# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 138
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2741 "2009-07-08T20:17:28Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Whoa, grats on getting the Worgen! They’ve already hotfixed it so that you can’t tame him, and it won’t work like a normal pet anymore, either. Assuming they don’t completely remove the pet from the game, are you going to keep it for a vanity pet while running around in cities? (I would!) > > Did you level those toons back when we didn’t get our first mount until 40? I’m almost certain the letter was something they introduced when they lowered the level requirement to 30–I don’t remember getting one on my main, but I have gotten them on the other toons since then. The Worgen is very broken right now. ☹ It takes up the same “space” as a traditional hunter pet (i.e., it shows up next to your portrait where a hunter pet would, as well as displaying on your character panel as your “pet” (not companion/minipet), has no talents or attacks, cannot be fed. If I can keep it as a minipet, I definitely will. And you’re right, I leveled all of them at least past 30 before the change. I had a mage, paladin, and warrior who were in their mid-30s when that patch went live; no mail notifications for them. I don’t have anyone who’s hit 30 since. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2742 "2009-07-08T20:51:28Z")
> [@Myrrajh](#): > > Speaking of Hogger…one night my guild was bored so we all rolled some level 1 toons and had a parade from Stormwind to Hogger. I hope it was an all-gnome raid! 😃 > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > The Worgen is very broken right now. Yup, that was how Blizzard hotfixed it. By “vanity pet” I didn’t mean in the noncombat pet/“Companion” sense, but in the meaning of “a Hunter pet that doesn’t actually function at all, but looks really, really awesome.” The downside being that it’ll take up a stable slot forever. (Of course, IIRC Hunters are getting at least one more slot soon.) ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2743 "2009-07-08T21:15:29Z")
**SFG** , hope you’re okay now! I’d actually been thinking ‘hey, I haven’t seen SFG post in awhile…’ – Hogger raids are awesome. I saw one on youtube with herds of gnomes and the odd nelf/draenei bystander, and yeah, made of win. In game news, I finally dropped the g to dualspec my retadin to prot last night. 😃 😃 Helped that I’d been skinning and disenchanting just about everything in sight in Northrend for the last push. Now I’m po’ again, but hey, dual spec. (BTW, how come worgen can be skinned? They’re basically werewolves. So I’m always thinking, “Hey, I just skinned Cousin Bob.”) From an UI perspective, fixing my bars wasn’t too bad thanks to Bartender4’s profile function - just create a new one, rearrange buttons and bindings as appropriate, whew. I’d been wondering how that would work with dual spec. Gearwise, all I really had to do was swap weapons and upgrade my ass-ugly purple and teal boots to ones that didn’t clash with my Scarlet Crusade leggings. \*O frabjous day. No more clown suit! **No more clown suit!** \* I’ve been doing a bit of prot pally research, but I’d like to find some good leveling resources for someone who needs to l2tank. Help? EJ and Tankspot are written for 80s, and besides, the latter’s pally stuff isn’t exactly up to date. I’m still figuring out a lvl 44 prot rotation and any advice that you guys can give me would be great. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2744 "2009-07-08T21:56:13Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > **SFG** , hope you’re okay now! [I had a pulmonary embolism](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=523816), actually. 😃 I’m fine now–I’ll just be on anticoagulants for a while (anywhere from a few months to forever, depending). > [@](#): > > BTW, how come worgen can be skinned? They’re basically werewolves. So I’m always thinking, “Hey, I just skinned Cousin Bob.”) That \*\*is \*\*weird. If you’ve noticed, you can’t skin Centaurs, even though there’s totally a Centaur rug in the inn by the Orgrimmar bank. > [@](#): > > No more clown suit! Color me jealous. My 46 Undead Mage has major Clown Suit Syndrome going on at the moment, since her chest piece is a shirt-y type thing instead of a robe-y type thing. > [@](#): > > I’ve been doing a bit of prot pally research, but I’d like to find some good leveling resources for someone who needs to l2tank. Help? EJ and Tankspot are written for 80s, and besides, the latter’s pally stuff isn’t exactly up to date. I’m still figuring out a lvl 44 prot rotation and any advice that you guys can give me would be great. Never played a Prot Pally, and their mechanics are really different from Warriors. All I know is you want to do something called a 696 or 969 rotation, which has something to do with fitting together your 6-second and 9-second cooldowns. Prot Pallies are actually one of the few classes that still have a rotation versus a priority list, AFAIK. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2745 "2009-07-08T21:58:26Z")
I’m on Kirin Tor with both my Alliance and Horde toons. My hunter hit 70 last night, and since I don’t have WOTLK yet, poof went my XP bar. I switched over to my draenei paladin to work on her till I get WOTLK which should be a week or so. She’d been sitting patiently in the Exodar for a while, so my rested XP lasted nearly two full levels before it ran out. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2746 "2009-07-08T22:03:54Z")
Grats on 70, **Tel**! And you’re gonna have soooooo much fun with Wrath. ---
