# World Cup 2022 - discussion, predictions, and thoughts

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\
**Created:** [November 6, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476 "2022-11-06T20:37:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1661 "2022-12-10T21:07:19Z")

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I don’t think so, there’ll be a lot of love for him rather than any great antipathy.

I think overall England edged it on the night but not by enough to influence the scoreline, such is football.

I’m still happy that we are able to go toe-to-toe with the very best. If we continue to play like that and compete like that we’ll get to the pointy end of tournaments. Then who knows what might happen.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1662 "2022-12-10T21:09:22Z")

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I doubt it. I’d be happy for him to continue. he’s consistently got us performing in major tournaments.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1663 "2022-12-10T21:14:14Z")

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Southgate has done fine, I agree - but, and you’re closer to this than I am- does it feel like he’s under a constant barrage of criticism when they don’t win everything?

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**Author:** ![FurloeRoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@FurloeRoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FurloeRoth)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1664 "2022-12-10T21:20:14Z")

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Nope. We never win anything. Southgate has come far closer than other managers unless you go back to ancient history.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1665 "2022-12-10T21:22:28Z")

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By the way, Jordan Pickford seems to have adopted the Manual Neuer style of screaming like a child on a tantrum after every save he makes. I prefer the calm, cool style of a Buffon or Casillas for GK’s.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1666 "2022-12-10T21:25:31Z")

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Operation Jinx France is now ongoing.

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**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1667 "2022-12-10T21:26:13Z")

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Is this the best set of quarter finals in World Cup history? Each game was thrilling right till the end. In terms of the semi-final lineup a nice mix of traditional powers along with one of the great underdog runs by Morocco.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1668 "2022-12-10T21:27:09Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Southgate has done fine, I agree - but, and you’re closer to this than I am- does it feel like he’s under a constant barrage of criticism when they don’t win everything?

not really. For the last three major tournaments he has had in charge we’ve…

a) consistently entertained (a novelty in itself)  
b) reached a semi final, a final, and then out in the quarters to a world champion team that we went toe-to-toe with.

I think the country is happy to keep doing that in the hope that a trophy may follow. He is certainly getting us closer than other managers have.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1669 "2022-12-10T21:45:47Z")

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¿Velas negras, muñequitos de vudú, maldiciones gitanas a mansalva? 😉

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1670 "2022-12-10T21:54:04Z")

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> [@Lantern2](#):
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> Is this the best set of quarter finals in World Cup history? Each game was thrilling right till the end. In terms of the semi-final lineup a nice mix of traditional powers along with one of the great underdog runs by Morocco.

These were great quarterfinals!

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1671 "2022-12-10T21:58:09Z")

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Worse, enthusiastically predicting they are going to win the World Cup.  
The candles, vudu, and the rest are currently focused in Croatia, including our worst weapon, pictures of Croatias’ president and/or players with our recent ex-president who’s widely considered to be “mufa”.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1672 "2022-12-10T21:58:24Z")

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I will just wish them luck. Don’t know whether it works when you don’t really mean it at all, but I’ll do it.  
But **Frodo** , don’t underestimate the Morrocans!

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1673 "2022-12-10T22:01:29Z")

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German TV showed Mbappé’s glee when Kane missed his second penalty kick. Disgusting. I hope he jynx’d himself with that.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1674 "2022-12-10T22:07:06Z")

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Every WC final since 1982 has had both a Bayern player and an Inter Milan player, and because of the semi match-ups that will be automatically true again this year.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1675 "2022-12-10T22:13:25Z")

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My god, the photo of the president… that goes against the Geneva conventions!

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1676 "2022-12-10T22:14:05Z")

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You’ll notice that I carefully avoided naming him…

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1677 "2022-12-10T22:25:51Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> German TV showed Mbappé’s glee when Kane missed his second penalty kick. Disgusting. I hope he jynx’d himself with that.

As opposed to hoping he made it?

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1678 "2022-12-10T22:31:11Z")

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It’s a matter off [style](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0vot8nvmTk), isn’t it? Mocking the rival is bad manners and jynxes follow. Maybe.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1679 "2022-12-10T22:43:49Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Mocking the rival is bad manners

Was he mocking him though? Was he in his face? Couldn’t tell from the clip.

Look, his opponent just missed a potential game-tying PK in a World Cup quarterfinal with just minutes to play. Who wouldn’t be screaming for joy?

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**Author:** ![Precambrianmollusc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/precambrianmollusc/32/63_2.png) [@Precambrianmollusc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Precambrianmollusc)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1680 "2022-12-11T00:42:40Z")

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I wouldn’t read anything into what his emotions / intentions were based on a short clip ( and slowed down I think) of a facial expression . I am pretty sure you can pick out similar clips of facial expressions from England players when the first went in , I wouldn’t think that reflects on them other then they were happy.  
I’d be pretty ecstatic if I was French and I am English

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