# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 158
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3141 "2009-07-21T13:49:55Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Okay, PLEASE don’t think I’m being deliberately obtuse, but when I am in an instance and no one rezzes me, aren’t I already lying there? Do I wake up myself then after 6 minutes have passed? > > I _think_ what you’re saying is that I can get up, take a look at my mini-map and run to where my corpse is? > > I have started doing the other when I am on a solo quest. I had gotten lazy and didn’t realize that not only was I getting sick, so was my gear! ;):smack: If you’re in an instance and everyone dies/your rezzing class dies, and you’re expected to release, then just hit that “release” button from the option that pops up, ignore the Spirit Healer completely, and run back into the instance door, following the minimap (there should be a big arrow pointing your way, but it’ll point directly to the corpse and not to the door of the instance - **hit M to check the big map to be sure you find your way into the door** ). Once you’re inside the instance, you will magically have all your gear back on and be at partial health, but without any “rez sickness”. If you’re soloing and think you can safely run back to your body, run back, and when you get close to the corpse, you’ll see a box pop up that says “Resurrect Now? [Accept]” If you get too far from the corpse, the box disappears. Look around your immediate area to be sure no monsters are near, then hit Accept. This will put you at partial health, no rez sickness. Bandage or eat up quick! If you’re soloing and you know you died in the middle of a bunch of monsters, you might just want to rez at the Spirit Healer. You’re probably smartest then to wait out the 10 minutes or so of rez sickness (usually waiting in the graveyard is safe), because you’ll be really weak. (Next time you rez at the Spirit Healer, hit C to check your character stats and look at all the low, red numbers! That will go away with time.) ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3142 "2009-07-21T13:56:21Z")
I have to post my adventure from last night with my 78 hunter: I did something stupid, but found out something cool in the process: I fell off the **Break the Blockade** airship! I had my camera angle reversed, and walked forward when I meant to walk back, and down I went. But I didn’t give up…I swam to an iceberg and summoned my gryphon. Once in the air, I wondered… …and landed and dismounted on one of the pirate ships! I fought hand-to-hand, and got credit (for the quest) for each pirate kill. I then tossed those bombs they give you for the quest, and was blowing up both cannons and pirates while actually being on the boat…you don’t need to ride the airship at all !! I’m now running dailies more frequently than actual quests, even though I have gazillions more quests to do (I’m questing Grizzly Hills at the moment). My daily set typically includes Dalaran cooking, Planning for the Future (rescue pups), the walrus love one for the Kalu’ak, the helicopter/gargoyle one at Steel Gate, and the aforementioned Break the Blockade. I may start doing the “burn the corpses” one as well. Any other daily recommendations in the same general area (Alliance)? ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3143 "2009-07-21T14:00:54Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > I fish on Medivh, alliance, but nobody buys premade food on my server apparently - I put it up for sale, underpricing everybody and it never sells =( Really? I just started listing the partial stacks of cooked fish i have after finishing the fishing dailies and they sell for almost 1g/fish. That’s on Medivh/alliance, too. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3144 "2009-07-21T14:15:35Z")
You really can’t just blow straight through the Old World zones without going and levelling up some place else, can you? I’ve been working on my lowbie Horde priest (not to be confused with my lowbie Alliance priest) and went from Ghostlands to Ashenvale by way of Shadowfang Keep, starting at level 22. So I ran all the way over to the Zoran Strand (and oh my god level 20 mounts can’t come soon enough), where I was massacring monsters 3 levels lower than me, soloing a group quest, and generally having good times. Then the next set of quests features level 24 enemies… then the next level 26… and then I’m fighting level 27 satyrs at level 23 myself (along with a 24 mage who was picking them off one by one with all kinds of tricksy freeze/blink kinda stuff before I showed up) and anyway I think I need to go somewhere else for a couple levels and come back. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3145 "2009-07-21T14:34:01Z")
