# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 143
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2841 "2009-07-10T03:33:01Z")
Well, crap, guys. The mass of this thread has grown so large it’s begun attracting satellite real-money trolls. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2842 "2009-07-10T05:22:51Z")
Say, does anybody know if there’s a hotkey to level out my flight (or swimming)? I’m getting so freakin’ tired of inadvertently tapping my right mouse button and suddenly finding myself diving at the ground or climb-climb-climbing into the sky! The only way I’ve found to “reset” to perfectly level flight, short of logging out and back in again, is to grab a flight from a gryphon/hippogryph master. If I’m flying over something naturally level, like water, I can kinda sorta get things leveled out, but there isn’t always a convenient body of water nearby. ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2843 "2009-07-10T14:45:12Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > Oh, yes! One of my big regrets in WoW is the fact that that quest isn’t a daily. I would be over there every day rescuing herds of baby Murlocs just so I could have them following me around. Not only are the li’l ones adorable, but if you try to rescue them when you -don’t- have the quest, they’re pretty darn smart! They say things like ‘no go with stranger!’ and ‘you not momma!’ Obviously very well-trained. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2844 "2009-07-10T14:57:15Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Ah…I never encountered Gruul. 25-man raid. I only got to run him once, though. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > I have decided to call my Chestnut Mare: _ **Silka** _. [snip explanation] I like it! And it’s nice to know there’s someone else who puts as much thought into naming characters etc. as I do. (I don’t name my mounts, though–just my toons and Hunter pets). Oh, and! I thought of you yesterday when I dropped the Shaman I’m leveling to turn into a 19 twink off at the inn in Westfall. Innkeeper Heather told me she was “Open for business.” :eek: > [@Telperien](#): > > I have created a troll hunter, Zoraili, and look forward to encountering other Dopers there and joining the guild, if y’all wouldn’t mind having a new hunter. No, I’m afraid I’m the only Troll Hunter allowed. We have a quota of one. 😃 > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Say, does anybody know if there’s a hotkey to level out my flight (or swimming)? Are you controlling your movement entirely with the keyboard? Try using your mouse, instead. Hold down your left mouse button, aim the camera where you want to go, add the right mouse button (both mouse buttons = you move in the direction you’re looking), and hit the autorun key (I have mine bound to the thumb button on my mouse). Easy-peasy. ---
**Author:** ![Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Words_on_the_Interweb)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2845 "2009-07-10T17:06:00Z")
I believe the pitch-up and pitch-down keybindings also control the angle of flight and swimming. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2846 "2009-07-10T17:12:05Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I don’t \*\*seek out \*\*PvP, so I don’t watch the defense channels, but I \*\*will \*\*help if I’m in the area and someone’s ganking NPCs or lowbies. Ditto. I don’t pay attention to the local defense channels, but when someone announces in the local channel that some twit is killing the questgivers, I’ll usually rush in and take him out (or try, anyway). > [@Quasimodem](#): > > My favorite vendor is the one I call “Clint”: He goes (in a low tone): “What can **I** do for **you**?”, and then when you end the transaction: “ **For** the Alliance!” The one that amuses me is the dwarven flightmaster in Ironforge. You ask him to fly you to somewhere, he puts you on a griffin, and as you’re flying away he says “Keep your feet on the ground!” > [@jayjay](#): > > Oh, and by this time in my WoW life that “Mrrglglglglllgllglgllglglg!” of the murlocs is like a knife through my heart. I hear it and everything goes red…I hate murlocs… > > Well, except for those baby ones in Borean Tundra. They may possibly be the cutest damn things in the whole game. I hate murlocs, too, but that quest chain was AWESOME. