# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 129
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2561 "2009-07-01T18:31:38Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > Or just remove the need to level weapon skill, just make it so it is always maxed out(you know, like it is for druids). This’ll come eventually, once there’s a weapon skill cap of 500, there’s an achievement for getting every weapon skill available up to 500, and everyone who actually bothers to get the achievement does. Blizzard makes it easier only after the vets have killed themselves on the old system, for maximum pissed-offedness. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kingspades](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecae2f/32.png) [@Kingspades](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kingspades)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2562 "2009-07-01T18:48:55Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > She had somehow managed to never visit the Blue Recluse tavern. Actually, I just hadn’t bothered taking her there, mainly because of that barker who wanders around SW calling out, “Ask me how to get a free drink at The Blue Recluse!” Erich Lohan. Lying bastard! I hope he’s the first against the wall the next time the Horde razes Stormwind. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2563 "2009-07-01T19:03:13Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > Not really worth it in my opinion, maybe if one could reasonably be expected to complete it at level 31 but the last step requires you to kill level 39 elementals in Arathi Highlands. No higher-level friends to drag along? (And are you sure you’re not thinking of the Mage quest? That’s the one I’ve done more recently, and I know \*\*that \*\*one involved the elementals in Arathi, but I don’t recall the Warlock one taking you there. Of course, I haven’t touched my 'Lock in about a billion years, either.) ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2564 "2009-07-01T19:05:09Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > No higher-level friends to drag along? (And are you sure you’re not thinking of the Mage quest? That’s the one I’ve done more recently, and I know \*\*that \*\*one involved the elementals in Arathi, but I don’t recall the Warlock one taking you there. Of course, I haven’t touched my 'Lock in about a billion years, either.) [Yep.](http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Components_for_the_Enchanted_Gold_Bloodrobe_(5)) I had to help with this part. Thankfully we didn’t have to slaughter many elementals before we got what we needed. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2565 "2009-07-01T19:24:40Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > All my banks rock out the full tux–so stylish! Don’t forget your [monocle](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34827), [cufflinks](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34828), and [shoes](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40)! You may wish to consider a [pimp cane](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45861) or [letter opener](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2138) (I use the letter opener with various floral offhands I’ve gotten from friends over the years). Jewelry is also a consideration, but obviously won’t affect how your character appears to others. For shoes, I use the [Dress Shoes](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6836) ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2566 "2009-07-01T19:26:36Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > No higher-level friends to drag along? (And are you sure you’re not thinking of the Mage quest? That’s the one I’ve done more recently, and I know \*\*that \*\*one involved the elementals in Arathi, but I don’t recall the Warlock one taking you there. Of course, I haven’t touched my 'Lock in about a billion years, either.) Sure you _could_ do that, but it still doesn’t change that fact the robe is only so-so at best and I prefer to only ask for boosts when there are **good** rewards involved 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2567 "2009-07-01T20:55:11Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > For shoes, I use the [Dress Shoes](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6836) Those are the other ones that match. They don’t show up on Draenei, though, and I perfer the high boots on my toons since they’re all female. > [@Mogle](#): > > Sure you _could_ do that, but it still doesn’t change that fact the robe is only so-so at best and I prefer to only ask for boosts when there are **good** rewards involved I can’t get to Wowhead to search for other robes you could pick up at 31, but I’m fairly sure it’s one of the best robes a Warlock can get at the time. Could be wrong, though. YMM also V based on whether or not there’s another person of high level you typically run with–my pocket healer and I are usually online at the same time, even when we’re not actively running something together, and it’s not unusual for one of us to drop what we’re doing and/or switch toons to help the other one out on an alt. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2568 "2009-07-01T21:02:17Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I know y’all have been trying to tell me this about levelling before, but my mind musta not been “right” at the time, so last night when **Animastryfe** linked me to the formula on WoW-Wiki, I _finally_ grasped the concept of what mobs I need to attack to gain XP (watching the “bar”), and therefore _level_, and so now I’m a 26 and know exactly who I need to go after (nothing lower than 20) to get to 27 and so forth.🙂 As you experiment, you’ll get a feel for the most productive way to level. For example, my priest can get much more experience PER MOB killing mobs three levels higher than he does killing mobs three levels lower. But with the higher-level mobs, he’s only killing one at a time, and he has to stop and drink a lot. With the lower-level mobs, he can take on several at once, and rarely has to stop and drink. