# World Cup pub football arguement.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 20, 2002, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036 "2002-06-20T11:07:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Francesca](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9fc348/32.png) [@Francesca](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Francesca)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2002, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/41 "2002-06-20T18:12:55Z")

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Bollocks.

Pint?

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2002, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/42 "2002-06-20T18:21:49Z")

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> and probably Scholes as Willow, I shouldn’t wonder.

thank you. How am I supposed to fantasize about Alyson Hannigan now?

Thanks a lot.  
humph.

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2002, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/43 "2002-06-20T18:31:15Z")

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No doubt about it, Johnny G was a brilliant player, could land the ball on a sixpence from 40 yards, and even catch the striker on the right stride to collect it.

Pity about Harte’s penalty.

All that fuss about Italians being cheated out of a tournament, yet it all goes very quiet from that direction when you mention Leeds versus a certain Italian club where the referee was found to have accepted ‘gifts’.  
The UEFA inquiry banned that referee from any further participation in the sport, but the name on the trophy is still Juventus.

We all know that some of the best players in the England never get a game for the national side, your face has to fit in, Matt Letissier should have been a mainstay of our midfield, but instead we chose that useless git, Glen Hoddle who only ever had one decent game for England, but every time he did play the commentators would tell us just how great he played for Tottenham, (as if I give a stuff about Tottenham), and what did Spurs win whilst Hoddle was playing ? Couple of FA cups and a UEFA cup, no league of course, no European Cup, and it was their Argentine contingent that made the most telling contributions to the small bit of success that Spurs had.

Hoddle, one of Englands great midfielders ! Don’t make me laugh!!

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**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2002, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/44 "2002-06-20T19:22:12Z")

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I would like to thank the committee for awarding me this lovely “Very Old Nuns” award for the successful thwarting of Impure Thoughts.

Le Tissier was one of the most brilliant players we ever had. It’s a fucking travesty he wasn’t an automatic bloody choice. Le Tiss was a genius, and a top bloke by many accounts, too.

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**Author:** ![sc913](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@sc913](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sc913)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2002, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/45 "2002-06-20T19:39:39Z")

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Agreed about Le Tissier, as long as you don’t name him in any of your conspiracy theories 😉

Slag off Hoddle all you want, I don’t care, as long as no one is slagging off the Waddler. If you do, you’ll have to argue with my fist.

[waves fist drunkenly. almost falls down]

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2002, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/46 "2002-06-20T19:42:03Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \*  
> \*\*I’d go to the US game. The Ireland Scotland game will be rife for English And Scottish Hoolies to get together for some trouble. plenty of singing about “Up to our knees in Fenian blood” at that one ☹ . \*\*

Oh, I doubt it. Most Scotland supporters are far more anti-England than anti-Ireland, the real hardcore sectarian fuckwits don’t support the Scotland team either. But I don’t think we can make this game anyway as we have a wedding in Cork to go to the following weekend, remember?

I’d like to make the US game but it really depends on what Celtic are doing in Europe at the time … yes club-before-country, that’s me alright.

As for the Croatian jersey … I’m not sure if anyone outside the States will get this reference but the first time I saw it I wondered if Purina was their sponsor.

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**Author:** ![fisico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cab0a1/32.png) [@fisico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisico)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2002, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/47 "2002-06-20T20:33:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by sc913 \*  
> \*\*Yep, the Brazil-mania is tiresome. The worst is the buildup Roberto Carlos gets before any free kick. He’s been smashing free-kick after free-kick into innocent opponents in the wall for years now, and his free-kick goal was ‘inevitable’? Bleh!  
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Carlos and Rivaldo are all about running with the ball and then losing it. It’s a to bad those two cost Romario his place in the squad.

Carlos is really overrated. If he shoots the way he wants to the ball is going out of the stadium, when he kicks it at the wrong place it goes on goal. Lots of luck and no talent.

That people picked him over Maldini for the Eurosport-team is unbelievable.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2002, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/48 "2002-06-20T21:17:42Z")

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ah yes, Cork wedding… 😉 ain’t no way in hell I could miss that!  
Actually, the inside of the Croat jersey was made in Co. Donegal.

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2002, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/49 "2002-06-20T21:31:01Z")

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I know that if I got the money that Rivaldo and Co got then I’d be bloody brilliant too, and I wouldn’t fall over every time my hair got messy.

They go on all about them wonderful Brazilian goals from outside the box, taken on the volley and curving delightfully away from the goallie but tell you what

(“no, what ? as if we care anyway, you’re getting pissed now”)

**I’LL TELL YOU WHAT**

It all looks so good on the news highlights but when you see the game itself you notice that for every shot on target, there are dozens that go into orbit, go wide, hit another player and go out, and tamely plant themselves into the goalkeeprs gloves, no-one seems to mention these, its a case of hit a goal and be a hero or miss by a mile and everyone forgets, but I don’t.

:::slumps off stool:::::

thud!!!

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**Author:** ![Go\_alien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9d8465/32.png) [@Go\_alien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_alien)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2002, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/50 "2002-06-21T10:21:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by amanset \*  
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> Isn’t that imposible these days, what with Golden Goals and all that? \*\*

Damn, spotted the one flaw in my cunning plan.

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**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2002, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-pub-football-arguement/115036/51 "2002-06-22T01:20:43Z")

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My dad is like that all the time, but he doesn’t talk soccer:  
“Gretzky wasn’t that great. He wouldn’t have got all those points without his wingers. Give me a player like Tiger Williams any day - he’s worth twenty Gretzkies”

“Barry Bonds gets all the glory, but home runs don’t win games. Singles and groundouts win games - home runs are just flashier”

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