# World Cup 2022 - discussion, predictions, and thoughts

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\
**Created:** [November 6, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476 "2022-11-06T20:37:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/401 "2022-11-24T17:52:51Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> A soft one sure but Ronaldo got to the ball first.

Doesn’t matter who was first if the defender also plays the ball. No penalty.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/402 "2022-11-24T17:59:32Z")

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That would have been an amazing ending if Ghana tied it on trickery like that.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/403 "2022-11-24T18:01:40Z")

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“Trickery”?

A goalkeeper forgetting an opponent like that is a huge blunder. Hardly trickery.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/404 "2022-11-24T18:02:30Z")

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Huh? It’s clearly both.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/405 "2022-11-24T18:20:43Z")

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Stupid Thanksgiving interrupting my World Cup watching. 🫤

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/406 "2022-11-24T18:40:47Z")

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Love Brazil, hate Neymar.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/407 "2022-11-24T19:54:33Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Kudos to the German team’s protest photo. Well done.
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> I hope other teams come up with their own version.

Indeed. Sickening of FIFA to threaten them like that.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/408 "2022-11-24T20:00:56Z")

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We have to win the 2 matches or pray for a miracle (I guess all tied with 4 points and the two that classify decided by goals, results between them an so fort), not very likely.  
We are more or less in the same situation than you, our old nemesis, let’s hope we both rebound from this but only met each other in the final, if at all.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/409 "2022-11-25T02:05:50Z")

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If Argentina gets out of their division, and I think they will, no harm has really been done. Yes, they had some offside goals which suggests they could be more disciplined. But it isn’t like they didn’t create good opportunities and get the ball in the net (compare Canada for an interesting contrast). They did recently win the Copa America. And they have an awful lot of incentive to win now.

Although 538 only gave them a 58% chance of advancing, the Vegas odds did not change much for them to win the Cup, only about from +750 to +900. I’m curious about this.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/410 "2022-11-25T03:23:25Z")

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They’re more likely to finish 2nd now and therefore more likely to play a strong team in the next round, that’s real damage to their chances.

I still think Argentina will win their remaining 2 games, Saudi will lose both and the final standing will be:  
Argentina - 6  
Mexico - 4  
Poland - 4  
Saudi Arabia -3

I thought Germany would bounce back and get out of their group last time too though.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/411 "2022-11-25T03:33:45Z")

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There’s an interesting article in The Atlantic saying the soccer balls have an advanced sensor which allows for much more accurate offside calls along with much other data. I wonder if this was a factor for Argentina, but kind of doubt it.

I have been a provincial level soccer referee for many years, though not for a long time. Offside is not usually a difficult call among knowledgeable people; that alone is a huge portion of the linespersons job. I don’t have a problem with automation. There have been a lot of articles essentially saying let the players play and let close offsides slide. I don’t agree with that. In fact, I think the articles are a little ignorant. The difference between offside and offside position is not that hard a concept.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/412 "2022-11-25T11:21:30Z")

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Wales v Iran.

Wales are living on the edge somewhat. Iran breaking really well but just no clinical finishes. They had the ball in the net but definitely offside.

This is set up perfectly for Wales to snatch it in the 98th minute

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/413 "2022-11-25T11:47:12Z")

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Well that just took a dramatic turn!

And now, Hennessy out against England as well….

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/414 "2022-11-25T11:47:41Z")

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The Welsh keeper with a Schuhmacher remembrance foul. WIth the difference that it means red this time.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/415 "2022-11-25T11:53:39Z")

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As an American, I think I’m content if this just stays tied….

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/416 "2022-11-25T11:56:29Z")

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The scoreline would suit you but Iran’s performance is enough to give one pause for thought.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/417 "2022-11-25T11:58:59Z")

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1-0 Iran. Totally deserved.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/418 "2022-11-25T12:00:51Z")

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Boom! great strike and yes, totally deserved.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/419 "2022-11-25T12:04:15Z")

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It certainly is.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2022, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/420 "2022-11-25T12:22:36Z")

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Iran are doing fine as well.

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