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > When I see chat written in _green_, is that _my_ guild-member/leader speaking to me (Apparently, I belong to the guild _Legends of Azeroth_), or is that just guild-chat in general? You can actually change all of the colors, so what shows up in green for me might show up in purple for you. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > You may now call my main, my lvl 80 Paladin, “Eilyssana the Explorer” 🆒 A big congratulations from Dhr the Explorer! I wear that tabard all the time now, too. > [@Redwing](#): > > It’s not that bad, really. To do it, buy a low level vendor white version of the weapon you want to skill up, the lower the weapon damage the better, go find a self healing grey mob (the belfs near SwP are great for this) and beat on them until you hit 400. I found that I could get from 1 to 380 pretty fast, from 380 to 399 slowly, and it took over an hour to get from 399 to 400. HOWEVER, instead of beating on a little self-healing gray mob, I slew spiders around Shattrath. As a mage, I could just throw up my frost shield every 30 seconds and leave the weapon on auto-attack. I ended up farming over 150 gold worth of netherweave spider silk as I raised weapon skills. > [@jayjay](#): > > Oh, and **Quasi**? Only sell the blue potions. The red potions CAN affect you, since they’re Health Potions, which restore your health up to a certain number (depending on the strength of the potion) instantly instead of gradually like eating does. And (here’s the real biggie), they can heal you while you’re in combat and being beaten on. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2569 "2009-07-01T21:15:46Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I can’t get to Wowhead to search for other robes you could pick up at 31, but I’m fairly sure it’s one of the best robes a Warlock can get at the time. Could be wrong, though. If you want sta/int then sure, there’s nothing better at level 31, it’s just that compared to spellpower sta/int is kind of meh. If I’m going to enlist help I’d rather have them farm SM:Lib for [the Robe of Doan](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=7711) for me 🙂 Here’s all the robes for [level 25-35](http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.1&filter=sl=5;minle=30;maxle=40#0-2+1). ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2570 "2009-07-01T21:54:16Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > If you want sta/int then sure, there’s nothing better at level 31, it’s just that compared to spellpower sta/int is kind of meh. If I’m going to enlist help I’d rather have them farm SM:Lib for [the Robe of Doan](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=7711) for me You’d take +4 Stam +13 Spirit +14 SP on Robe of Doan over +10 Stam +17 Int on Enchanted Gold Bloodrobe, for a 30-40 Warlock? Pardon me if I think those stats are absolute crap in comparison, given that Spirit is useless for 'Locks until they pick up Fel Armor at 62. Sure, it has some SP, but it has \*\*no \*\*Int (mana + spell crit) and \*\*less than half \*\*of the Stam (can be converted to Int, can carry over to pet). ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2571 "2009-07-01T22:06:31Z")
I’m not even clear on why spellpower is so good. I’ve tried to make sense of the relevant pages in WoWWiki, but all I can get out of it is apparently even a single point SP is _gold_, and I’m not really sure why. I have a decent idea of how all the stats scale and interact with each other, and I’m getting a handle on crit rating, hit rating, attack power, and such, but I really don’t grok spellpower. ---
**Author:** ![twilly80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9adbd/32.png) [@twilly80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twilly80)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2572 "2009-07-01T22:20:38Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > You’d take +4 Stam +13 Spirit +14 SP on Robe of Doan over +10 Stam +17 Int on Enchanted Gold Bloodrobe, for a 30-40 Warlock? Pardon me if I think those stats are absolute crap in comparison, given that Spirit is useless for 'Locks until they pick up Fel Armor at 62. Sure, it has some SP, but it has \*\*no \*\*Int (mana + spell crit) and \*\*less than half \*\*of the Stam (can be converted to Int, can carry over to pet). Speaking of gold. SFG? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2573 "2009-07-01T22:49:58Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I’m not even clear on why spellpower is so good. Spellpower is basically a merger of the two old stats +spell damage and +healing. For a healer, it’s extra healing, for a DPS toon, it’s extra damage. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2574 "2009-07-02T00:32:14Z")
```auto MOD NOTE ``` > [@twilly80](#): > > Speaking of gold. SFG? Did I not make myself clear? Let’s reiterate: > [@Gukumatz](#): > > **Twilly80** : Calling people liars is not acceptable in the Game Room. If you have complaints regarding other posters, please take it to the BBQ pit. > \*\* > Further, your entire posting history on the board consists of begging for WoW gold in this thread. While begging isn’t prohibited on this board, pestering people about it is seen as bad form. Knock it off. > > This is not a formal warning. Persisting in this behaviour (begging, pestering other posters or namecalling outside the Pit) WILL result in one, however.\*\* > > - Gukumatz, > Game Room Moderator. This **IS** a formal warning. Drop the subject entirely. Further breaches may result in the revocation of your posting privileges. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2575 "2009-07-02T01:22:02Z")