> [@Raza](#): > > I did something stupid, but found out something cool in the process: I fell off the **Break the Blockade** airship! I had my camera angle reversed, and walked forward when I meant to walk back, and down I went. > > But I didn’t give up…I swam to an iceberg and summoned my gryphon. Once in the air, I wondered… > > …and landed and dismounted on one of the pirate ships! I fought hand-to-hand, and got credit (for the quest) for each pirate kill. I then tossed those bombs they give you for the quest, and was blowing up both cannons and pirates while actually being on the boat…you don’t need to ride the airship at all !! Yep! I just recently encountered that particular quest this week. You can only use the cluster bombs while on the airship, but the questgiver doesn’t care how the pirates die as long as they do. Course, being without a flying mount I need to be verrrry careful about not falling off. On that note: My _god_, Howling Fjord is pretty. The bay with Valgarde and Utgarde Keep is easily one of the most awesome spectacles I’ve seen in the game yet, and that includes Hellfire Peninsula. The funny thing is I had no idea; when I first traveled to Northrend I went to Borean Tundra. It’s neat, but nothing really special. Eventually I started hitting level 72 quests while still barely halfway through level 70, and although I don’t share my GF’s neurosis for only doing quests at her level or below, some of it’s rubbed off on me anyway and I got nervous about outpacing myself. So I went over to HF to do the early quests there, and my jaw went slack. The inbound boat ride, the _view_…man, that must have been cool for the first wave of people to go there after Lich King launched. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3146 "2009-07-21T14:40:20Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > You really can’t just blow straight through the Old World zones without going and levelling up some place else, can you? I’ve been working on my lowbie Horde priest (not to be confused with my lowbie Alliance priest) and went from Ghostlands to Ashenvale by way of Shadowfang Keep, starting at level 22. So I ran all the way over to the Zoran Strand (and oh my god level 20 mounts can’t come soon enough), where I was massacring monsters 3 levels lower than me, soloing a group quest, and generally having good times. Then the next set of quests features level 24 enemies… then the next level 26… and then I’m fighting level 27 satyrs at level 23 myself (along with a 24 mage who was picking them off one by one with all kinds of tricksy freeze/blink kinda stuff before I showed up) and anyway I think I need to go somewhere else for a couple levels and come back. IMO, generally, once you hit your 20’s, you’ll have to alternate back and forth between a couple zones while leveling. (How did you get to Ashenvale from Shadowfang Keep? Different continents, and all.) For Horde, Hillsbrad (Tarren Mill), Stonetalon, Camp TJ (in the mid south Barrens) all beckon to you as alternate areas. ---
**Author:** ![Raza](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raza/32/213_2.png) [@Raza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raza)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3147 "2009-07-21T14:54:26Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > You can only use the cluster bombs while on the airship You’d think, but that’s not what I found - I was standing on the pirate ship, throwing the cluster bombs, and getting quest-credited kills on both pirates and cannons. Obviously, this is only practical with a flying mount/level 77+. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3148 "2009-07-21T15:04:32Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > IMO, generally, once you hit your 20’s, you’ll have to alternate back and forth between a couple zones while leveling. > > (How did you get to Ashenvale from Shadowfang Keep? Different continents, and all.) Well, I finished up Ghostlands and was doing the messenger quests (2 to Lady Sylvanas and 1 to Thrall) when someone invited me to an SFK run, so I did that on the way to Org. Then I went to Ashenvale mainly 'cause I’ve levelled a few characters in Tarren Mill already and never done Ashenvale. Guess I’ll zip down to Stonetalon or Camp T for a bit. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3149 "2009-07-21T15:18:10Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Well, I finished up Ghostlands and was doing the messenger quests (2 to Lady Sylvanas and 1 to Thrall) when someone invited me to an SFK run, so I did that on the way to Org. Then I went to Ashenvale mainly 'cause I’ve levelled a few characters in Tarren Mill already and never done Ashenvale. Guess I’ll zip down to Stonetalon or Camp T for a bit. Sorry. I hope you don’t feel I was picking on you. I have played a few Horde, and I don’t recall any natural progression or pointers between Silverpine and Ashenvale. From the Barrens to Ashenvale, yes, but not from Silverpine. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3150 "2009-07-21T15:22:11Z")
No problem. It’s just a bit of a shock - After levelling my first 80, the next character I levelled up was a Death Knight, so I’ve had several months of the Outlands/Northrend-style questing where you can pretty much run one zone straight through before moving on to the next. I’d forgotten that you had to flip around the map (or run instances) in the Old World. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3151 "2009-07-21T15:32:31Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > No problem. It’s just a bit of a shock - After levelling my first 80, the next character I levelled up was a Death Knight, so I’ve had several months of the Outlands/Northrend-style questing where you can pretty much run one zone straight through before moving on to the next. I’d forgotten that you had to flip around the map (or run instances) in the Old World. Yeah, I’ve had the same experience on the Gnome Mage I’ve been working up. I’m still learning how to solo with a mage, so I’m trying to be cautious and keep the quests I’m working on below my level. That means I’ve had to basically go Dun Morogh -\> Elwynn Forest -\> Loch Modan -\> Azuremyst Isle -\> Bloodmyst Isle -\> Back to Loch Modan at level 20. I managed to avoid Westfall, thank god. