# World Cup 2022 - discussion, predictions, and thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\ **Created:** [November 6, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476 "2022-11-06T20:37:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/181 "2022-11-21T21:26:37Z")
That’s a point I also have always been confused about, what is “extra time” and what is “overtime”? In German, the extra 30 minutes added after a draw in a knock-out game is called “Verlängerung”, literally “extension” or “prolonging”. The time that is added to compensate for injury or VAR breaks is called “Nachspielzeit”, literally “post game time”. Which is which in English football lingo? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/182 "2022-11-21T21:28:28Z")
Usually “added time” is the 90 + X and overtime is the extra periods in the knock out rounds. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/183 "2022-11-21T21:28:57Z")
_Stoppage time i_s the one I’m familiar with…. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/184 "2022-11-21T21:29:07Z")
Extra time is the extra 30 minutes added to cup games. Injury time is the added time at the end of the half to account for events, despite its name not just injuries. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/185 "2022-11-21T21:30:15Z")
I think that second one is now called stoppage time. Sorry for getting the lingo wrong above. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/186 "2022-11-21T21:30:52Z")
Yeah, stoppage time is the least confusing. THat’s right. Says right in the name. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/187 "2022-11-21T21:30:52Z")
So extra time and overtime are synonymous, both meaning the 30 minutes added to a knock-out game? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/188 "2022-11-21T21:33:50Z")
Does anyone know for how long Peacock in the USA will stream the matches live? I’m delaying paying the monthly fee until I have to so I’ll have a bit of Peacock subscription after the world cup is over. Just this week or into next week? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/189 "2022-11-21T21:34:54Z")
I read them as synonymous. I guess some purists might only recognize whatever the laws of the game say. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/190 "2022-11-21T21:35:59Z")
I read that Peacock is streaming the Spanish Language broadcast, so for the duration of the tournament. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/191 "2022-11-21T21:46:52Z")
Extra time is the British English term; American English tends to go with overtime (borrowing from our non-association football). Both mean the 30-minute added tiebreaker. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/192 "2022-11-21T21:51:48Z")
In Spanish we say _tiempo añadido_ (added time) or _prolongación_ (obvious) for the 90 minutes plus. The 15 + 15 minutes extra time (?) are called _ **prórroga** _, and those 15 + 15 can have additional _tiempo añadido_ or _prolongación_ minutes as well. It is nice to have a word for those 15 + 15 minutes that is not used in any other context, except, of course, other sports, so there is no confusion. Because it seems the English notation is confusing. I mean, if I don’t watch the games, I must say something about whatever, right? So the game that was to decide, by common wisdom, the second place in this group, because the first will go to England, has finished in a draw. That leaves everything in the air, but if my maths are correct 4 out of 6 third placed teams will qualify as well for the last 16, so both USA and Wales could qualify without beating England if they beat Iran hard enough. The USA vs Iran comes up remarcably often in the World Cups, btw., does it not? > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > So extra time and overtime are synonymous Extrazeit und Überzeit? Aw, come on, gimme a break. [Extrabreit](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrabreit) is more like it. Cheap joke, I know. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/193 "2022-11-21T21:53:30Z")
Thanks to all! It took me five years on this board to start posting in football threads, because though I’m quite good at English, football lingo is another beast I didn’t learn in school. I learned it by following the threads, but I’m still not very competent, because football has so many terms. And then they often differ in American and British English. What is an “Abstauber”? What’s a “Kerze”? Or a “Blutgrätsche”? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/194 "2022-11-21T21:54:20Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > That leaves everything in the air, but if my maths are correct 4 out of 6 third placed teams will qualify as well for the last 16, so both USA and Wales could qualify without beating England if they beat Iran hard enough No, only the top 2 advance. There are 8 groups. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/195 "2022-11-21T21:56:19Z")
Oh! I missed two goups! Sorry, I take everything back. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/196 "2022-11-21T21:58:49Z")
Yeah, no problem. Euros tend to have the 3rd place team advance. Somewhat weird there’s not a more standard format, but all the confederations have different # of teams. But yeah, most likely ways forward are either 1) draw against England + beat Iran or 2) both teams lose to England and go for better GD. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/197 "2022-11-21T22:06:20Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > What is an “Abstauber”? A tap in or a sitter. But both are not perfect translations, they are not a perfect semantical overlap. A tap in is closer, a sitter is often used with the words “he missed a”, with some agony added in the voice with some pulling of hair. You cannot say in German that somebody missed an Abstaubertor (well, you could, but people don’t, do they?). > [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > What a “Kerze”? An up and under (borrowed from rugby). ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/198 "2022-11-21T22:07:32Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Oh! I missed two goups! Sorry, I take everything back. Maybe you already thought of the next WC in 2026, which will have 48 participants so that eight 3rd places must qualify for the knock-outs. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/199 "2022-11-21T22:12:14Z")
Thanks, @Pardel-Lux . Watch out that I don’t come back at you to write my German-English football dictionary. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/200 "2022-11-21T22:14:13Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I read that Peacock is streaming the Spanish Language broadcast, so for the duration of the tournament. No, but thank you for motivating me to be less lazy and dig it up. I just read this: > [@](#): > > All 64 World Cup matches will be [available to stream in Spanish on Peacock](https://www.peacocktv.com/watch/copa-mundial-de-la-fifa-catar-2022?groupParent=a441afb6-9d29-11eb-9e6d-4bd7501a3c22). The first four days of games will be streaming for free on Peacock, but beginning on Thursday, November 24, you’ll need a [Peacock Premium or Premium Plus subscription to watch the remaining games](https://www.peacocktv.com/help/article/copa-mundial). So Thursday or Friday, you gotta pay $5 to get the month free. > **[World Cup 2022 Peacock Streaming Options: Can You Watch The World Cup On...](https://decider.com/2022/11/20/watch-world-cup-on-peacock-spanish-english-world-cup-2022-streaming-peacock-free/)** > > All 64 World Cup matches will be available to stream in Spanish on Peacock. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476.md?page=11)