# World Cup: QFs and beyond

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 30, 2006, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759 "2006-06-30T15:22:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/21 "2006-07-01T16:23:34Z")

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A red? A red for **that**? Good God, that was a terrible call.

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/22 "2006-07-01T16:26:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
A red? A red for **that**? Good God, that was a terrible call.  
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Well he did kick him in the junk. That’s usually a no-no in most aspects of polite society.  
And professional sports.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/23 "2006-07-01T16:34:55Z")

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Even the English commentators are saying that was a just red card.

More penalties perhaps?

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/24 "2006-07-01T16:51:22Z")

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[QUOTE=DxZero]  
Well he did kick him in the junk. That’s usually a no-no in most aspects of polite society.  
And professional sports.  
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The red was for the push, wasn’t it? He wasn’t called over to the ref until after the push.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/25 "2006-07-01T16:56:16Z")

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Everybody(tv talking heads) is saying it was for stamping on the player when he was down.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/26 "2006-07-01T17:12:04Z")

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The commentator that I’m listening to(who is British) has been saying that it was for the push.

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/27 "2006-07-01T17:14:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Rysto]  
The red was for the push, wasn’t it? He wasn’t called over to the ref until after the push.  
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Maybe a little bit of both.

However, I don’t think the push by itself warranted a red. But stomping on the crown jewels…yeah.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/28 "2006-07-01T17:14:47Z")

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One thing that has to be said. The English support are phenomenal. Fair play to them. They have sang their hearts out for the whole time.

It’s like a home game for England.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/29 "2006-07-01T17:30:37Z")

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Peeeenaaaaltiiiies!

Yeah, we’re out.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/30 "2006-07-01T17:40:48Z")

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Come on England. For fuck sake, win this bastrad.

Never thought I’d post something like that 🙂

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/31 "2006-07-01T17:43:17Z")

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[QUOTE=yojimbo]  
Come on England. For fuck sake, win this bastrad.

Never thought I’d post something like that 🙂  
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Not looking too good right now.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/32 "2006-07-01T17:43:52Z")

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Ye just don’t do penalties do ya.

Hard luck chaps.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/33 "2006-07-01T17:44:47Z")

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Heh, the commentator said pretty much the same thing as you, yojimbo.

Ah well.

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/34 "2006-07-01T17:46:58Z")

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Do you think that England missed Beckam and Rooney in that shootout? Terrible performance, again.

Portugal did not look good today. Had they not been up a man, they wouldn’t have won this game. They’ll have to be significantly better to advance to the finals.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/35 "2006-07-01T17:51:43Z")

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I really wouldn’t want to be Rooney tomorrow. Or Eriksson; WTF was he thinking?

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/36 "2006-07-01T20:04:10Z")

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I wonder what he Man U taining ground will be like When Rooney, Neville, Ferdinand get together with Ronaldo.

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/37 "2006-07-01T20:54:43Z")

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Vive la France!

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/38 "2006-07-01T20:55:33Z")

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…France can play. Looks like I underestimated them quite a bit. Well done them.

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/39 "2006-07-01T20:59:51Z")

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C’est déjà vu, non? _Oui_.

France were terrific, especially 1.) their defensive shape and 2.) _Zidane. Zidane, Zidane, Zidane._ Easily the classiest player of the last decade or so.

Germany-France final, anyone?

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2006, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-cup-qfs-and-beyond/362759/40 "2006-07-01T21:01:19Z")

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Nobody ever doubted France’s talent. The question coming into this tournament concerned their cohesiveness. Well, they found it.

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