# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 148
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2941 "2009-07-15T16:18:18Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I think they can take a boat down to Theramore Isle. Or catch the boat from Booty Bay to Ratchet or the Tanaris seaport area (I think). Right. Stormwind -\> Darnassus and Menethil Harbor (north of IF) -\> Theramore Isle. Two points roughly in the middle of EK lead to points at the north and south of Kalimdor, so it’s not too bad. And Booty Bay leads to Ratchet, not Tanaris, which annoys me. It seems like there _should_ be passage to and from Steamwheedle Port. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2942 "2009-07-15T16:52:46Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Summing them up gives 1490g for training every Druid skill (278 skills) and 729g for every Warrior skill (117 skills). Wow. That is absolutely not what I had expected. I would have assumed higher per-skill costs for classes that have fewer skills to train so that total costs would equal out. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > 1. Can a lake be “fished out”? I stood by the banks of Crystal Lake for 10 minutes w/ my pole and didn’t see one bob floating. I know they’re supposed to respawn, but I saw nothing but fireflies on that lake. Thinking of unlearning my fishing skill anyway. Can that be done and how? 1.) You have to actually use the fishing skill to fish. Just standing by a body of water with a pole equipped doesn’t count. 2.) Schools of fish can be fished out, in which case they disappear, but the body of water contains infinite fish. A school is a node that spawns on the surface of the water–it looks like a translucent circle. Casting your bobber into the circle will cause you to fish up whatever is in the node (e.g., an Oily Blackmouth School will drop mostly Oily Blackmouth). There is no way to aim your bobber–you just have to keep casting until it lands where you want it to land. 3.) Primary professions (the ones you can only have two of) can be unlearned. Secondary professions (Cooking, Fishing, and First Aid) can never be unlearned, but you can just ignore them if you have them and don’t want them. They don’t take up a profession slot, so you don’t lose anything by having them. > [@](#): > > 1. Looted a lockbox tonight and need lockpicking skill to open it. The locksmith in Dwarven only said he “might” have a key when I right-clicked him. No mention of training, and I only have blacksmithing as my profession right now. Can I “hire” it done? Lockpicking as a skill is only available to the Rogue class. However, Blacksmiths can learn to make keys that will open locks, and Engineers can make charges that will blow them open. If your Blacksmithing isn’t high enough to make the key you need, you can pay someone to open the box for you. Try asking in Trade chat in a capital city. If you watch Trade, you will often see people advertising lockpicking services. > [@Jolly\_Roger](#): > > Do they still have server transfers? AFAIK, there are no \*\*free \*\*server transfers currently available, and the odds of one happening anytime soon and being for the exact servers and faction you need are so slim they’re close to nil. However, you may at any time pay $25 to transfer a character between servers (as long as the destination server isn’t locked–usually the only locked servers are ones less than three months old). If you don’t remember moving the character, it wouldn’t hurt to double-check to make sure your toons still have all their equipment, gold, etc. There’s a small chance that you were hacked and someone else moved the char, in which case Blizzard could move it back and restore any lost items and gold. > [@FlightlessBird](#): > > Although don’t Alliance have to sit through a ridiculously long flight since the only major cities on Kalimdor is Darnassus/Asuremyst (all the way at the top)? I guess it’s no worse than Horde in E.Kingdoms. IMO, it’s worse–Darnassus is further north than UC, and UC has a zep to STV. Fortunately, there’s a CoT portal in Dalaran, so at least we can just ride to Gadget from there and then hop a taxi if we need to go somewhere in the southern half of the continent. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2943 "2009-07-15T18:38:20Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > [For Quasi’s benefit] > The reason people get ported to Shattrath or Dalaran while still too low for any of the content out there, is purely so they have access to the major city portals. If you set your hearthstone in Dalaran, then when you are questing and you need to get from one continent to the other, you can hearth to Dalaran and use the portal to the other city. Basically it saves time so you don’t have to use the boats. > Although don’t Alliance have to sit through a ridiculously long flight since the only major cities on Kalimdor is Darnassus/Asuremyst (all the way at the top)? I guess it’s no worse than Horde in E.Kingdoms. To get from Darnassus to Tanaris/Ungoro/Silithis can be a tedious expedition in of itself. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2944 "2009-07-15T19:07:37Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > To get from Darnassus to Tanaris/Ungoro/Silithis can be a tedious expedition in of itself. It’s not as bad if you’re starting from Dalaran. There’s a portal to the Caverns of Time (Tanaris) in the Violet Citadel (to the left at the top of the stairs inside). If you’ve got enough rep with Keepers of Time (I think Revered+), there’s also an NPC who will port you from Shattrath. You’ve then got to run to Gadgetzan, but a few minutes on a mount beats a quarter-hour on a taxi. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2945 "2009-07-15T19:12:35Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > You’ve then got to run to Gadgetzan, but a few minutes on a mount beats a quarter-hour on a taxi. If you’ve got the fast ground riding skill, it’s not even a FEW minutes, really. It’s only a little bit farther from Gadgetzan than Steamwheedle Port is. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2946 "2009-07-15T20:25:43Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > If you’ve got the fast ground riding skill, it’s not even a FEW minutes, really. It’s only a little bit farther from Gadgetzan than Steamwheedle Port is. Yeah, I realized it was hyperbolic after I posted it, but the run is always a mild pain in the ass, since there’s a giant rock \*\*right in the middle \*\*that means I can’t just stay on autorun the whole way. It’s maybe a minute or two. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2947 "2009-07-15T20:32:30Z")
