# World Constitution **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 2, 2010, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-constitution/555801 "2010-10-02T01:20:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Susanann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7ab992/32.png) [@Susanann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susanann)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-constitution/555801/101 "2010-10-08T02:24:17Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > **Susanann** , you realize that if a world government comes to power your constitutional right to keep and bear arms will probably disappear because most of the rest of the world doesn’t see it your way. Will you obey the duly elected government? If this right to keep and bear arms isn’t constitutional any more, where does it come from? It comes from our Creator. People from \*\*America \*\*have an unalienable Right to Keep and Bear Arms, that right is endowed to us by our Creator. Nothing can take it away. No man, no law, and no new Constitution can take away our endowed rights. Our current Second Amendment to our Constitution does not “give” us a right to bear arms, we already had the right. Changing our Constitution, or replacing it with any other Constitution, will not change anything and can never take away any of our endowed rights. It does not matter what the rest of the world thinks, people from America will ALWAYS!!! have the rights endowed to us by our Creator. The rest of the world is just gonna have to get used to it and learn to live with it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-constitution/555801/102 "2010-10-08T02:30:42Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > > [@Czarcasm](#): > > > > **Susanann** , you realize that if a world government comes to power your constitutional right to keep and bear arms will probably disappear because most of the rest of the world doesn’t see it your way. Will you obey the duly elected government? If this right to keep and bear arms isn’t constitutional any more, where does it come from? > > It comes from our Creator. > > People from \*\*America \*\*have an unalienable Right to Keep and Bear Arms, that right is endowed to us by our Creator. Nothing can take it away. No man, no law, and no new Constitution can take away our endowed rights. Our current Second Amendment to our Constitution does not “give” us a right to bear arms, we already had the right. Changing our Constitution, or replacing it with any other Constitution, will not change anything and can never take away any of our endowed rights. > > It does not matter what the rest of the world thinks, people from America will ALWAYS!!! have the rights endowed to us by our Creator. > > The rest of the world is just gonna have to get used to it and learn to live with it. I…see. It’s a _God_-given right. As I sit here flipping through the Bible, I’m having a problem finding mention of this god-given right to keep and bear arms. Maybe I’m doing this wrong, though-does anybody happen to recall what the Hebrew word for “semi-automatic” is? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-constitution/555801/103 "2010-10-08T03:07:14Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > > [@Czarcasm](#): > > > > **Susanann** , you realize that if a world government comes to power your constitutional right to keep and bear arms will probably disappear because most of the rest of the world doesn’t see it your way. Will you obey the duly elected government? If this right to keep and bear arms isn’t constitutional any more, where does it come from? > > It comes from our Creator. > > People from \*\*America \*\*have an unalienable Right to Keep and Bear Arms, that right is endowed to us by our Creator. Nothing can take it away. No man, no law, and no new Constitution can take away our endowed rights. Our current Second Amendment to our Constitution does not “give” us a right to bear arms, we already had the right. Changing our Constitution, or replacing it with any other Constitution, will not change anything and can never take away any of our endowed rights. > > It does not matter what the rest of the world thinks, people from America will ALWAYS!!! have the rights endowed to us by our Creator. > > The rest of the world is just gonna have to get used to it and learn to live with it. The Creator has nothing to do with it. What is a right? A right is something you get to keep simply because you or someone else who is protecting you, has the strength and the will to protect it. In the extreme, you have the means and the will to KILL for it. Go to some third world dictatorship, or fascist state and talk about your rights. You might get a good laugh before they kill you. In this country, we say we have rights. We do have rights. We decided to give these rights to ourselves. We were able to, because we were strong enough to make it so, and were literally willing to kill for them. We get to keep them only so long as no one is strong enough to take them away. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-constitution/555801/104 "2010-10-08T03:08:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > > [@Susanann](#): > > > > It comes from our Creator. > > > > People from \*\*America \*\*have an unalienable Right to Keep and Bear Arms, that right is endowed to us by our Creator. Nothing can take it away. No man, no law, and no new Constitution can take away our endowed rights. Our current Second Amendment to our Constitution does not “give” us a right to bear arms, we already had the right. Changing our Constitution, or replacing it with any other Constitution, will not change anything and can never take away any of our endowed rights. > > > > It does not matter what the rest of the world thinks, people from America will ALWAYS!!! have the rights endowed to us by our Creator. > > > > The rest of the world is just gonna have to get used to it and learn to live with it. > > I…see. It’s a _God_-given right. > As I sit here flipping through the Bible, I’m having a problem finding mention of this god-given right to keep and bear arms. Maybe I’m doing this wrong, though-does anybody happen to recall what the Hebrew word for “semi-automatic” is? Uzi 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-constitution/555801/105 "2010-10-08T04:13:39Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > \*\*1. \*\*Guns are not much good if you dont use them. You could have said the same thing about all the guns, tanks, rockets, artillary, etc that the French had that the French did not use. Firstly: The French Tanks were little better than armoured cars. Secondly, they didn’t have (effective) rockets. Effective rocket-weapons are a post-WWII invention, thanks largely to things like the German V-1 and V-2 programmes. Prior to that they were little better than large skyrockets with explosive heads, and generally only effective for fighting Colonial wars against less civilised peoples. Thirdly: The French did fight against the Germans. They didn’t just roll over, despite what pithy one-liners from _The Simpsons_ might lead you to believe. But after the slaughter of WWI- which wiped out an entire generation, you understand- the French realised they couldn’t win and capitulated to avoid a repeat of the horrors of WWI. Not that you care, of course, but it’s an important contextual piece of information for the folks following along all the same. > [@](#): > > \*\*2. \*\* If what you are saying is true, if there were any animosity between different peoples, then obviously, the people are not going to choose a “1” world government and your own premise makes your own statement irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, that if the people choose to have a “1” world government, then there WILL!!! be free movement of peoples all over the earth, massive moves of hundreds of millions of peoples. Scandinavia, England, Ireland, France, Canada, Australia, etc WILL!!! see hundreds of millions of chinese, Indonesians, Haitians, Pakistanis, Indians, Africans, etc moving in. The fact of the matter is that people _won’t_ choose a “One World Government” because the Indians and Chinese don’t want each other freely moving into each other’s countries, your average Australian doesn’t want tens of thousands of people from third-world countries who don’t speak English moving here, your average American doesn’t want half of Mexico moving to their country, your average Saudi probably doesn’t want a lot of non-Muslims settling in their country, and so on. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-constitution/555801/106 "2010-10-08T13:17:54Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > As I sit here flipping through the Bible, I’m having a problem finding mention of this god-given right to keep and bear arms. Well there’s your problem right there, you’ve got the wrong diety. [Zardoz](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOROvO2fxTc&feature=related) tells us the gun is good and to go forth and kill. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-constitution/555801/107 "2010-10-08T15:51:09Z")
> [@Susanann](#): > > People from \*\*America \*\*have an unalienable Right to Keep and Bear Arms, that right is endowed to us by our Creator. Nothing can take it away. Your Creator gave the right to keep and bear arms to Americans, but not to anyone else? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-constitution/555801.md?page=5)