# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 123
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2441 "2009-06-28T20:28:06Z")
Thanks **jay**. The reason I went there at all is because I found a note from someone who I thought also had Alzheimer’s and was playing the game. His sig read: “I have Alzheimer’s…but at least I don’t have Alzheimer’s!” I just “went there” to introduce myself, and maybe add him to my friends list so maybe we could pair up. But when I checked him out in the Armory, I found he was a level 65 with 2 toons already retired. I thought it meant he, himself, had retired. :smack: Anyway, this jackass (another poster, not the one whom I thought had AD) comes in with that comment… As for any other site. I much prefer this one and this thread. Y’all “know” me and I don’t want to have to re-explain everything. You guys have been very patient and understanding and besides, this is “home”!🙂 Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2442 "2009-06-28T22:29:14Z")
1. Dailies: Took a look at Wow Wiki, but they’re telling me that a) the info is outdated and b) telling me to click on the upper right hand corner of my quest log, but there’s nothing to click on. So is this something I can do? 2. The Flame: Can those fire-blossoms be re-generated. or is that just a one-time thing? I’m dowsn to my last one. Thanks! Q ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2443 "2009-06-28T22:40:56Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > 1. Dailies: Took a look at Wow Wiki, but they’re telling me that a) the info is outdated and b) telling me to click on the upper right hand corner of my quest log, but there’s nothing to click on. So is this something I can do? > > 2. The Flame: Can those fire-blossoms be re-generated. or is that just a one-time thing? I’m dowsn to my last one. > Thanks! > > Q The fire festival dailies are the two higher-level quests. I don’t think you’re high enough level for those to even show. You get fire blossoms for honoring Alliance bonfires and extinguishing Horde ones. There are Alliance bonfires near most of the Alliance or neutral towns. There are Horde bonfires near most of the Horde or neutral towns. You honor the Alliance flames by accepting the quest from the Flame Warden near the bonfire. They’ll have their title and a quest mark over their head. You extinguish Horde flames by getting close enough and right clicking when the gear cursor comes up. If you extinguish a Horde flame, you get flagged for PvP, so be careful. You get 5 fire blossoms for honoring an Alliance flame. You get 10 for extinguishing a Horde flame. You also get good xp and money for doing each of those. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2444 "2009-06-28T22:44:46Z")
Thanks, **jay**. **Kingspades** told me that about the Horde flames, and I forgot. SORRY! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2445 "2009-06-28T23:20:50Z")
I just discovered my new least favorite quest: the stupid goddamn fucking shadowmoon tubers in Shadowmoon Valley! This is the most frustrating thing EVER! It’s not about a low drop rate…this is much worse. You have three independent variables going on: a) the chance for a tuber to spawn somewhere within “earshot” of b) a living pig, which has to not be c) in combat with one of the flayers. If you find a tuber, there’s no non-combatant living pig. If you find a non-combatant living pig, there’s no tuber. If you do happen to find a tuber near a non-combatant living pig, you have to hurry like hell to whistle before one of the goddamn flayers gets a taste for pork. I finally got 5 tubers, after an hour and a half of trying. I’m still trying but I’m damn near ready to give up. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2446 "2009-06-28T23:24:24Z")
;)😃 Then it **must** be a toughie, my friend, because I rarely ever see you being this _evocative_!;)😃 Q ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2447 "2009-06-29T00:30:47Z")
Now this is puzzling. I just completed the quest in Stormpeaks to kill Fjorn for Thorim. When I turned in the quest, my chat window said: “Reputation with The Sons of Hodir increased by 24200.” “You are now Hated with The Sons of Hodir.” 😕 I _increased_ my rep to “Hated”? What was it before (Neutral or nonexistent, I assume)? I thought “Hated” was as bad a rep as you could have. And if Fjorn was affiliated with The Sons of Hodir, how did killing him increase my rep with them? In the spirit of the earlier discussion regarding large toons on small mounts, I took a few shots of my paladin on her various mounts while she was disguised as one of those big blue women in Brunnhildar Village: [http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/tiny\_mounts.jpg](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/tiny_mounts.jpg) I took a shot of her on her Swift Red Gryphon, but unfortunately its wings were “up” and she was hidden. **Quasi** , regarding the official WoW forums and the people there … I posted several “bug reports” regarding in-game text that had blatant errors in spelling, grammar, or simply used the wrong word (for example, the rogue trainer in the orc/troll starting area says something like, “Now that you know where I’m **holding** up…”, and it was clear from the context that what he meant was “ **holing** up” - as in hiding), and people on the WoW boards actually posted to argue with me. I wanted to reach through teh Intarwebs, grab them by the throat, give them a good shake, and scream, “Read a book!” ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2448 "2009-06-29T00:46:53Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > ;)😃 > > Then it **must** be a toughie, my friend, because I rarely ever see you being this _evocative_!;)😃 > > Q I did manage to finish it. It leads to three more quests, and I was fine finishing two of them, but the third is impossible to solo because the mob you have to kill has something like 85000 health. I hate non-instance elites… ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2449 "2009-06-29T00:48:14Z")
**Rik** , being a former high school English teacher (late 70’s), those kinds of mistakes just “pop out” at me, and for a MMPORG site such as WoW, that kind of thing is just inexcusable. They go through so much trouble to make the game realistic (even to the point of burning one’s feet running through a campfire:)), that they really should run all of their dialogue by an editor before locking it in. Wonder if they’d pay **me** to do that?🙂 A typo I can understand, but not an error in syntax. Glad I am not the only one having problems with those ijits. Quasi ETA (for **jayjay** : I WoW-Wiki’d for neutral towns where I could extinguish Horde flames, but didn’t see any in my “virginity” (;)), whose names I recognized…) PS, **Rik** : Why the small mount for your Pallie? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2450 "2009-06-29T00:50:02Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Now this is puzzling. I just completed the quest in Stormpeaks to kill Fjorn for Thorim. When I turned in the quest, my chat window said: > > “Reputation with The Sons of Hodir increased by 24200.” > > “You are now Hated with The Sons of Hodir.” > > 😕 > > I _increased_ my rep to “Hated”? What was it before (Neutral or nonexistent, I assume)? I thought “Hated” was as bad a rep as you could have. You don’t know your reputation with a given faction until you’ve either interacted with a member of that faction or gotten a rep increase with it. Once you do either of those two, the reputation becomes known and the game tells you “You are now X with Y.” So when you discover a faction that starts at Hated, Hostile, or Unfriendly by _gaining_ rep, you get something like that. Hated is a big honkin’ section of rep, spanning 36000 points. Presuming you automatically start at 0/36000 with the Sons of Hodir, when you get that chunk of rep you simultaneously jump to 24200/36000 and know your rep score with SoH for the first time. Since 24200 isn’t enough to get you out of Hated, you get those two messages. A similar thing happens with Sporeggar in Zangarmarsh. The Withered Bog Lords and Withered Giants in the Dead Mire in the NE corner of Zang give Sporeggar rep, but on encountering them a player likely hasn’t run into Sporeggar yet. So you kill a Bog Lord, and it not only tells you your rep with Sporeggar has increased by 15 but that you are now Unfriendly with Sporeggar, since that’s the rep you start at with them. Confused the hell out of me too the first time. ETA: The tiny mounts are hilarious. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2451 "2009-06-29T00:50:51Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > PS: Why the small mount for your Pallie? The mount didn’t shrink. His toon grew. There’s a series of quests in Northrend (Wrath of the Lich King content) where someone casts a spell to make you look like one of the blue ladies who live in those mountains, so you can interact with them without getting killed. The ladies are BIG…that’s why the mounts look so small. When I did that one, I always rode my bear, because it was the only mount that didn’t look like a toy. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2452 "2009-06-29T01:02:29Z")
In other news, I’m slowly collecting the pieces for my [epic flying mount](http://www.wowwiki.com/Turbo-Charged_Flying_Machine_Control) for my Engineer. Since they removed the regular flying mount as a necessary component, I figured I might as well skip it entirely. Big downside, though. It takes so much material to get from Engineering 300 to 375 that I’ve not been able to sell any. I’ll have the components for the turboprop, sure, but even after patch 3.2 it’s still going to cost a solid 4480 gold to get Artisan flying (not to mention the extra for Cold Weather Flying). Hell, I only have 1222 gold on all my characters combined (thank you, Titan Panel!), and my Paladin’s going to need money for his flying mounts too. If I could get someone to 80, that would make things a lot easier, but my Paladin’s at 67 and can’t advance without my GF along, and my Hunter’s only at 64 soloing his way up. