# World Cup 2022 - discussion, predictions, and thoughts

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\
**Created:** [November 6, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476 "2022-11-06T20:37:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/501 "2022-11-26T19:03:38Z")

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Eh, this is the weakest Mexico team in 20+ years. I’d rather play them than Denmark.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/502 "2022-11-26T19:06:02Z")

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Knives out.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/503 "2022-11-26T19:18:23Z")

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Both sides faking blows to the head already.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/504 "2022-11-26T19:21:07Z")

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The ref is having none of it. Laughing as he goes:)

Both sides are looking strong, I wonder if Mexico can keep up their intensity.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/505 "2022-11-26T19:22:42Z")

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Well, he gave the foul to Mexico on the fake against Lautaro.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/506 "2022-11-26T19:33:45Z")

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Pretty chippy game. Either it gets chippier or we get some cards and this opens up a bit, I think.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/507 "2022-11-26T19:54:32Z")

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1st half was pretty entertaining: 23 guys giving their all. First game this tournament (that I watched) were everybody is really going for it.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/508 "2022-11-26T19:56:55Z")

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Hmm. A draw isn’t the end of the world for either team, even though, obviously, a win is much better.

If they draw Argentina will need a 2+ goal win vs Poland (or a 1-goal win and Saudi tie) which isn’t super unlikely. And Mexico would need any win against Saudi Arabia, which also isn’t super unlikely.

I wonder if the second half will be really intense or if both teams will prefer to just need the win in their final game.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/509 "2022-11-26T20:04:42Z")

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When they draw, it is no longer in their own hands. Then their continued participation is depending on what happens on the other field.

It looked like 2 teams determined to win.

Mexico is determined to prevent the ball reaching Messi. So far they’ve been quite successful.  
Argentina isn’t really capitalizing on the same vulnerability: Mexico also doesn’t look good when Argentina fore-checking aggressively.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/510 "2022-11-26T20:08:06Z")

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If they draw it is still in both their hands, as I outlined in my post. And if pushing hard for a late goal means they’re more likely to give up a goal on the counter and get eliminated now, it’s a legit question.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/511 "2022-11-26T20:15:33Z")

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Argentina are not pushing hard enough, though they are hanging on a thread. They shouldn’t count on a win against Poland, this will not be an easy win at all for them, so they should look to gain points in this game. Mexico of course speculating for that one chance on the counter attack.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/512 "2022-11-26T20:18:27Z")

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They need a win against Poland even if they win today. A win today only means a 1 goal win gets them through.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/513 "2022-11-26T20:26:47Z")

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I think Messi likes this better 😉

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/514 "2022-11-26T20:27:37Z")

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Messi doing Messi things.

And sorry, with a Argentina win they can get through with a draw if Saudi also draws or with a small Mexico victory.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/515 "2022-11-26T20:41:52Z")

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At this rate, Mexico isn’t even going to get a chance to _extend_ its Round-of-16 bad luck streak.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/516 "2022-11-26T20:44:08Z")

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If this stands, Mexico can still advance if Poland beat Argentina in the last match, but that’s obviously pretty dicey.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/517 "2022-11-26T20:45:49Z")

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An open group for sure, if this Argentinian win stands.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/518 "2022-11-26T20:46:50Z")

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Wow, DePaul just completely screws up a 4v2 to ice this game. Just a donkey touch.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/519 "2022-11-26T20:48:23Z")

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Well, there’s the ice. Mexico just too worn down to close and a nice far post shot after the short corner.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/520 "2022-11-26T20:51:18Z")

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No televised World Cup win is complete without pictures of disconsolate fans for the other team.

Ian Darke: “The little boy is crying!”

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