# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 137
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2721 "2009-07-08T05:31:31Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **Rik** , if you are so inclined and _can_, I could use some help with my “Legend of Stalvan” quest. He’s a 32 and I’ve just been working on his undead in order to level up… > > Q Wrong server ☹ I think I just found the most expensive fish in the game: the [Crescent-Tail Skullfish](http://thottbot.com/i33824). Auctioneer tells me the going price for a stack of 20 is 84g :eek: I never would have known the fish existed, except a mob dropped the recipe for Skullfish Soup. It would seem this fish may also be one of the most rare fish in the game (hence the price). It can only be fished in Deadwind Pass (c’mon, who goes there?) and a couple spots in Ghostlands. Also in the water in Deadwind Pass, I fished up three other kinds of fish: Bloodfin Catfish (60g), Lightning Eel, and Barbed Gill Trout, a fish otherwise is only found in Outland. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2722 "2009-07-08T06:01:47Z")
NP, my friend. I’ll have it “penised” by tomorrow evening, I’m sure!😃 I see you love to fish on WoW. Do you also in real life? Wife says 45 more minutes! (She’s keeping an eye on them swelling ankles!)🙂 Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2723 "2009-07-08T06:34:29Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I see you love to fish on WoW. Do you also in real life? Nope. I don’t even like to _eat_ fish. Never saw the point of fishing up things I’m not gonna eat. Same thing with hunting - no philosophical objection to it, I just don’t care for venison etc., so why bother? Now, my dad on the other hand, loves to hunt (used to fish, too, until the laws got to the point where he was having to put novocaine on the hooks …) ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2724 "2009-07-08T09:00:27Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > About the gold-farmer: Looks like it’s legal now on WoW to buy gold. Have you noticed? No, goldselling is not, nor has it ever been legal. If Blizzard ever decide to allow goldselling it will be Blizzard doing the selling since they can create gold by pushing a button while the current gold sellers **steal** it from hacked accounts. Problem is the only thing Blizzard can do about it is to ban accounts and they have to be careful so they don’t ban legitimate players or players who has had their accounts stolen and used as spambots. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > **Rik** , if you are so inclined and _can_, I could use some help with my “Legend of Stalvan” quest. He’s a 32 and I’ve just been working on his undead in order to level up… You should consider heading to some other zone you’ve run out of quests in Duskwood, while level 29 may be a bit high for some of the quests there, you could go to the Wetlands or Ashenvale(where there is quest chain that will eventually take you back to Duskwood). Because the way the game is now you should never run out of quests if you’re willing to travel a bit between zones. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2725 "2009-07-08T14:42:43Z")
> [@Myrrajh](#): > > :eek: You have to pay guildies for help? Holy cow. I guess I’ve been lucky. I’ve never paid anyone for a run. I do what I can to help out when needed, even to non-guildies, and when I need a hand I’ve had help for no charge. And 15g for Deadmines? You got robbed. No way it’s worth that much. > > When I was bored with my 80 sometimes I’d head to Deadmines or the Stockades and offer free runs to whoever wanted it. I had fun just slaughtering things by the dozen, lol. I’ve never charged anyone for an instance run either. I had lots of free help along the way, often from complete strangers. I figure, by helping lowbies myself, I’m just continuing the tradition. Besides, it’s fun to go crush the mobs we used to have to be careful with 😃 ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2726 "2009-07-08T16:25:32Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > I’ve never charged anyone for an instance run either. I had lots of free help along the way, often from complete strangers. I figure, by helping lowbies myself, I’m just continuing the tradition. Besides, it’s fun to go crush the mobs we used to have to be careful with 😃 Hogger right? ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2727 "2009-07-08T16:34:47Z")
Are transfers available to Cairne? Once we can faction-change, I’d certainly consider swapping one of my higher-level Alliance toons to Horde and bringing him into the Burning Dog Legion. Could you use a shadow priest? > [@Myrrajh](#): > > :eek: You have to pay guildies for help? Holy cow. I guess I’ve been lucky. I’ve never paid anyone for a run. I do what I can to help out when needed, even to non-guildies, and when I need a hand I’ve had help for no charge. And 15g for Deadmines? You got robbed. No way it’s worth that much. On my server, it’s very common to have people announcing in trade chat that they’re willing to buy a run through Stocks or Deadmines for a few gold, and they almost always find a taker. The highest I’ve seen is 5 gold (actually, I may have seen 10 for stocks once). But never guildies. That’s what a guild is for. I practice my tradeskills for guildies free. You need something enchanted? A big bag tailored? Just get me the materials and I’ll do it. When someone announces in guild chat that they need help with a quest (e.g., Stalvan), they’ll almost always find a taker. I wouldn’t want to be involved in a guild where the other guild members charge for helping out. