# World Cup 2018

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 7, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615 "2018-06-07T18:09:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/261 "2018-06-16T13:44:24Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Hand was in an unnatural position. That’s a penalty, IMO.

It was close.

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**Author:** ![Art\_Rock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/art_rock/32/525_2.png) [@Art\_Rock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Art_Rock)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/262 "2018-06-16T13:47:52Z")

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A penalty would be harsh - unintentional and using the hand that got hit as support.

A couple of good chances for Iceland near the end of the first half. Interesting game.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/263 "2018-06-16T13:49:18Z")

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Disappointing stuff from Argentina. They don’t seem motivated. Iceland otoh looks fluid and dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/264 "2018-06-16T13:51:07Z")

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> [@Art\_Rock](#):
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> A penalty would be harsh - unintentional and using the hand that got hit as support…

Especially because it deflected off his leg first. But apparently it wouldn’t have been a penalty even if it hit direct, according to the Fox expert.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/265 "2018-06-16T13:52:23Z")

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> [@Art\_Rock](#):
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> A penalty would be harsh - unintentional

They should change the wording of that law. The overwhelming majority of handballs are unintentional. Probably 98-99%.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/266 "2018-06-16T13:54:33Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> It reminds me of 90s football.

Even true for Iceland, though for them it’s 90s football Italian-style. Somewhat parking the bus and then counter-punching.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/267 "2018-06-16T13:59:23Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Even true for Iceland, though for them it’s 90s football Italian-style. Somewhat parking the bus and then counter-punching.

Yeah, but look at Spain - Portugal yesterday. Portugal was parking the bus too, albeit not as much. And Spain’s tempo, movement, and creativity were miles better than what we’re seeing here from Argentina.

Iceland really looks like the more likely team to grab a second even though they’ve possessed the ball for a total of 12 seconds.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/268 "2018-06-16T14:08:38Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Yeah, but look at Spain - Portugal yesterday. Portugal was parking the bus too, albeit not as much. And Spain’s tempo, movement, and creativity were miles better than what we’re seeing here from Argentina.

Yeah, I agree. Argentina’s lucky in that their inability to execute against a packed box is only equaled by Iceland’s reluctance to send more than three players down on the counter.

ETA: no sooner do I type that than ISL is pressing the Argentine defense. The 2nd half is off to a great start!

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/269 "2018-06-16T14:23:35Z")

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Not that there was anyone to hear, but I called Messi to miss that.

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**Author:** ![Art\_Rock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/art_rock/32/525_2.png) [@Art\_Rock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Art_Rock)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/270 "2018-06-16T14:24:03Z")

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It looks like it’s once more not the tournament of Messi.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/271 "2018-06-16T14:28:01Z")

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> [@Art\_Rock](#):
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> It looks like it’s once more not the tournament of Messi.

Still early. Not a convincing penalty though.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/272 "2018-06-16T14:37:19Z")

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Holden a little inconsistent with what he thinks is a penalty. I agree with him this time.

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**Author:** ![Art\_Rock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/art_rock/32/525_2.png) [@Art\_Rock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Art_Rock)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/273 "2018-06-16T14:45:55Z")

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Gary Lineker: Messi misses a penalty and somehow, somewhere, I think Ronaldo may be winking…

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/274 "2018-06-16T14:53:37Z")

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UHH OHH. This is dangerous

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/275 "2018-06-16T14:54:50Z")

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Second best defense of Moscow in the last 75 years.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/276 "2018-06-16T14:55:52Z")

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Iceland with the huge draw. Argentina looking mostly impotent. Messi with a missed penalty. Quite a contrast to yesterday.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/277 "2018-06-16T14:57:52Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Iceland with the huge draw. Argentina looking mostly impotent. Messi with a missed penalty. Quite a contrast to yesterday.

Croatia likely to pay the price on Thursday. If be shocked if Argentina doesn’t jump all over them early and often.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/278 "2018-06-16T15:00:22Z")

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Iceland did exactly what Iceland do and Argentina again look a little toothless in attack. Messi needs more than just Messi.  
Was an interesting game if not a barnstormer. There will be some sore heads in Reykjavik tonight…though maybe not as most of Iceland seems currently to be residing in Russia.

I have visions of confused tourists wandering through a deserted Reykjavik airport, stamping their own passports, getting their own luggage out of the hold, helping themselves to the massive toblerones in the duty-free shop.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/279 "2018-06-16T15:06:32Z")

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Not sure what to think of Denmark v Peru. I hope we get a good match. Wish we could get a time machine and bring back the Laudrops for the game.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/280 "2018-06-16T15:21:14Z")

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Didn’t see any mention of the France 2 Australia 1 morning game (what, you don’t get up at 4-5am?). In a way it paralleled Agentina-Iceland, France was way more skilled and always seemed a step or two quicker, but just didn’t seem to be able to finish well, and Australia stayed composed on defense and kept breaking up French attacks. About 2" made the difference (the amount Drogba’s goal cleared the line by) or we would have had another 1-1 draw. France will take the win, but needs to do better.

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