# World Cup 2018 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [June 7, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615 "2018-06-07T18:09:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Kimble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimble/32/19185_2.png) [@Kimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimble)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/481 "2018-06-21T02:06:05Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > Who wins the group if Spain and Portugal both win the next game by the same score? [The next tiebreaker](https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/tie-breakers-for-russia-2018-groups) would be “greater number of points obtained regarding fair play conduct.” Assuming Wikipedia’s match reports are correct, Spain currently leads minus-1 (yellow by Sergio Busquets) to minus-2 (yellows by Bruno Fernandes and Adrien Silva). Scoring: [ul] [li]yellow card = -1[/li][li]two yellow cards (i.e., an indirect red card) = -3 total (don’t double-count the first yellow card)[/li][li]direct red card = -4[/li][li]yellow card and direct red = -5 total (again, don’t double-count)[/li][/ul] After that, it’s random. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/482 "2018-06-21T02:09:14Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > The Egyptian never refereed again since he had reached FIFA retirement age (45). I guess age discrimination is pretty far down on the list of FIFA misdeeds. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/483 "2018-06-21T02:15:46Z")
> [@Kimble](#): > > [The next tiebreaker](https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/tie-breakers-for-russia-2018-groups) would be “greater number of points obtained regarding fair play conduct.” Assuming Wikipedia’s match reports are correct, Spain currently leads minus-1 (yellow by Sergio Busquets) to minus-2 (yellows by Bruno Fernandes and Adrien Silva). Scoring: > [ul] > [li]yellow card = -1[/li][li]two yellow cards (i.e., an indirect red card) = -3 total (don’t double-count the first yellow card)[/li][li]direct red card = -4[/li][li]yellow card and direct red = -5 total (again, don’t double-count)[/li][/ul] > After that, it’s random. Thanks. They’ll know who won Group A, but I’m not even sure who is better to play. Uruguay is better on paper but Russia could be destined (by hook or crook) ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/484 "2018-06-21T04:35:37Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#): > > I guess age discrimination is pretty far down on the list of FIFA misdeeds. Age discrimination is used as a proxy for fitness levels. The assumption is that referees past a certain age simply would not be able to keep up with the play. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/485 "2018-06-21T12:41:50Z")
Denmark - Australia is turning into a fascinating contest. Pretty even and now it is even on score as well. Penalty given by VAR, perhaps harsh but if your arm is up in the air, in a very unnatural position and it deflects a shot towards goal then it is always going to risk being given against you. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/486 "2018-06-21T13:08:50Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Denmark - Australia is turning into a fascinating contest. Pretty even and now it is even on score as well. > > Penalty given by VAR, perhaps harsh but if your arm is up in the air, in a very unnatural position and it deflects a shot towards goal then it is always going to risk being given against you. I agree. Australia deserved a draw against France. It would be harsh if they were eliminated via loss in the next 40 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/487 "2018-06-21T13:14:40Z")
Awesome [recreation of Neymar’s hair](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/A5C1/production/_102133424_mediaitem102133423.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/488 "2018-06-21T13:35:00Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > Awesome [recreation of Neymar’s hair](https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/A5C1/production/_102133424_mediaitem102133423.jpg). Nothing gets pasta you. :slinksaway: ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/489 "2018-06-21T18:22:08Z")
Too many mental mistakes by the Argies. Its not hard to see them losing this match. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/490 "2018-06-21T19:16:19Z")
_blinks_ _blinks again_ WTF Caballero? ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/491 "2018-06-21T19:18:42Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > _blinks_ _blinks again_ WTF Caballero? Love Maradona biting his nails like he just finished off an eight ball and a bottle of tequila. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/492 "2018-06-21T19:27:20Z")
Man, Argentina’s shaky World Cup qualification was no fluke. This really looks like a team that doesn’t deserve to be in the tournament at all. The Messi hat trick against Ecuador only postponed their elimination by nine months, so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/493 "2018-06-21T19:35:39Z")
Just got back from a lot of work and stuff… and I switch on the TV… and Croatia 1-Argentina 0?!? Whoa. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/494 "2018-06-21T19:40:30Z")
And now 2-0 for Croatia!!! Modric attacks and scores in what looks like a nice set piece, volleying the ball beautifully among a throng of defenders and past the goalie… This Argentina is definitely miles below the one from 4 years ago… And it is costing me, so far, YET another bet! XD ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/495 "2018-06-21T19:41:41Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Love Maradona biting his nails like he just finished off an eight ball and a bottle of tequila. Back on his old training regimen, then. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/496 "2018-06-21T19:46:44Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Back on his old training regimen, then. 😃 Right now Argentina looks like 50 year old Maradona. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/497 "2018-06-21T19:48:26Z")
What a wreck. Even beating Nigeria probably won’t send Argentina through now. Why did Messi miss that PK earlier against Iceland, why why why. ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/498 "2018-06-21T19:50:31Z")
And now 3-0!!! And a beautiful goal to boot! In injury time as well… My god! Argentina is collapsing!!! I was not expecting this. Not at all. Argentina is not playing at World Cup level right now. Can it be said…? Have they… choked? ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/499 "2018-06-21T19:50:44Z")
This is hilarious. Brilliant second goal, 3-0 is very much a fair reflection. Argentina have been woeful (which must be said in an Alan Hansen voice) ---
**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615/500 "2018-06-21T19:53:57Z")
The final whistle has been blown, and it is over. Argentina will need a “bona fide” miracle to go through to the round of 16… and maybe not even then; I have to check the numbers. Goodness gracious me, this World Cup _is_ the championship of surprises…!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2018/815615.md?page=26)