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2453 "2009-06-29T01:31:04Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **Rik** , being a former high school English teacher (late 70’s), those kinds of mistakes just “pop out” at me, and for a MMPORG site such as WoW, that kind of thing is just inexcusable. Yeah, they pop out at me, too! > [@](#): > > PS, **Rik** : Why the small mount for your Pallie? When I started a certain quest chain, an NPC used magic to disguise me as one of the people I was infiltrating. That kind of thing happens in many different places in the game. In this case, the group I was infiltrating are all giant-sized, or at least much bigger than a human. So my disguise made me giant-sized as well. But my mounts didn’t change size, so while I’m in disguise they look way too small 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2454 "2009-06-29T01:31:12Z")
**Bosstone** , am I reading you right that you need gold for one of your toons? I just happen to be “filthy” with it at the moment ;), if you’d like to run me through DM. I solo’d it about an hour ago, but wasn’t able to make it past the first portal. That is, of course if you have a toon in Alextrazca. I know you can’t transfer funds between servers. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2455 "2009-06-29T01:33:09Z")
**jay** and **Rik** : Gotcha! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2456 "2009-06-29T01:35:45Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **Bosstone** , am I reading you right that you need gold for one of your toons? > > I just happen to be “filthy” with it at the moment ;), if you’d like to run me through DM. > > I solo’d it about an hour ago, but wasn’t able to make it past the first portal. > > That is, of course if you have a toon in Alextrazca. > > I know you can’t transfer funds between servers. Unfortunately you can’t transfer, and I don’t have a toon on Alex. I do appreciate the offer, though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2457 "2009-06-29T01:37:20Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Big downside, though. It takes so much material to get from Engineering 300 to 375 I feel your pain. I’m trying to raise my Tailoring, and the only pattern I have that will consistently raise my skill is a cloak that requires several expensive components. So I spent about 80g to make one cloak and raise my skill from 405 to 406. I’m wearing that cloak myself, but I made several of a slightly “lesser” cloak and had a very difficult time selling them. Imbued Frostweave is _extremely_ expensive at the AH, and I need it for just about everything now. Farming my own Frostweave is darned tedious, but I’m resigning myself to it. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2458 "2009-06-29T05:55:49Z")
This is very unfair!:mad: I needed a break from the usual “grind” and picked this 13-part quest up from Madame Eva in Darkshire. After gallavanting all over the Eastern Kingdom for this and that document, I finally get to the part where I’m supposed to kill this guy, only he’s a level 32 and I have to go through a bunch of Undead level 29’s to get to where he lives! (I’m a 25 and have been for over a week now - can one level up by continously battling lower level enemies?) I killed one of the 29’s, but took some “rot” damage, and even though I waited out the 10 minutes, I wasn’t able to kill the next one… It wasn’t a totally bad night, though. When I hearth back to my “home” (The Sentinel Hill Inn), I can maneuver Wolkie so that Heather’s hand appears like it’s going under his crotch and coming out sorta like between his butt-cheeks.:eek:😉 He seems to like it, 'cause his whole body does that sighing thing! I know, I know… I’m a pervy old man, right? 😃 Quasi PS: **Bosstone,** yeah sorry that won’t work for ya’! ---
**Author:** ![Animastryfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Animastryfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Animastryfe)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2459 "2009-06-29T06:03:02Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > (I’m a 25 and have been for over a week now - can one level up by continously battling lower level enemies?) Your character only gains experience from mobs whose levels are not too much lower than yours. If a mob’s level is too low, then their level number sign thingy should be grey. [http://www.wowwiki.com/Experience](http://www.wowwiki.com/Experience) [http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mob\_XP](http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mob_XP) ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2460 "2009-06-29T06:14:01Z")
**Animastryfe** , thank you! According to the formula I need to be battling no mobs lower than 19. That helps a bunch!🙂 Quasi [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=122) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=124)