⭕o:o I HAVE been just standing there with the damn pole. Thanks, everyone for the answers and advice! Gonna seek out the same territory that “shimmy” and I went there a few nights ago, and where I failed to establish a flight path. More ⭕o:o Q ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2948 "2009-07-15T20:40:41Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I HAVE been just standing there with the damn pole. Hit “P” to bring up your ability book, and in the General tab there should be an icon that looks like a worm on a hook, which IIRC is called “Fishing.” (Shocking, I know.) Drag that to a free spot on an action bar, and click that. If you don’t get an error message (such as “Your cast didn’t last in fishable water” or “Target not in line of sight”), you’ll see your bobber appear on the water. There will also be a “Fishing” countdown bar. When you get something on the line, there will be a splashing sound and the bobber will dip. Right-click the bobber (you’ll get a gold action cogwheel when you mouseover it) and you should have a fish (or a piece of trash, or one of the random things you can occasionally pick up, like Stranglekelp). ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2949 "2009-07-15T20:46:13Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > ⭕o:o > > I HAVE been just standing there with the damn pole. Once you buy the skill from a (fishing) profession trainer, you’ll get a new icon in your skill book. It is a worm on a hook. You should transfer that icon to your hot bar. You may have noticed that your Auto-attack button always shows the weapon (or, in this case, the item) you have equipped. Right clicking on (the pole in) the “autoattack” hotbar button will not initiate a cast/fishing actions. You must click on the fishing action icon, whether it is in your skill book, or on your hot bar, to start fishing. Damn. I is slow. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2950 "2009-07-15T20:56:30Z")
Frickin’ hell, these people suck. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2951 "2009-07-15T20:58:33Z")
Heh. She/he started his/her own spam thread, too. ---
**Author:** ![Alptraume21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Alptraume21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alptraume21)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2952 "2009-07-15T21:10:01Z")
I so wish I could still play WoW e.e I miss it. Killing things was good for stress. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2953 "2009-07-15T21:11:06Z")
[mod hat on] Just so people reading the thread aren’t thrown off, I killed a WoW gold spammer post just above **Bosstone** ’s last post in the thread. It’s the spammers that suck, not the person who wrote the post above that! Carry on. [mod hat off] ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2954 "2009-07-15T21:17:51Z")
I think I led them here, y’all. I AM sorry! ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2955 "2009-07-15T21:19:42Z")
> [@InvisibleWombat](#): > > [mod hat on] > Just so people reading the thread aren’t thrown off, I killed a WoW gold spammer post just above **Bosstone** ’s last post in the thread. It’s the spammers that suck, not the person who wrote the post above that! > > Carry on. > [mod hat off] (Underlining mine.) You hear that, **Bosstone**? You may no longer make any further posts in this thread. (I, of course, am joking.) ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2956 "2009-07-15T21:19:44Z")
Nah, it’s not you, **Quasi**. They’d show up anywhere that WoW was being discussed. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2957 "2009-07-15T21:22:38Z")
I wonder how much money the gold-spam industry makes. WoW (one of the largest MMO’s) has 11 million players, or so. If 1/10 of a percent of those players pay $40 for their services, that’s $440,000. Is there any “real” numbers reported for that “industry”? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2958 "2009-07-15T21:22:41Z")
Right. Since the SDMB is now open to search engines like Google, the gold sellers found us when doing searches for mentions of Warcraft. Very annoying, and I haven’t the first clue how to get rid of them. They’re like ants. Squish one and five more appear. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2959 "2009-07-15T21:24:58Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > ⭕o:o > > I HAVE been just standing there with the damn pole. > Q Ah…brings back memories! 🙂 I did this on my first toon…though I think I’d gone one step further: I equipped the pole and hit the fishing button but never clicked on the bobber. I wondered why I never got any fish… ---
**Author:** ![Alptraume21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Alptraume21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alptraume21)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/2960 "2009-07-15T21:31:57Z")
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