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2847 "2009-07-10T17:12:10Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Are you controlling your movement entirely with the keyboard? Try using your mouse, instead. Hold down your left mouse button, aim the camera where you want to go, add the right mouse button (both mouse buttons = you move in the direction you’re looking), and hit the autorun key (I have mine bound to the thumb button on my mouse). Easy-peasy. This sounds like you’re suggesting using the mouse to manually re-level my flight. Unfortunately, that’s where my problem is _starting_: with the mouse. When I’m on the ground (on foot), I’ll use right-click & hold to rotate my toon so that she’s aligned better with a fish school or with an opponent in combat. When using a ground mount I’ll occasionally use the mouse right-click to steer across a narrow bridge, just because with the speed involved, the keyboard steering isn’t precise enough (actually, the problem using the keyboard there is that it wants to rotate _too quickly_, so where I may want to just correct my forward course by a couple degrees, tapping the right- or left-turn directional key gets me a 10-degree turn, and depending on how narrow the bridge or ledge is and how far it is to the ground below, that is undesirable 😃 ) The problem is that it’s basically impossible to _only_ rotate left and right using the mouse. There’s going to also be some small degree of up or down rotation as well - it can’t be helped. If you’re standing on the ground it isn’t noticeable, but for whatever reason the game “remembers” the up/down angle until you somehow clear it. So I can be on the ground and unintentionally change my up/down angle with the right mouse button, and never notice until I summon my flying mount. Then I launch myself into the air, and as soon as I take my finger off the “ascend” directional key (space bar by default), the angle determined by my mouse right-click takes over again and, depending on the last up/down angle I unknowingly set, suddenly I’m descending again, or continuing to climb. So that’s why, when I’m flying, I prefer to use only the keyboard. That way, as soon as I release the “ascend” or “descend” key, my bird returns to level flight. What I’m looking for is a key that will automatically and instantly “zero” my up/down angle so that, when I’m pressing just the “forward” key, my bird maintains perfectly level flight. Agreed, I can sort of do this with the mouse while holding the right button down, but without some sort of visual meter to tell me where “zero” is, I can’t get it precisely level and I have to continue making up & down adjustments while I fly. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2848 "2009-07-10T17:14:37Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Anyway, while doing lowbie quests in Redridge Mountains I came across a wounded soldier in a cave, and accepted the mission to escort him back to Lakeshire. He was wrapped in bandages, and it just so happened that my paladin’s “shirt” was the “Antiseptic-Soaked Bandages” from the first aid shop in Dalaran. So I stripped her chest armor, shoulders, and gloves off so that she and the soldier would match on their way back to Lakeshire 😃 > > [Here’s the video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9wdKnYl1G0)! > > (Yeah, kinda boring, but at least at the end it shows off my armor and tabard.) Cool! I’m always glad to see that I’m not the only one who dropped the gold on the Antiseptic-Soaked Bandages (I also bought the non-antiseptic-soaked version). When I bought them (they’re like 24g each, IIRC) I kind of thought, “wow, I _am_ an RP geek!” But I see people all the time using them as shirts. 🙂 As for the movie, neat. I always enjoy watching WoW movies. I’ve got this really great idea for a machinima that I’m dying to make (it’s a music video based on some of my mage’s history) but I can’t get WoW Model Viewer to work and I need it because I need to have both my Horde mage and some human Scarlet Crusade types I can control inside the Scarlet Monastery. Does anybody know if there’s a version yet that works with WotLK? I’ve tried loading it but I always get errors. Sorry for the hijack, but it occurred to me that there might be folks here who can help me out. ---
**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2849 "2009-07-10T17:19:50Z")
Well, got my BE Paladin on the Caine server, Kalathan, up to level 60 yesterday. \*And \*I managed to do so without having to quest in the two zones that I hate: Un’Goro Crater and Eastern Plaguelands. So now I have to decide how many of the quests currently in my quest log I want to actually finish before I head for Outland and Hellfire Penninsula. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2850 "2009-07-10T17:19:51Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > but without some sort of visual meter to tell me where “zero” is, I can’t get it precisely level and I have to continue making up & down adjustments while I fly. Had to look it up, but “[attitude](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_attitude)” is the term I was looking for, along with “pitch”. I’m ending up with a “nose up attitude” or a “nose down attitude”, and I want a way to correct my mount’s attitude to zero. