# World Cup 2022 - discussion, predictions, and thoughts

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\
**Created:** [November 6, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476 "2022-11-06T20:37:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1221 "2022-12-05T21:36:05Z")

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In cricket we say, don’t offend the woofing gods.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1222 "2022-12-05T21:38:18Z")

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I need to learn cricket since I and about half the population of Argentina have suddenly decided to be fans of the Bangladesh national cricket team (we defeated India yesterday by one wicket! (whatever that is) )

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1223 "2022-12-05T21:41:09Z")

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See, I’m happy to watch suffer your boring little game where 4-1 is a high scoring match. But please don’t start on the glorious game.

We just had a match where almost 1800 runs were scored. Eighteen hundred!

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1224 "2022-12-05T21:43:19Z")

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I wasn’t dissing Cricket man!, we are truly trying to learn because people in Bangladesh have shown so much support for our football team that we decided to reciprocate.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1225 "2022-12-06T00:35:25Z")

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The Japanese played a great game. Their positioning is very good and they can turn on a quick surge which effectively presses its opponents. They seemed rattled by the penalty kicks, unfortunately.

I hadn’t seen Korea play yet. Brazil with Neymar is better than Brazil without. It wasn’t a close or entertaining game, sadly, to take nothing away from South Korea. I know why the penalty kick was called, but there was no intent in my opinion and it was a rare weak decision from mostly very good officiating.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1226 "2022-12-06T02:17:44Z")

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That penalty is one of the reasons I would support the ability for a ref to declare a foul in the box a direct free kick if it isn’t a goal scoring opportunity. Richarlison was heading away from goal with that touch and the foul in no way stopped a scoring chance.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1227 "2022-12-06T02:58:24Z")

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Loved this article about a guy who can identify where a team comes from by how they take their corner kicks.

> **[Can You Tell a Country by Its Corner Kicks?](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/05/sports/world-cup/corner-kicks-world-cup.html)**
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> Soccer may be a global game, but one area remains proudly, defiantly local.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1228 "2022-12-06T14:20:11Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Will Flick survive?

> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> I don’t think he will, even if his DFB bosses want to hold on to him, which isn’t yet clear. There’s a crisis meeting scheduled for next week with Flick, sports director Olliver Bierhoff (who will have to fight for his job himself) and DFB president Bernd Neuendorf and his vice president, BVB president Horst Watzke. I think until then, the pressure from fans and the press will grow so huge that there’ll be nor alternative to fire both Flick and Bierhoff.

Well, Bierhoff is already gone, he quit yesterday on his own because the public pressure became overwhelming. Now there’s speculation about Flick following him, because he was very close to Bierhoff. Maybe his decision depends on who will be Bierhoff’s successor.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1229 "2022-12-06T15:31:25Z")

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I’m not sure what’s going on with my YouTubeTV account but I’m only getting the early games on Telemundo. Spain v Morocco only there right now. Eff it, signing up for Fox 4k - I know they have them all. It’s kind of a rip-off though. $10 a month for a year and then it doubles. I read the fine print. Free week, however; let’s hope I remember to cancel it.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1230 "2022-12-06T15:49:45Z")

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Very good Moroccan performance in the first half. They almost totally neutralized the Spanish offense and clearly had the better chances. Of course Spain had their usual 66 % or so possession, but not a single good chance.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1231 "2022-12-06T16:23:04Z")

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Sit deep against Spain and let them pass it in front of you seems to be the best tactic to beat them. But you do feel Morocco need to score because I can see Spain getting a few big chances later in this game.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1232 "2022-12-06T16:46:34Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Sit deep against Spain and let them pass it in front of you seems to be the best tactic to beat them.

True, but sadly that makes for a not very attractive game. In the second half, Morocco rarely managed to put in some offensive pressure, but kept on neutralizing Spain, so it’s no wonder there are still no goals and overtime becomes more and more probable. Which wouldn’t look any different, I predict.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1233 "2022-12-06T16:54:39Z")

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No but it’s not Morocco’s job to entertain, they are fighting to stay in the competition. And these sort of games are super tense which has its own entertainment qualities I suppose.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1234 "2022-12-06T16:58:16Z")

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I agree.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1235 "2022-12-06T16:58:36Z")

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As the saying goes “If you want entertaiment go to the theater, this is futbol”

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1236 "2022-12-06T17:04:31Z")

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The German expression is “Das soll keinen Spaß machen”, “this isn’t supposed to be fun”.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1237 "2022-12-06T17:07:25Z")

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Heh, I like that. There’s nothing more tense than this scenario in a World Cup.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1238 "2022-12-06T17:07:29Z")

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We have others that are filthier, like “If they want shine they can shine my…”

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1239 "2022-12-06T17:11:40Z")

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I cannot think of an equivalent English expression, I think we _expect_ it to be painful. After all, you wouldn’t invent a witty phrase for the pain that comes with getting a tooth extracted.

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**Author:** ![Jaycat.again](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jaycat.again/32/11525_2.png) [@Jaycat.again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaycat.again)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1240 "2022-12-06T17:25:25Z")

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What is that damned hissing noise in the background? I thought it was my radiators at first.

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