[http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkieJuly.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkieJuly.jpg) I know: We look like a 1980’s pimp, and all we need is a boom-box on our shoulder, right? 😉 Also, apologies to **Mister Rik** and **Mogle** for the “immature shit” comment. I overreacted - simple as that, and I am sorry. No buts, just sayin’ I go a little _Booga-Booga_ sometimes. Okay, Okay! I go a LOT _Booga-Booga sometimes! 🙂_ **jayjay** : I will remember about the potions. Don’t sell the reds. **SFG** : 10-4 on the Glyphs, but still confused about Guild chat. It’s not just MY guild communicating with ME and other members of MY guild (_Legends of Azeroth_), right? It’s just a GENERAL chat which includes ALL guilds and ALL guild members? Thanks, guys! Your help is ALWAYS appreciated! Quasi ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2576 "2009-07-02T01:27:27Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > but still confused about Guild chat. It’s not just MY guild communicating with ME and other members of MY guild (_Legends of Azeroth_), right? It’s just a GENERAL chat which includes ALL guilds and ALL guild members? Nope. Guild chat is JUST your guild. There is a chat channel in the cities called “Guild Recruitment” but it just shows up white or gray or whatever your general chat is. There is no “All Guilds” chat channel. ---
**Author:** ![Electronic\_Chaos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Electronic\_Chaos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Electronic_Chaos)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2577 "2009-07-02T04:53:31Z")
Okay, quick question: How do you report somebody to a GM? I was running a guildie through SM tonight, and just outside the Cathedral (past the locked door, before the instance entrance), we watched someone level from 10-20, as if by magic. I right clicked his name like I would for a spammer, but there wasn’t anything. Of course, I forgot to save his name for reporting later, but for future reference, I guess. Is there any legitimate way someone could do that? I mean, you wouldn’t get any exp if you had people inside killing for you, right? Anyway, my guildie had a good run overall - we did the Cathedral and Armory and he got most of the drops he wanted, and he made at least 5g out of it. I also gave him some fairly decent (for his level) enchants. Helping people is fun! As is tearing down elites that would have given me serious problems 35 levels ago! ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2578 "2009-07-02T05:06:25Z")
> [@Electronic\_Chaos](#): > > Okay, quick question: How do you report somebody to a GM? > > I was running a guildie through SM tonight, and just outside the Cathedral (past the locked door, before the instance entrance), we watched someone level from 10-20, as if by magic. I saw where somebody described the same thing on the official WoW forums. The answer was: “Recruit-a-Friend”. RAF lets you designate your friend’s toon (that is, a friend you persuaded to play the game, and they listed your account name as the one that referred them). Their toon then gets a great big XP bonus, something along the lines of they gain two levels for every 1 level your toon gains. The idea is that the friend you recruited can quickly catch up to your level so that he can play with you. And apparently, this XP bonus accrues whether the friend is logged in or not. So if he doesn’t play for several days, and in the meantime you play a lot and gain several levels, the next time he logs in his toon he will immediately gain _all_ of that accrued XP at once. The result is what you saw - a character gaining multiple levels one right after another, as if by magic. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2579 "2009-07-02T05:12:13Z")
It’s not an automatic thing. You have to right-click on your friend’s portrait and select Grant A Level, exactly as if you were going to Trade with them. You have to do that for each level you’ve accrued and want to use up. This way, if your recruited friend has a level 40, they have 20 levels accrued and can give 10 to one alt, 5 to another, and 5 to another, or however you want to distribute them. The Recruit-A-Friend bennies are exceedingly badass. Way better than a simple free month. You honestly can go from 1 to 60 in a week or two if you play hard. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2580 "2009-07-02T05:27:58Z")
So tonight I’ve been power-leveling Cooking (I’m up to 157 so far), and going unarmed while farming the meat I need so that I can finish leveling my Unarmed skill while I’m at it. So I got Unarmed from 379 to 396 in the process of punching the Sand Crawlers in Westfall onto the endangered species list. Then I wandered over to Wetlands to farm Raptor Eggs to make Curiously Tasty Omelets, and I decided while I was there to finally investigate Grim Batol. Now, Grim Batol was an important location in WarCraft II, and through reading the various books scattered around Azeroth I’ve learned more of its history. I punched my way through the multitude of lvl 58-62 elite red dragonkin (including Axtroz), getting my Unarmed skill up to 399 in the process, passed through three immense, fortified gates on my way in, and finally rode up to the impressive facade of Grim Batol itself, only to be faced with a huge closed door. It had already occurred to me before I started that I had never seen a single quest in WoW relating to Grim Batol (obviously, since you can’t even get into the place even after getting past/through all the dragons guarding it. So … anybody know why they even bothered? Is it just there because of its importance in the lore? If that’s the reason, I’m thinking it would have made more sense to just have it there, marked on the map but totally inaccessible. Say, just close that first gate. That way they wouldn’t have needed to spend time designing the whole exterior shot. In any case, with the Old World level cap at 60, the vast majority of pre-expansion players weren’t going to get in there anyway. And the ones who did … I bet they felt really let down after fighting through all those dragonkin only to find … nothing. Any speculation on the chances that Grim Batol is going to play a role in a future expansion? Like, I assume all those portals to the Emerald Dream that are guarded by high-level elite green dragonkin are finally going to come into play in the next expansion, if the rumors of its subject matter are correct. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=128) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=130)