**Author:** ![Animastryfe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Animastryfe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Animastryfe)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2747 "2009-07-08T22:08:13Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **THAT** makes me feel a WHOLE lot better:) **jayjay**! I’m doing a lot of “compensating” these days (“fakin’ it”), and I have been VERY reluctant to tell y’all that, because we talked about it early on in my gaming…:o You definitely don’t have to worry about that for now. For any game, I’m one of those players who likes to read about everything. So when I played, I turned into a semi-expert on level 60 pvp (before Burning Crusade) when my rogue was still in the 40s. Needless to say, I mastered hotkeys very quickly. You should only worry about hotkeys if you’re PvPing and you’re comfortable with how the game works, or probably once you’re in some of the harder instances/raids. Same thing with addons. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2748 "2009-07-08T22:13:30Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > I’m on Kirin Tor with both my Alliance and Horde toons. > > My hunter hit 70 last night, and since I don’t have WOTLK yet, poof went my XP bar. I switched over to my draenei paladin to work on her till I get WOTLK which should be a week or so. She’d been sitting patiently in the Exodar for a while, so my rested XP lasted nearly two full levels before it ran out. Grats! I agree, Wrath’s a ton of fun. And I’d also suggest at least rolling a DK and taking it through the starting zone for the epic story alone, even if you don’t play it any further than that. Where else can you say hi to Arthas in person without getting dead (again) in very short order? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2749 "2009-07-08T22:23:16Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > Grats! I agree, Wrath’s a ton of fun. > > And I’d also suggest at least rolling a DK and taking it through the starting zone for the epic story alone, even if you don’t play it any further than that. Where else can you say hi to Arthas in person without getting dead (again) in very short order? 😃 Hee! I’ll definitely make a death knight, if for nothing but finding out the story. My SO has a death knight he doesn’t play, but promises to start again if I have one. I think he plans on us wreaking a path of destruction through the land together. He’s such a romantic. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2750 "2009-07-08T22:53:06Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > Hee! I’ll definitely make a death knight, if for nothing but finding out the story. My SO has a death knight he doesn’t play, but promises to start again if I have one. I think he plans on us wreaking a path of destruction through the land together. He’s such a romantic. “Tish! That’s Thalassian!” ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2751 "2009-07-08T23:02:17Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > Hee! I’ll definitely make a death knight, if for nothing but finding out the story. They have an awesome starting plotline! Plus it was the first time I’d seen “phasing” in action - if you don’t know what it is, I’ll just say it’s cool. 😃 I’m tempted to start another DK on another server just to go through it again. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2752 "2009-07-08T23:04:36Z")
Mean, mean, mean! I decided shooting for the epic flier right off the bat was too ambitious, so I turned my sights on the regular Engineer flier. Turns out the regular takes nearly as much effort; where the epic requires a ton of Khorium, the regular requires revered with a faction I’ve barely even spoken to yet in order to get a particular recipe. Still, after raiding the Auction House, I’m nearly there. Just 3 more Primal Fires for the epic and that rep grind for the regular, and I’m good to go. Good thing I took the rest of this week off. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2753 "2009-07-08T23:21:51Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Mean, mean, mean! I decided shooting for the epic flier right off the bat was too ambitious, so I turned my sights on the regular Engineer flier. Turns out the regular takes nearly as much effort; where the epic requires a ton of Khorium, the regular requires revered with a faction I’ve barely even spoken to yet in order to get a particular recipe. Thing is, before they changed the mount system in Wrath, you needed the normal flying machine to craft the epic one. So the materials you need build the epic flying machine now, are what was required to turbo charge the normal one pre-wrath. And yes, you can see the Hula Girl Doll 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2754 "2009-07-08T23:21:57Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Mean, mean, mean! I decided shooting for the epic flier right off the bat was too ambitious, so I turned my sights on the regular Engineer flier. Turns out the regular takes nearly as much effort; where the epic requires a ton of Khorium, the regular requires revered with a faction I’ve barely even spoken to yet in order to get a particular recipe. What? I think I just had to talk to the Engineering flying trainer out in Shadowmoon Village (as a Hordie) to train for either one. Have they changed that, or have I forgotten something? ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2755 "2009-07-08T23:27:54Z")
**Ferret Herder** , he is talking about the Elemental Seaforium Charge that you can get at revered with the Consortium and is needed for the normal Flying Machine. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2756 "2009-07-08T23:30:14Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > **Ferret Herder** , he is talking about the Elemental Seaforium Charge that you can get at revered with the Consortium and is needed for the normal Flying Machine. Quite. Actually getting the schematic for the flier is easy. The mats are something else again. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2757 "2009-07-08T23:40:05Z")
The mats for the normal one aren’t that bad really(if you got the Consortium rep that is), it’s basically just a whole lot Fel Iron and a bit of Adamantite, I think I even made 2 or 3 extra to get the last skill points on my dwarf hunter. Now, the Khorium and Eternium needed for the epic one is a whole other matter. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2758 "2009-07-08T23:47:38Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Quite. Actually getting the schematic for the flier is easy. The mats are something else again. Check the auction house for the charges or see if you have a friend who did this before you. I didn’t grind the rep for those; I just asked my guildie who had already. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2759 "2009-07-09T04:44:45Z")
Levelled to 30 tonight, and am ridin’, y’all! 🙂 I tried to get a side view, but everytime I turned her to the side, when I turned loose, she’d straighten up again. [http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkiehorse.jpg](http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkiehorse.jpg) Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2760 "2009-07-09T07:09:22Z")
Also wanted to add, that had it not been for the advice I got from y’all on this thread, I’d still be chuggin’ away at 14-15. You guys have really helped me a lot, and I thank you. Quasi [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=137) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=139)