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2851 "2009-07-10T17:23:15Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > Cool! I’m always glad to see that I’m not the only one who dropped the gold on the Antiseptic-Soaked Bandages (I also bought the non-antiseptic-soaked version). When I bought them (they’re like 24g each, IIRC) I kind of thought, “wow, I _am_ an RP geek!” But I see people all the time using them as shirts. 🙂 I was kind of perplexed by the extremely expensive “Dalaran Nurse’s Gown”. It looks to me to simply be the same robe priests _start out in_, with a minor cutout on the upper arm part of the sleeves. 😕 > [@](#): > > As for the movie, neat. I always enjoy watching WoW movies. I’ve got this really great idea for a machinima that I’m dying to make (it’s a music video based on some of my mage’s history) but I can’t get WoW Model Viewer to work and I need it because I need to have both my Horde mage and some human Scarlet Crusade types I can control inside the Scarlet Monastery. Does anybody know if there’s a version yet that works with WotLK? I’ve tried loading it but I always get errors. Sorry for the hijack, but it occurred to me that there might be folks here who can help me out. I’m kind of bummed that there doesn’t seem to be a functional _Mac_ version of WoW Model Viewer at all. ---
**Author:** ![Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Words_on_the_Interweb)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2852 "2009-07-10T17:31:38Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > So that’s why, when I’m flying, I prefer to use only the keyboard. That way, as soon as I release the “ascend” or “descend” key, my bird returns to level flight. What I’m looking for is a key that will automatically and instantly “zero” my up/down angle so that, when I’m pressing just the “forward” key, my bird maintains perfectly level flight. Agreed, I can sort of do this with the mouse while holding the right button down, but without some sort of visual meter to tell me where “zero” is, I can’t get it precisely level and I have to continue making up & down adjustments while I fly. [Here](http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14498460030&sid=1) is someone’s macro that will set and lock flight angle to 0. It also apparently will lock your camera, which can be unlocked by toggling the macro again. I haven’t tested it, but it sounds promising. ```auto /script if not FlyLevel then FlyLevel = 1 ConsoleExec("pitchlimit 0") else FlyLevel = nil ConsoleExec("pitchlimit 89") end ``` As mentioned above, you can also use the pitch up & pitch down keybindings to manually adjust your flight angle. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2853 "2009-07-10T19:07:13Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > This sounds like you’re suggesting using the mouse to manually re-level my flight. Unfortunately, that’s where my problem is _starting_: with the mouse. Did you actually \*\*try \*\*my instructions? I’m guessing not. Ugh. This is reason #423 that keyboard turning sucks–you never learn how to use your mouse. Go back and re-read what I suggested–you will be directing yourself \*\*exactly \*\*where you want to go, then putting it on autopilot, so you won’t \*\*need \*\*to go up or down after that. You just aim youself at whatever level you want and turn on autorun. Need to adjust the angle again? Just click both mouse buttons, adjust, and put autorun back on. (And it’s even easier if you’ve got an extra mouse key to bind to autorun so that you don’t have to keep leaning over to punch numlock.) (P.S., If you want to keep using the keyboard, consider using the \*\*strafing \*\*keys instead of the \*\*turning \*\*ones for situations where you want to cross a bridge or something else finicky like that.) > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I was kind of perplexed by the extremely expensive “Dalaran Nurse’s Gown”. It looks to me to simply be the same robe priests _start out in_, with a minor cutout on the upper arm part of the sleeves. RP gear. Alternatively, a gold sink for people who really have nothing better to do with their money than deck out their bank alts in crazy outfits. ---
**Author:** ![Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Words_on_the_Interweb)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2854 "2009-07-10T20:50:01Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Mean, mean, mean! I decided shooting for the epic flier right off the bat was too ambitious, so I turned my sights on the regular Engineer flier. Turns out the regular takes nearly as much effort; where the epic requires a ton of Khorium, the regular requires revered with a faction I’ve barely even spoken to yet in order to get a particular recipe. Good news for you, if you haven’t already picked up the Elemental Seaforium Charge; [MMO Champion](http://www.mmo-champion.com/) is reporting an update to 3.2 that includes removal of the requirement for it. > [@](#): > > Engineering > > ``` > * Flying Machine now requires Fel Iron Casing x 2, Elemental Blasting Powder x 20, Handful of Fel Iron Bolts x 20, Star Wood x 8 > > ``` If you can stand to wait. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2855 "2009-07-10T21:12:10Z")
Woo, that’s good news! I’d planned to wait already, since I had no intention of paying 1000 gold for Expert riding when I can pay 480 instead. It requires a lot more Fel Iron than I’d planned on, but that at least isn’t a big issue. I wasn’t looking forward to that rep grind. I would have started on it already, but I’ve been working on a new Gnome Mage in order to play with a friend. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2009, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2856 "2009-07-10T21:37:13Z")
Of course, just because a change is on the current PTR version doesn’t mean it’ll make it into the live patch. But that doesn’t mean you can’t wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2857 "2009-07-11T00:24:59Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I like it! And it’s nice to know there’s someone else who puts as much thought into naming characters etc. as I do. (I don’t name my mounts, though–just my toons and Hunter pets). > > Oh, and! I thought of you yesterday when I dropped the Shaman I’m leveling to turn into a 19 twink off at the inn in Westfall. Innkeeper Heather told me she was “Open for business.” :eek: Why, that brazen **Huffy**! I knew _something_ was up when I’d return after a hard night of fighting the “Undies” (what I call “The Undead”), sidle up next to her and that hand of hers would come through my male crotchal area and out the other side! Guess I just wasn’t enough, but if she’d just _said somethin’_, hell, I woulda come around more often. Now you’ve got me worried about those guys at the saw-mill, and all that “wood”. Still, me and Wolkie love her, and when we hearth, we always land right at her side, sitting down, and her hand is always on top of our head, patting it. Can I buy stuff for Silka, to make her saddle and other accoutrements look nice, or is the game that sophisticated? Thanks for the smiles, **SFG**! Can you tell I’m REALLY into RPG’s? Quasi ---
**Author:** ![GameHat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ed655f/32.png) [@GameHat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GameHat)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2858 "2009-07-11T01:15:49Z")
Dunno if this has been posted: Pure genius - [Illegal Danish](http://myndflame.gameriot.com/videos/ID3-Prelude#play) A brilliant WoW/Starcraft mashup. Helps if you’ve seen the SC2 trailer. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2859 "2009-07-11T01:16:17Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Why, that brazen **Huffy**! I knew _something_ was up when I’d return after a hard night of fighting the “Undies” (what I call “The Undead”), sidle up next to her and that hand of hers would come through my male crotchal area and out the other side! > > Guess I just wasn’t enough, but if she’d just _said somethin’_, hell, I woulda come around more often. > > Now you’ve got me worried about those guys at the saw-mill, and all that “wood”. > > Still, me and Wolkie love her, and when we hearth, we always land right at her side, sitting down, and her hand is always on top of our head, patting it. > > Can I buy stuff for Silka, to make her saddle and other accoutrements look nice, or is the game that sophisticated? > > Thanks for the smiles, **SFG**! Can you tell I’m REALLY into RPG’s? > > Quasi Unfortunately, you can’t fancy up your horse or other mounts. Mounts you get later will be fancier (like the armored chargers) but you can’t add stuff to them. There is a holiday item, Holly, I think, which will make Silka look like a reindeer, which might be amusing. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2009, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2860 "2009-07-11T03:16:53Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Woo, that’s good news! I’d planned to wait already, since I had no intention of paying 1000 gold for Expert riding when I can pay 480 instead. It requires a lot more Fel Iron than I’d planned on, but that at least isn’t a big issue. I wasn’t looking forward to that rep grind. I just relied on an engineer guildie who’s obsessive about rep grinding. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=142) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=144)