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Lurker\_Above](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Lurker\_Above](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Lurker_Above)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3152 "2009-07-21T15:34:48Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Dinging 50 on my pally means Crusader Strike, Holy Wrath and a trip to Western Plaguelands to slaughter undead. I’ll get my first chance at a run out Wednesday night and I can’t wait. I gotta tell you, if you’re willing to respec to prot, there is _nothing_ as crazy as a 50ish prot pally AOEing Sorrow Hill (and some other spots) in WPL. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3153 "2009-07-21T16:06:02Z")
Hey While waiting for the latest patches, I thought I would do a search on “WoW for Dummies”, and this kid’s podcast came up, and I wanted to see what y’all thought: [http://wowfordummies.mypodcast.com/2009/02/WoW\_for\_Dummiesepisode\_1intro-180992.html](http://wowfordummies.mypodcast.com/2009/02/WoW_for_Dummiesepisode_1intro-180992.html) I know he says “y’know” a lot, but he seems very helpful, so I thought I would give him a listen, unless y’all know of a better site? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3154 "2009-07-21T16:29:15Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > I can’t be sure, but after some post-wipe research I think that what we were doing wrong was not interrupting the spiders with the _yoink_ webbing (or was it the ones that spouted the poison debuff?) before they could get it off. Am I wrong? The druid said that she’d never been able to find a group that could get through OK, so it wasn’t just this group… I remember those groups being a pain in the ass to pull, since they never want to come all at once, but I’d just drag them around until I got 'em all in one spot while we burned through 'em. Never wiped to them that I can recall, though. > [@twilly80](#): > > What do you mean? I was making a joke that you should use the trust of a friend to gather information on them that they would prefer to keep private, then threaten to reveal that information unless they agree to play with you on a level 80 character that would complement yours. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Thanks for the note about “release”, but just to be sure, am I supposed to SEE the healer, decline their invite to rez me, run to my body, and then run back to where everyone is? **How to Recover from Death in World of Warcraft** \*\*1.) \*\*You die. \*\*2.) \*\*The “Release” button pops up. \*\*3a.) \*\*If you are in an instance or a group with someone who can rez who is still alive, ignore the Release button and wait for them to rez you. After you push the “Accept” button that will pop up after the rez finishes casting, you will resurrect on top of where that person was standing while casting their resurrection spell. Congrats, you’re alive and can ignore #3b through 6. \*\*3b.) \*\*If you are alone, or if you are in an instance where all the rezzers are dead, you hit the Release button. \*\*4.) \*\*You have now been released from your corpse, and your ghost spawns in front of the Spirit Healer at the nearest graveyard. \*\*5a.) \*\*If you are alone, run back to your body. When you get close, a “Resurrect” box will pop up in the same place as the “Release” box was before. You will be able to resurrect anywhere within a certain radius of your body. If there are still enemies by your corpse, try to get somewhere that’s close enough to your body to rez, but not so close to the enemies that they’ll immediately jump on you. \*\*5b.) \*\*If you are in an instance, run back to the entrance of the instance. As soon as you run back through the entrance portal (the swirly doorway you walk through to enter the instance, which triggers the loading screen), you will rez automatically (i.e., you will appear alive on the other side of the portal). \*\*6.) \*\*If you are alone and really stuck (your body is somewhere that you can’t get to it, or it’s absolutely surrounded by enemies such that you’d have to die a few more times to get away with them), then you can skip #5 and just ask the Spirit Healer to rez you. But that should be your last choice–it gives you up to 10 minutes of Rez Sickness, depending on your level (lowers all your stats and damage, so you really can’t fight anything without getting killed again) and an extra 25% hit to the durability of all equipment you’re carrying, whether you’re wearing it or it’s in your bags. **About Durability:** All weapons and most armor, except for jewelry and trinkets, have a stat called Durability. Dying to anything but another player costs 10% durability on anything you’re wearing (you can avoid it by being naked). Being rezzed by a Spirit Healer costs 25% on everything you’re carrying. (There is no extra penalty for being