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > About the gold-farmer: Looks like it’s legal now on WoW to buy gold. No, it’s not. The gold-sellers may _tell_ you it is, but that’s not true. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > I have since written down the directions, which is something I will also have to do once I go back into Iron Forge (which to me is like one of those rat-mazes)! I’ve been playing for three years, and I still have to use my maps and ask guards for directions in some of the cities. I just recently started playing some hordies, and I was going NUTS in the Undercity. I ask directions, the dot shows up on the map, and I spend ten minutes running up and down ramps and stairs, crossing bridges, taking elevators, running into dead-ends. I think they built the Undercity just to annoy people. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2728 "2009-07-08T16:40:47Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Besides, it’s fun to go crush the mobs we used to have to be careful with 😃 > [@martu](#): > > Hogger right? For me, it’s Mor’Ladim and Morbent Fel in the cemetery in Duskwood. So many times when I was level 20 or so, they’d charge up, kill me in two shots, and run off–it feels good to go back and blow their heads off with a single frostbolt. Oh, and Stitches. I’ll come running from three zones away to help someone kill Stitches. I hate that guy. ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2729 "2009-07-08T16:41:04Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I think I just found the most expensive fish in the game: the [Crescent-Tail Skullfish](http://thottbot.com/i33824). Auctioneer tells me the going price for a stack of 20 is 84g :eek: I never would have known the fish existed, except a mob dropped the recipe for Skullfish Soup. It would seem this fish may also be one of the most rare fish in the game (hence the price). It can only be fished in Deadwind Pass (c’mon, who goes there?) and a couple spots in Ghostlands. I doubt skullfish go for anything close to that these days. It used to be valuable, back before WotLK, because it was used for Skullfish Soup, which was pretty much the only crit-granting food available. Nowadays, there are much better foods available (e.g., Worm Delight, Poached Nettlefish, Spiced Worm Burger, and Spicy Blue Nettlefish, all of which grant more stamina and crit than the soup does). Basically, skullfish are rare at this point because no one bothers to fish them up, because no one actually uses them. And nettlefish and worm meat are both easily obtained. ---
**Author:** ![CateAyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@CateAyo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CateAyo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2730 "2009-07-08T17:00:50Z")
It would be pretty cool to play and quest with y’all, but I am not keen on starting over on developing a character at the present. Is there a legitimate way to migrate a character without paying? ---
**Author:** ![Redwing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dfb087/32.png) [@Redwing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redwing)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2731 "2009-07-08T17:20:15Z")
> [@CateAyo](#): > > It would be pretty cool to play and quest with y’all, but I am not keen on starting over on developing a character at the present. Is there a legitimate way to migrate a character without paying? Wait for free character transfers to open up between your realm and the one you want to end up on (this may never happen). Otherwise, pay your $25. Also, aside from the doper guild, most of us play on varied servers, and are of both factions. Or just make a DK on the new realm, and skip all the old content. ETA Which server are you on, you never know, some of us may be there already. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2732 "2009-07-08T17:36:34Z")
Okay, holiday + in the hospital from Sunday night to yesterday morning = plenty of catch-up. Brace yerselves. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > [snip of stuff about the instance portal you saw vs. The Vault] I guess I always assumed that was just a back entrance. Quite a few instances have back doors. > [@Telperien](#): > > Some of my guildies have a ridiculous number of pets. I have, hrm, I think the current count for me is 83. Non-combat pets and mounts are my two big gold sinks. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > But Artruis actually managed to kill me when I had him down to almost no HP and suddenly none of my spells would go off. I got back as quickly as I could, only to discover that Jaloot had apparently finished off Artruis while I was running back. Artruis’ phylactery was sitting there on the ground with a gray “?” over it, and I was unable to click on the “Complete Quest” button. And, accordingly, the quest still shows as incomplete in my quest log. It’s 'cause you weren’t present when Artuis died. Next time, if the HP is that close, don’t release, and you should get credit. (Well, you would if it were a group member killing him–not 100% sure about an NPC, but it’s certainly worth a shot.) > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > and then for no reason that I could figure out, suddenly none of my spells would go off. I tried to hit him with an Exorcism, tried another HoW, tried to cast a Judgment on him, and finally in desperation I tried to cast Healing Touch on myself. Every spell just made that “fail” sound. Sounds like you’ve got the bug that I have pop up on occasion. Do you remember if you got a message something like, “Not a valid target”? (I think that’s it.) When I get the bug, I can’t use any target-specific abilities (only AOEs), I can’t get attachments from mail, I can’t right-click “on use” items, I can’t expand/collapse my quest log categories, etc. The only way to clear it is to try logging otu and back in. (Reloading the UI may also work, but I usually try swapping toons, then coming back.) > [@](#): > > Also, and I don’t know if this is a bug or what, but while Jaloot and Zepic were attacking me (I targeted and was trying to kill Zepic), my target kept changing. Could you have been accidentally hitting Tab? If you’re using the default keybindings, Tab cycles to the next target. > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > After getting a heads-up from my husband about an article on WoWInsider, my 70s hunter went and tamed herself a [Worgen pet](http://www.wow.com/2009/07/04/hunters-discover-new-worgen-pet/). Whoa, grats on getting the Worgen! They’ve already hotfixed it so that you can’t tame him, and it won’t work like a normal pet anymore, either. Assuming they don’t completely remove the pet from the game, are you going to keep it for a vanity pet while running around in cities? (I would!) > [@Quasimodem](#): > > The game instructs to click on Num Lock for auto-run, and that’s what I have been doing, but, as I wrote, only on long stretches of road. I actually have my autorun bound to the thumb button on my mouse. That way I can just start running (by holding down both mouse buttons), hit the button, then let go of the mouse to do other things (like type in chat or rest my hand). When I want to change direction or stop, I just hit both mouse buttons again, and that automatically clears autorun. > [@Telperien](#): > > I’ve been curious to know what everyone’s favorite mounts are. I have at least 51 of the damn things. Unfortunately, I can’t use nearly as many as I’d like, since Blizzard restricts macro size. The ground mount I use most often is the White War Talbuk, and my favorite flying mounts are probably my Cenarion War Hippogryph or my ugly-as-sin Albino Drake. Of course, my Black Stallion will always have a special place in my heart–I ground all the way to Exalted with Stormwind before I hit 40 just so I could get Sleutel a pretty pretty horsey instead of a kittycat as soon as she dinged. 😃 > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > … I can’t say I’ve ever gotten one of those as a Horde member. Did you level those toons back when we didn’t get our first mount until 40? I’m almost certain the letter was something they introduced when they lowered the level requirement to 30–I don’t remember getting one on my main, but I have gotten them on the other toons since then. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Ya know what’d be fun? Get all you high-level Straight Doper players into one guild (I know we have The Horde), and then just have, like an “All-Star Game”, during which some of the rest of us could watch y’all kick ass. I only wish! Unfortunately, my main is Alliance and on another server, and even when they make it possible to switch factions, I wouldn’t want to. Too bad. ☹ > [@](#): > > Also, about me paying for my runs? I don’t mind, even if it IS one of my guildies. We know you don’t mind, and it’s a lovely gesture on your part, but speaking personally, if I were your guildmate, I wouldn’t accept the money. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I think I just found the most expensive fish in the game: the [Crescent-Tail Skullfish](http://thottbot.com/i33824). Auctioneer tells me the going price for a stack of 20 is 84g :eek: That means it’s been listed for that price–it doesn’t mean people are going to buy it at that price at this point in time. The only use for it now is the Cooking achievement, and most people who are that Achievement-crazy will also have fishing and be able to go pick up their own Skullfish. > [@InvisibleWombat](#): > > For me, it’s Mor’Ladim and Morbent Fel in the cemetery in Duskwood. Any time I’m anywhere near Raven Hill, I make a special detour to smash Mor’Ladim’s face in. Doing so fills me with glee. > [@CateAyo](#): > > It would be pretty cool to play and quest with y’all, but I am not keen on starting over on developing a character at the present. Is there a legitimate way to migrate a character without paying? Occasionally, Blizzard will open up realms for free transfers. However, this always involves specific origin and destination servers, often with faction restrictions, and is used to balance populations. If you don’t want to pony up the $25 to move an existing Horde character to Cairne, why not roll a DK? That way you start at 55, which at least gives you a good head start. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2733 "2009-07-08T17:48:41Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Besides, it’s fun to go crush the mobs we used to have to be careful with 😃 Murlocs! Die die die murlocs! Ha-ha, can’t run away when I kill you in one shot, can you? BWAH-ha-ha-ha! Erm, _ahem_. Yeah, while I was in STV at level 80 I took the time to go nuts on that inland tribe of murlocs, just because they were there. It worked out well, too, because one of them dropped Page 1 of Green Hills of Stranglethorn, the only page I needed to complete the book (and the only one that wasn’t available on the AH). > [@Darwins\_Finch](#): > > I doubt skullfish go for anything close to that these days. It used to be valuable, back before WotLK, because it was used for Skullfish Soup, which was pretty much the only crit-granting food available. Yah, at the AH it ended up being priced at only around 20g. (I swear, if I don’t scan the AH daily, I end up with _wild_ differences between what Auctioneer’s tooltip says and what I actually end up with at the AH.) My Bloodfin Catfish still posted at 60g, though. Nobody else was selling either one. I have my doubts as to whether either of them will sell. Now I’m thinking that, when I found the Skullfish Soup recipe I should have posted it on the AH instead of learning it. That way, maybe somebody else would buy it and learn it, and then they’d need the fish I caught 😛 Last lowbie quest I worked on last night was received from that Fallen Hero of the Horde ghosty orc at the entrance into the Blasted Lands. I had to travel to Azshara and talk to the demon hunter dude on an island there, who then sent me to talk to the sea giant guy in the temple clear at the other end of the beach. The only ways to get to the giant were to swim more than a thousand yards, or ride back up into Azshara proper and then all the way around. And then the giant wanted me to go do this or that, which was going to require more long-distance swimming or else riding a long circuitous route. And then of course I’d need to get back to the demon hunter. Screw that. I hearthed back to Dalaran and got my stack of Elixir of Water Walking (the ones I’ve been getting from the Shattrath fishing dailies). Now I’ll be able to go back and just make beelines across the water. ---
**Author:** ![CateAyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@CateAyo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CateAyo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2734 "2009-07-08T18:07:30Z")
> [@Redwing](#): > > Wait for free character transfers to open up between your realm and the one you want to end up on (this may never happen). Otherwise, pay your $25. > > Also, aside from the doper guild, most of us play on varied servers, and are of both factions. > > Or just make a DK on the new realm, and skip all the old content. > > ETA Which server are you on, you never know, some of us may be there already. Thanks for your input I am on Trollbane (primarily Horde) and Fizzcrank (primarily Alliance) ---
**Author:** ![CateAyo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@CateAyo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CateAyo)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2735 "2009-07-08T18:09:00Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Occasionally, Blizzard will open up realms for free transfers. However, this always involves specific origin and destination servers, often with faction restrictions, and is used to balance populations. > > If you don’t want to pony up the $25 to move an existing Horde character to Cairne, why not roll a DK? That way you start at 55, which at least gives you a good head start. I’ll look into this. I don’t have a toon large enough to qualify at the moment. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2736 "2009-07-08T18:55:03Z")
> [@CateAyo](#): > > I’ll look into this. I don’t have a toon large enough to qualify at the moment. Oh, well if you don’t yet have any characters 55 or higher, why not just start a new one on Cairne? Leveling really does go ridiculously fast these days. ---
**Author:** ![Myrrajh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/87869e/32.png) [@Myrrajh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Myrrajh)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2737 "2009-07-08T18:57:14Z")
Speaking of Hogger…one night my guild was bored so we all rolled some level 1 toons and had a parade from Stormwind to Hogger. We had a raid group, almost 40 of us. It was hilarious. Not enough healers, though, and we were slaughtered. Pure silliness, but lots of laughs! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2738 "2009-07-08T19:43:50Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Hogger right? Hogger iz srs bizniz 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2739 "2009-07-08T19:58:27Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Hogger iz srs bizniz 😃 Well, considering the Statistics window actually has a stat for “Deaths From Hogger” … ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2740 "2009-07-08T20:03:59Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Well, considering the Statistics window actually has a stat for “Deaths From Hogger” … Bah. I took that level 11 Elite on with my level 9 Human Paladin and kicked his ass. He’s not nearly as scary as he’s made out to be. Well, either that or Paladins are OP. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=136) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=138)