# World Cup 2022 - discussion, predictions, and thoughts

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** football-soccer-fifa\
**Created:** [November 6, 2022, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476 "2022-11-06T20:37:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1883 "2022-12-18T15:37:16Z")

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Now **that** was superb play.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1884 "2022-12-18T15:38:12Z")

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Wow, very exciting.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1885 "2022-12-18T15:39:14Z")

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That was brilliant. Messi with a touch like Maradona in 1986, and Di Maria, injured in 2014, scores.

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**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1886 "2022-12-18T15:39:47Z")

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Spectacular team goal on par with Carlos Alberto’s famous goal in 1970.

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**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1887 "2022-12-18T15:40:54Z")

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France is looking very flat here. Have to wonder if that virus is playing a role.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1888 "2022-12-18T15:41:44Z")

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And Deschamps reacts early with two subs.

My homeboy Marcus Thuram now in.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1889 "2022-12-18T15:42:20Z")

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Mbele AND Giroud coming off in the first half. Seem a little panicky to me.

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1890 "2022-12-18T15:43:28Z")

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A non injury forced change in the first half.  
It might be a great tactical change.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1891 "2022-12-18T15:43:44Z")

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Steady, it was a nice goal but it is a fair way below that bit of brilliance.

France have gone for a double-sub in the first half. They look massively down on energy and urgency.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1892 "2022-12-18T15:51:39Z")

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Y’know, after the Messi score I thought that over the voices of the US commentators I could hear somewhere behind some other broadcast still going _“…oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!!!”_

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1893 "2022-12-18T15:55:29Z")

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What the heck was wrong with France? Argentina played a fantastic first half, but why was France so passive, even after the first goal?

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**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1894 "2022-12-18T15:55:45Z")

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France didn’t have a single shot in the whole half; Argentina had 6. Really hard to see France coming back from this though I hope they can at least raise their game and make a fight of it.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1895 "2022-12-18T15:56:03Z")

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Unsurprisingly, the stats show complete domination:

> **[Argentina - France 4:3](https://www.flashscore.com/match/rBfk6fO7/#/match-summary/match-statistics/0)**
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> WORLD: World Championship - Play Offs - Final

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1896 "2022-12-18T15:59:18Z")

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They haven’t looked good throughout the KO stages. Scoring on breaks. Against inferior teams like England, and as much as it pains me to say, Morocco, they could get away with it, and if Southgate was a better tactican and Kane a better PK taker, they would have lost in the QF.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1897 "2022-12-18T16:02:59Z")

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yey, glorious times

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1898 "2022-12-18T16:03:32Z")

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Brazil were the last defending champions to win a World Cup final, in 1962.  
Argentina (1990) and Brazil the last two defending champions (1998) to reach a WC Final both lost.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1899 "2022-12-18T16:04:12Z")

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I cannot bear the idea of any nation ruling the world for 8 consecutive years, that would be too long a smugness

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1900 "2022-12-18T16:07:01Z")

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Well I doubt the French will be less smug even if they lose.

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**Author:** ![Lantern2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lantern2/32/3010_2.png) [@Lantern2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lantern2)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1901 "2022-12-18T16:09:52Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> I cannot bear the idea of any nation ruling the world for 8 consecutive years, that would be too long a smugness

Mussolini’s Italy won in 1934 and 1938, technically making them champions for 16 years till 1950 though WW2 probably ended any smugness they felt…

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-2022-discussion-predictions-and-thoughts/974476/1902 "2022-12-18T16:23:13Z")

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Something deeply wrong with France here, Argentina are playing well but being flattered a little by France’s abscence.

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