rezzed by a player or running back to rez yourself.) Durability costs money to repair, and when the durability on an item is 0, you get no benefit from equipping it. (You can put it on, but as far as the game is concerned, it’s the same as wearing nothing in that slot.) The better your equipment, the higher the cost to repair it. (For example, one death these days costs me over 10g–and that’s just the 10% loss on what I’m wearing. If I were to rez at a Spirit Healer, the cost of 25% damage to everything in my bags–multiple sets of armor–would be a lot higher.) > [@martu](#): > > So what your saying is that I have somehow managed to ding 50 on my human pally without realising that [Every Man for Himself](http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59752) will remove the Fear effect?? Well, if the Pally is old enough, you’d have an excuse–that Racial is a relatively new one. Humans haven’t always had it. > [@aruvqan](#): > > I have been getting them from fishing off an ice floaty as close to deep water as I can get just off valence Keep … and not out of any spawn pool. You can get them other places, but the drop rate tends to be horrible. > [@aruvqan](#): > > I discard the runecloth as it takes up too much room Check the AH prices on Runecloth for your server and faction. It’s possible that you’re throwing away a \*\*lot \*\*of money. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > You really can’t just blow straight through the Old World zones without going and levelling up some place else, can you? No, you usually have to juggle at least two zones. Some levels lead to more of this than others. It’s not even as bad as it once was–XP requirements have been reduced. > [@Bosstone](#): > > The inbound boat ride, the _view_…man, that must have been cool for the first wave of people to go there after Lich King launched. Oh my, yes. I spent a decent amount of time on my first day just stopping to stare at things. 😃 > [@Quasimodem](#): > > I know he says “y’know” a lot, but he seems very helpful, so I thought I would give him a listen, unless y’all know of a better site? I can’t check it out from work, but I’d say it’s probably worth a listen. Another suggestion I’d have would be to check out [WoW Insider](http://www.wow.com)–they have a specific series of articles aimed at new players, and another for casual players. (The latter is something like “WoW Casually,” but I forget what the first is called, and I can’t look it up from here.) ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3155 "2009-07-21T16:35:37Z")
> [@The\_Lurker\_Above](#): > > I gotta tell you, if you’re willing to respec to prot, there is _nothing_ as crazy as a 50ish prot pally AOEing Sorrow Hill (and some other spots) in WPL. What prot talents are you talking about? I play this char with another pally and he is prot. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3156 "2009-07-21T16:42:45Z")
> [@martu](#): > > So what your saying is that I have somehow managed to ding 50 on my human pally without realising that [Every Man for Himself](http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59752) will remove the Fear effect?? I only thought it would get me out of traps and snares all this time. Reading the tooltip it couldn’t be clearer though could it? > > Removes all movement impairing effects and all effects which cause loss of control of your character. “Cleanse”, if you have it, will also remove a lot of those, and has a considerably shorter cooldown than “Every Man for Himself”. > [@aruvqan](#): > > I have an auction house mule, I send everything to her and just stack the dribbles of stuff, and sell when I have a whole stack - it is great for tradeskills I dont have like the dalaran leather scraps, and ores, or metal ingots … anything not soulbound goes to trehugger for sale eventually. I do that with my toons on Lightbringer, where my lone lvl 80 resides, but in that case I have the advantage of all 10 of my toons there being in the same “vanity guild”. One toon is my “guild bank alt”, so everything gets mailed to her and placed on the AH, with the proceeds being deposited into the GB for use by any of my other toons. My lvl 80 is the only toon there that’s seeing regular play at the moment, though. Any of the “common” ores she mines she just holds in her mining bag, and mails it to my bank alt in stacks of 20 for posting on the AH. The “rare” ores (silver, gold, truesilver, etc) she sends to the alt as she get them and then the bank alt auctions them once she has a stack of 20. I’ll add that one advantage to my lvl 80 working on the Loremaster of Eastern Kingdoms/Kalimdor achievements is that I’ve been able to find plenty of lower-level gear from drops that I can stick in the GB for my lowbie toons. It’s nice having three GB tabs all to myself (and I’ll probably purchase a fourth soon; I’ve got nearly 4000g in the GB and my lvl 80 is back up to over 2000g on her person, and since I’m not saving for a Tundra Mammoth — I’m refusing on principle — I figure I can afford to work on maxing my GB tabs). My Horde toons on Cairne are a different story, as most of them are members of Burning Dog Legion (the SDMB guild), so I don’t have exclusive use of the guild bank like I do on Lightbringer. And at this point, all of my toons there that I’m playing regularly are