# World Cup 2018

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [June 7, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615 "2018-06-07T18:09:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/421 "2018-06-19T16:48:30Z")

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Poland scores!! Krychowiak hits a nice header into the Senegalese net. Poland have still fight in them. Nice profiting from a defensive mistake on the part of Senegal (not as egregious as the previous one by Poland, though).

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/422 "2018-06-19T16:50:25Z")

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Less than 2 minutes left. Poland has to give its all to scratch at least 1 point here. Poland is attacking hard, and their fans seem re-energized after the previous goal (or, at least, that is how it sounds on Dutch tv!)

4 minutes injury time added to the clock. Let’s see what Poland can do; they are pressing hard!

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/423 "2018-06-19T16:53:30Z")

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The Senegalese aren’t happy to just kill the clock. :0

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/424 "2018-06-19T16:57:07Z")

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And it is over! Victory of Senegal over Poland, 2-1. Another lost bet on my side…! XD

But, really, with such a miserable defense, Poland is lucky not to have ended worse than Brazil in its semifinal in 2014 … 😛 They showed grit and determination in the attack, but they had **howlers** in their defense…

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/425 "2018-06-19T16:58:13Z")

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Next up Egypt v Russia

Lets hope Salah will play

Lets go Egypt!

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**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/426 "2018-06-19T17:17:14Z")

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Again, they-re all just playing the first match, people. It means nothing.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/427 "2018-06-19T17:17:59Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Next up Egypt v Russia
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> Lets hope Salah will play
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> Lets go Egypt!

he’s wonderful to watch, If he gets a sniff in the box he’ll bury it.

In other news, Neymar limps out of training. I don’t know for sure that he was crying like an entitled tosser but I’m imagining so.  
I’m of the opinion that Brazil might be better off learning to play without him anyway.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/428 "2018-06-19T17:19:18Z")

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> [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser](#):
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> Again, they-re all just playing the first match, people. It means nothing.

apart from the Russia - Egypt game of course, that is of major significance regarding qualification.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/429 "2018-06-19T17:20:20Z")

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> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#):
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> he’s wonderful to watch, If he gets a sniff in the box he’ll bury it.
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> In other news, Neymar limps out of training. I don’t know for sure that he was crying like an entitled tosser but I’m imagining so.  
> I’m of the opinion that Brazil might be better off learning to play without him anyway.

He was injured in the second half of the match against Switzerland and it looked like his foot.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/430 "2018-06-19T18:01:27Z")

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Russia - Egypt about to begin, and Mohammed Salah is going to play. Hope he is really fully recovered from his injury, and that they are not making him play out of “desperation” in search of points for his team.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/431 "2018-06-19T18:06:45Z")

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Really hoping for Brazil-Germany in the Round of 16. Might be the best non-Final game of the tournament.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/432 "2018-06-19T18:20:41Z")

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> [@JoseB](#):
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> Poland is quite the attacker, but they have been pitiful in defense. The first Senegal goal was actually an own goal on the part of Poland, and the second was INSANE… The whole squad of Poland was attacking, way out of their own field… up to and including the Polish goalie. But Poland lost the ball, it ended at the feet of Senegal’s Nina, and he ran like hell, towards a Polish goal and defensive area that were **completely empty** (!!!). He just had to push the ball into a completely empty goal!! I have not seen something like that at this level of football in my life. This must be really demoralizing for the Polish side.

I think the Polish goalkeeper was trying to “Neuer” the ball by coming so far out of his place. Unfortunately, Neuer-ing is highly risky and it backfires if not done properly.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/433 "2018-06-19T19:17:38Z")

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Barring a furious comeback, Russia is advancing. Sigh.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/434 "2018-06-19T19:21:07Z")

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(Sorry, RL intervened and I missed the 1st half of the game)

Russia 3 - Egypt 0.

The first, towards the end of the 1st half, was an own goal by Egypt. The second has been a beautiful cross by Cheryshev (the guy plays in Spain ^.^). The third, a few minutes after the second, came on the counter-attack, courtesy of Dzuba, and I think that Egypt is basically done for at this point.

How many own goals have there been in this World Cup so far? Quite a few (two of them today…), I think there have been… five so far? Have there ever been that many own goals in a championship like this before?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/435 "2018-06-19T19:22:26Z")

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> [@Cumbrian](#):
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> When England have players of comparable quality to peak era Xavi and Iniesta supplying the bullets, maybe we can start trying to ape that Spain side. Until then, I’d prefer we play a system that suits our players rather than porting in concepts from other successful teams and then wondering why it doesn’t work, when the answer is that we don’t have the players to maximise this. I think DSYoung’s point is well taken actually - playing Vardy and Kane together doesn’t look likely to work. Vardy seems much more like the replacement, should Kane get injured, as Rashford is more likely to do the type of work that Okazaki does for Leicester that will open up space for Vardy (assuming of course that Rashford starts playing more instead of Sterling)
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> Incidentally, I think this is fine! Not every player in a squad should be in the starting line up - some need to be there for the other eventualities - and this seems like Vardy’s role; Delph strikes me as another one of those sorts of players in England’s squad.

Thats 1990’s England Test team level of selection logic. We have a system? Come on, guy has scored 20 plus goals in 2 of the last 3 seasons, you bloody well play him. You fit him in. Man with his speed will terrify CB’s, imagine Vardy playing yesterday, the Tunisians would have had to mark him all night, leaving Kane alone, unlike the actual game where Kane basically wore Ben Youssaf all match long and was lucky to get both goals.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/436 "2018-06-19T19:22:33Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Barring a furious comeback, Russia is advancing. Sigh.

Well, that or Saudi Arabia beating Egypt and Uruguay, and Uruguay beating Russia like 10-0.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/437 "2018-06-19T19:22:44Z")

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Russians on an 8-0 tear through the World Cup, who’d have thought?

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/438 "2018-06-19T19:27:21Z")

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> [@Rysto](#):
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> Well, that or Saudi Arabia beating Egypt and Uruguay, and Uruguay beating Russia like 10-0.

If that happens then there really must be an Allah.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/439 "2018-06-19T19:28:22Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Russians on an 8-0 tear through the World Cup, who’d have thought?

Not so impressive when we consider opposition.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/440 "2018-06-19T19:30:26Z")

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Egypt is pressing with energy, but unfortunately they seem chaotic and disorganized. Perhaps they are feeling prey to panic.

Mo Salah is really good, but I am afraid that the rest of his teammates are not at his height, and thus bereft of support he cannot shine.

Although! Egypt is given a penalty after Salah is fouled in the penalty area; Salah takes it and he scores! Russia 3-Egypt 1.

> [@Velocity](#):
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> Russians on an 8-0 tear through the World Cup, who’d have thought?

They were in a relatively “easy” group, with perennial whipping boys Saudi Arabia and relatively untested Egypt.

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