# World Cup 2022 - discussion, predictions, and thoughts

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\
**Created:** [November 6, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476 "2022-11-06T20:37:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1742 "2022-12-14T01:45:29Z")

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I used to call them all kind of ugly things, but something strange happened as I got older, I cannot get so angry with them, I feel for them, if they miss a penalty I suffer for them, if they lose a ball I think of how they must feel. It used to be that they were older than me, then they were the same age, now they are kids, kids who are there putting everything on the line to make this shitty year less shitty, I cannot get angry with them, It would be like getting angry with my son.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1743 "2022-12-14T01:51:15Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Get well soon

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1744 "2022-12-14T03:00:50Z")

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If Messi wins the final against France, he should promptly retire from everything, including club football. End his career by going out on the highest of notes.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1745 "2022-12-14T03:09:00Z")

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Makes me wish there were a “like” button to upvote posts like this one.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1746 "2022-12-14T03:25:02Z")

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2010 Messi had a bad World Cup.  
2014 they were walking wounded. Di Maria was out with injury in the later stages, Mascherano and Auguero played the final injured.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1747 "2022-12-14T03:40:32Z")

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There’s also a component of luck in futbol, sometimes the ball just doesn’t go in.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1748 "2022-12-14T05:25:37Z")

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And or Higuain shits the bed.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1749 "2022-12-14T06:25:52Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> I saw an Argentina player make a rough and illegal tackle

After that tackle the Argentinian handballer shot the ball into the Dutch bench with all he had.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1750 "2022-12-14T06:35:47Z")

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That 2014 final was maddening to watch, and I’m not even Argentine.

Higuain could have scored twice, Palacio could have scored once.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1751 "2022-12-14T12:54:51Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Palacio could have scored once

To this day “Era por abajo Palacio” (“you should’ve played it low Palacio”) it’s a byword in Argentina.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1752 "2022-12-14T13:32:44Z")

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They finished third in 2002 after knocking off the Germans in the QF round.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1753 "2022-12-14T13:44:56Z")

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Correction: that was in 1998.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1754 "2022-12-14T14:56:55Z")

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> [@Frodo](#):
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> Era por abajo Palacio

Who would you be more comfortable with in the final? Obviously France is the favourite but that Moroccan defence is ruthless.

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**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1755 "2022-12-14T15:00:36Z")

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With a hand on my heart, beyond al posturing (“Let the better team face us” and the like) I would prefer Morocco, this France team is the boogeyman of this world cup.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1756 "2022-12-14T16:52:29Z")

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This is true. It was worth a red card, to say the least. And the ref would have had more control of the game had he handed out one earlier. I don’t think he did a great job - he missed some important things - if the ref didn’t see that play, and he should have, where was the linesman? But most referees would have found this game difficult to officiate. And I tend to sympathize with referees.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1757 "2022-12-14T16:56:47Z")

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Morocco have beaten Belgium, Spain and Portugal. Canadians were nonplussed by what was perceived as lacklustre performance, but in retrospect it was easily the toughest division.

The French have two explosive forwards but only the Canadians cracked Morocco’s defence. Our technique was to bore them by starting broad-based, multilateral discussions on the role of federal-provincial relations in multicultural negotiations until they cracked.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1758 "2022-12-14T17:20:27Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> His brother is claiming foul play.

No.

> **[Sports reporter Grant Wahl died of a ruptured aortic aneurysm at World Cup,...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/14/us/grant-wahl-cause-death/index.html)**
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> Grant Wahl, the American soccer reporter who collapsed and died while covering the World Cup in Qatar last week, died of an aortic aneurysm that ruptured, his wife, Dr. Celine Gounder, said Wednesday.

> Doctors are now exploring whether Mr. Wahl had Marfan syndrome, a risk factor for this type of aneurysm. He was tall and thin and had long arms, all of which can be signs of the genetic syndrome.

> **[Grant Wahl Died of a Burst Blood Vessel, His Family Says (Published 2022)](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/14/health/grant-wahl-death.html)**
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> An autopsy in New York showed that the journalist had a tear in the ascending aorta, a large vessel that carries blood from the heart.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1759 "2022-12-14T17:48:48Z")

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So far Karl Heinze Rumminege, Diego Maradona and Lionel Messi have led a side to two separate World Cup Finals. In todays match Hugo Lloris hopes to become Captain number 5.

Vittorio Pozzo, Helmut Schon, Franz Beckenbauer and Carlos Bilardo have led teams to multiple World Cup finals. Deschamps can be no 5 as well.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1760 "2022-12-14T18:22:21Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> Our technique was to bore them by starting broad-based, multilateral discussions on the role of federal-provincial relations in multicultural negotiations until they cracked.

Hey, why are you bringing the plot of _The Phantom Menace_ into a World Cup thread?

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1761 "2022-12-14T19:06:03Z")

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That was the first time in this tournament that the Moroccan defense was confused.

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