# World Cup 2022 - discussion, predictions, and thoughts

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\
**Created:** [November 6, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476 "2022-11-06T20:37:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1863 "2022-12-18T15:22:21Z")

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Penalty !!!

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1864 "2022-12-18T15:22:46Z")

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Can they be more obvious?

There hasn’t been an dive of a handballer that the refs didn’t like.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1865 "2022-12-18T15:23:06Z")

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Ouch. that’s got to hurt

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1866 "2022-12-18T15:23:49Z")

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I predict a French goal in less than 10 mins.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1867 "2022-12-18T15:25:42Z")

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Very harsh penalty, made sure the trailing leg was dangled and “bought” the contact. I’d love to see those punished with a yellow card, they happen far too often.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1868 "2022-12-18T15:26:01Z")

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Messi has done what Maradona never did, score in a World Cup final. This is the first Argentine World Cup final goal since Burrachagas winner in 1986.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1869 "2022-12-18T15:26:49Z")

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What is the rule on when penalty kicks are awarded? That seemed like a minor foul at most.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1870 "2022-12-18T15:27:46Z")

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Messi’s owner bought the tournament.  
Including the refs.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1871 "2022-12-18T15:28:13Z")

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Well, that penalty on Perasic 4 years ago wasn’t one. Neither was the free kick which led to goal no 1.  
So fair is fair?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1872 "2022-12-18T15:28:25Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Messi’s owner bought the tournament.

Is there evidence for claims like this? FIFA sucks, but are these things true?

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**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1873 "2022-12-18T15:28:48Z")

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After 1974 the team that has scored first has won every World Cup final except in 2006. However between 1950 and 1966 the team scoring first lost every single final. FWIW.

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1874 "2022-12-18T15:30:38Z")

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Any direct kick foul in the penalty box is automatically a penalty kick. Severity of the foul is not a consideration.

The defender obviously clipped the attacker’s leg, tripping him up. Dumb foul and obvious penalty.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1875 "2022-12-18T15:30:48Z")

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Did you just see that “penalty”?

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1876 "2022-12-18T15:30:51Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Well, that penalty on Perasic 4 years ago wasn’t one. Neither was the free kick which led to goal no 1.  
> So fair is fair?

No, two bad decisions remain two bad decisions. Croatia aren’t even in the final so a bum decision for Argentina does nothing for them.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1877 "2022-12-18T15:31:36Z")

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Did you see how worried the ref looked when Messi went down?

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1878 "2022-12-18T15:31:39Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Did you just see that “penalty”?

Yes…bad call. Any evidence for the claim of Messi’s owners buying off people?

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1879 "2022-12-18T15:32:29Z")

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The tournament is in fucking Qatar: should be a hint.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1880 "2022-12-18T15:34:01Z")

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Well, I half-jokingly predicted a Messi-Ronaldo Final being engineered by FIFA and Qatar. The government of Qatar owns PSG, the team that Messi plays on. Mbappe and Neymar also play for that team.

But Argentina is legitimately playing better and should be up.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1881 "2022-12-18T15:34:17Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> The tournament is in fucking Qatar: should be a hint.

I think that FIFA corruption is at the macro rather than the micro level but…would anyone really be massively surprised if such a thing were uncovered?

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1882 "2022-12-18T15:35:56Z")

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Di Maria!! Boom!

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