:26Z")
> [@](#): > > **me** : Use intelligence to appeal to key officers in the NK Army to enact a bloodless coup. > > **smiling bandit** : This is very difficult. Movement in N.K. is very restricted. Undoubtedly so: it is an extraordinarily delicate situation, but every other course of action bar the status quo just seems too risky to me. Perhaps spreading rumours questioning the loyalty of those top brass actually _most_ loyal to KJI would see them removed, leaving him surrounded by those more susceptible to reason and change? Underhand, I know, but disabling the gun is often a preferred option in delicate hostage situations. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/workers-paradise-north-korea-and-hunger-what-can-be-done/314274.md?page=1)