still questing in areas that are geographically close enough to capital cities that it isn’t much of a hassle to zip back to the AH themselves. As far as that silver ore my belf paladin had, I gave up after the fifth failed attempt to auction it and just mailed it off to my orc warrior who’s trying to level Mining and Blacksmithing. Somebody mentioned it being easy to run a lvl 1 toon from the starting area to a capital city by sticking to the roads. I’ll note that dwarves and gnomes are an exception to this — the run from the dwarf/gnome starting area requires running through a tunnel full of lvl 5-6 troggs, which are going to give an ungeared lvl 1 toon trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3157 "2009-07-21T16:48:34Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I’m not saving for a Tundra Mammoth — I’m refusing on principle What principle? I’m curious why you wouldn’t want a mount that you can use to cart around your own alts (if you have any on a separate account) or use to trade rides (“You take my alt here, and I’ll take your alt there”), which also provides portable vendors (think, “I can farm this instance a bunch more times before having to run anywhere”). ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3158 "2009-07-21T16:52:33Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > What principle? I’m curious why you wouldn’t want a mount that you can use to cart around your own alts (if you have any on a separate account) or use to trade rides (“You take my alt here, and I’ll take your alt there”), which also provides portable vendors (think, “I can farm this instance a bunch more times before having to run anywhere”). Probably based on it being huge and therefore possibly obnoxious. I once refused to roll on the proto-drake mount in CoS just because I hate big mounts, and haven’t bought the dragon mount for the char of mine that is Exalted with Wyrmrest. However, for some reason I really want the multi-person mammoth. Probably the vendor/repair features. I’m not exactly rolling in dough (the sheer number of alts I have tends to cut into your pocketbook, like buying “epic” flying and cold weather flying for 3 and counting…), but I still want it. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3159 "2009-07-21T17:20:22Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Somebody mentioned it being easy to run a lvl 1 toon from the starting area to a capital city by sticking to the roads. I’ll note that dwarves and gnomes are an exception to this — the run from the dwarf/gnome starting area requires running through a tunnel full of lvl 5-6 troggs, which are going to give an ungeared lvl 1 toon trouble. I’ve had plenty of level 1 gnomes/dwarves follow me through that cave as I progressed out of the starter zone. I think they just wait outside until someone happens by. On a decently populated server I can’t imagine it would take longer than 20 minutes before someone happens by. So there’s always that option. On the other hand. How long does it really take to get to level 5? I’ve created so many dwarves and gnomes, I don’t even read the quests anymore. ---
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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > What principle? I’m curious why you wouldn’t want a mount that you can use to cart around your own alts (if you have any on a separate account) or use to trade rides (“You take my alt here, and I’ll take your alt there”), which also provides portable vendors (think, “I can farm this instance a bunch more times before having to run anywhere”). I only have one account, so your first two points are moot. And, well, the idea of repeatedly farming an instance, or any kind of grinding, is anathema to me. I get bored out of my skull just making a circuit of Sholazar Basin to mine saronite. Tundra Mammoths are the Humvees of WoW. Like most people’s purchase of Hummers, it seems to be more for the “look at me” status than for the practicality. Would you believe that in all the time I’ve now spent in Northrend, I have not once seen _anybody_ actually using the _Traveler’s_ Tundra Mammoth to _travel_? The only places I’ve seen them are in Dalaran or capital cities, where more often than not they’re just standing there, for long periods of time, in some highly-visible location (where they are usually also impeding traffic). If they’re actually moving, said movement usually consists of erratically galloping and leaping back and forth in crowded areas, or attempting ridiculous stunts. For example, I was running to the SW flight point and watched a guy stop at the bottom of the ramp, summon his Tundra Mammoth, ride it to the top of the ramp and get automatically dismounted as soon as he tried to go through the arch at the top. Then there’s all the QQing from people on the WoW Suggestions forums, complaining to Blizzard that they need to redesign SW and UC so that their mammoths don’t keep getting stuck in doorways and tunnels. “Why should I have to summon a different mount just to ride around town?” they whine. “I dunno,” I answer. “Maybe the same reason a trucker puts his wife and kids in the family sedan to hit the McDonald’s drive-thru - his 18-wheeler won’t fit?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=157) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=159)