# World Cup 2018 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 7, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615 "2018-06-07T18:09:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/281 "2018-06-16T15:39:38Z")
> [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](#): > > Didn’t see any mention of the France 2 Australia 1 morning game (what, you don’t get up at 4-5am?). In a way it paralleled Agentina-Iceland, France was way more skilled and always seemed a step or two quicker, but just didn’t seem to be able to finish well, and Australia stayed composed on defense and kept breaking up French attacks. About 2" made the difference (the amount Drogba’s goal cleared the line by) or we would have had another 1-1 draw. France will take the win, but needs to do better. 3am here 🙂 I agree with your analysis. Save Spain and CR7 the finishing in this WC has been shocking. (I didn’t include Russia because SA defense was horrible. We’ll see how the Russians do against the Egyptians Tuesday.) ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/282 "2018-06-16T16:27:17Z")
Man, the announcers on FS1 for Pure-Denmark game the are terrible. I’ve switched to Telemundo. Sure, I don’t understand it, but it’s a lot more fun and I don’t have to try to translate Spanglish. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/283 "2018-06-16T16:37:06Z")
The ambient crowd feed is way louder for this match. Or the crowd is really into this. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/284 "2018-06-16T16:45:06Z")
Is this the NFL or the World Cup? Another replay caused PK. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/285 "2018-06-16T16:46:41Z")
Oh, that should be a card all right. But on Peru for diving. No way that was a penalty. And the taker does his best Rooney impression on the PK. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/286 "2018-06-16T16:46:44Z")
Ohh boy. A bad day for South American PKers. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/287 "2018-06-16T17:54:49Z")
What an exciting match. Peru deserved at least a draw. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/288 "2018-06-16T18:03:58Z")
Just saw a Spanish-language ad from the local Hooters for Mexico-Germany tomorrow morning claiming food specials and an 8 AM opening. Considering the game starts at 9 AM, and you can’t get a drink on Sunday until 11 (so the game will be over), I wonder how many people they’re actually going to get. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/289 "2018-06-16T18:57:20Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Just saw a Spanish-language ad from the local Hooters for Mexico-Germany tomorrow morning claiming food specials and an 8 AM opening. Considering the game starts at 9 AM, and you can’t get a drink on Sunday until 11 (so the game will be over), I wonder how many people they’re actually going to get. I’d go. The atmosphere will be amazing. And sneak some rum to go with that coke 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/290 "2018-06-16T19:52:01Z")
Mexico coach believes they can go toe to toe with the Germans. Mexico can go ‘toe-to-toe’ with Germany - Juan Carlos Osorio [Mexico can go 'toe-to-toe' with Germany - Juan Carlos Osorio](http://www.espnfc.com/mexico/story/3529375/mexico-can-go-toe-to-toe-with-germany-juan-carlos-osorio) via @ESPN App [http://es.pn/app](http://es.pn/app) ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/291 "2018-06-16T21:22:51Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > VAR penalty for France. Not sure why the card was only yellow. Seems like a textbook example of Denial of and Obvious Goal Scoring Opportunity. FIFA and the IFAB have determined (last summer or the summer before, IIRC) that the “double” penalization of penalty kick and red card is too much in such situations. Therefore, they have officially decreed that, when a penalty kick is the required restart, a caution and not a sending off is the preferred result. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/292 "2018-06-16T21:27:09Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > They should change the wording of that law. The overwhelming majority of handballs are unintentional. Probably 98-99%. First of all, the technical term is not “hand ball.” That’s part of why people get so confused about the foul. It’s “handling” the ball, and it has to be “deliberately” done. And, no, the vast majority of cases where the player is called for handling are not “unintentional”. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/293 "2018-06-16T22:10:20Z")
> [@DSYoungEsq](#): > > First of all, the technical term is not “hand ball.” That’s part of why people get so confused about the foul. It’s “handling” the ball, and it has to be “deliberately” done. And, no, the vast majority of cases where the player is called for handling are not “unintentional”. Handling, whatever. 5 internet points for you for needless pedantry. Another 5 points for “deliberate” vs “intentional.” :rolleyes: So, in the majority of handling calls, you think the offender intended to use an arm to control the ball? I just don’t see it. The USSF gives advice on handling that states: “‘Deliberate contact’ means that the player could have avoided the touch but chose not to, that the player’s arms were not in a normal playing position at the time, or that the player deliberately continued an initially accidental contact for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage.” Which is how all the refs call the game and is fine. However, having your arm in a not natural playing position in no way makes touching the ball deliberate and that’s where most of the fouls come in. The natural position of an arm when defending a cross is not behind the back, but that’s what defenders do because penalties are called all the time for unintentional deflections of crosses. The first and third part are relatively rare. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/294 "2018-06-17T15:37:38Z")
Germany vs Mexico, 35 minutes of the first half, after a terrible defensive failure on the part of Germany, Mexico scores! 1-0 Germany almost equalized 3 minutes later; Germany increasing its pressure on Mexico by an order of magnitude. This has become serious! ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/295 "2018-06-17T15:44:09Z")
Germany seems to be playing with the mentality that they are the best and they only need to show up to win. They need to really bare down. And I wish they had Jose now. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/296 "2018-06-17T16:00:12Z")
Waiting for the second half to begin. Germany will have to, as we say in Spain, “put fresh batteries on”. Let’s see how it goes, but Mexico is playing well. I would be surprised if this game ends up in a big upset, but I would feel very happy on behalf of Mexico (even though it would make me lose a bet). ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/297 "2018-06-17T16:02:27Z")
> [@JoseB](#): > > Waiting for the second half to begin. Germany will have to, as we say in Spain, “put fresh batteries on”. > > Let’s see how it goes, but Mexico is playing well. I would be surprised if this game ends up in a big upset, but I would feel very happy on behalf of Mexico (even though it would make me lose a bet). I hate El Tri (they are our rivals) and am a Germany fan but Mexico deserve the lead. I agree with everything else you wrote JoseB. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/298 "2018-06-17T16:09:02Z")
The Germans are getting screwed on the counter attack. They need to cut out the “beautiful” play and try and break through hard. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/299 "2018-06-17T16:13:18Z")
I don’t understand what Germany is doing on their corners. They have a clear size and strength advantage. Cross the freaking ball. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/300 "2018-06-17T16:14:20Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > The Germans are getting screwed on the counter attack. They need to cut out the “beautiful” play and try and break through hard. I couldn’t agree more. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615.md?page=16)