# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 180
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3581 "2009-08-04T15:41:29Z")
Patch note says: > [@](#): > > Tome of Cold Weather Flight: New heirloom item. Players who have reached level 80 can now purchase this book for 1,000 gold from Hira Snowdawn, the Cold Weather Flying Trainer in Dalaran. Similar to other heirloom items, this item can be mailed to other characters of the same realm, account and faction. The book is consumed when read training the character in Cold Weather Flying. Requires level 68. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3582 "2009-08-04T16:01:16Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > One of my earlier complaints about that quest had to do with his needing to eat storm clouds (or whatever they are) to heal. My gripe was that _he says absolutely nothing about this_ before you start the quest - the first I heard about it was when he started hollering for a storm cloud when he was very low on health, and I’m all “What the hell?” So somebody pointed out that the instructions are in the tooltip for the relevant button, but the problem is that the instant you climb on his shoulder two million undead attack you all at once and you don’t really have time to stand there reading tooltips. Rules #1 of Vehicle Combat: Always, \*always, \*\*always \*\*\*take the two seconds to read the tooltips. Nothing is going to kill you in two seconds (especially not that giant crowd of undead that rushed you–they really don’t do much damage to him, and it’s easy to spam an attack while you read what everything else does), and not knowing your abilities usually \*\*will \*\*kill you, because you’ll miss whatever ability you need to use to heal yourself, charge your abilities, interrupt casting, etc. “But he didn’t tell me!” isn’t a valid excuse when it’s right there in the tooltip and it only takes a moment to read–otherwise, it sounds like you just want everything to be faceroll autowin. > [@](#): > > I’ve found yet another reason to hate the Traveler’s Tundra Mammoth. [snip] I reported a player for parking her (female toon) mammoth on top of the Tastyfish school I was fishing. This is actually a pretty common “strategy” for winning the tournament–getting a bunch of friends to grief other players. People will not only sit on bobbers, but on top of the person you turn the quest in to. Besides opening a ticket, you might want to consider sending a whisper to the person’s Guild Master–they might not be too thrilled with someone giving their guild a bad reputation. Or they could be an asshole with asshole guild members, in which case you’ll know to avoid them for PUGs. > [@](#): > > I know their policy is to not inform me of what, if any, discipline was handed out, but I figured they’d at least let me know they got my report, and maybe let me know if my complaint was valid or not. Blizzard will never, ever tell you any results of a complaint against another user. However, there should have been an acknowledgement that they received your ticket, either in an email or an in-game mail. If you haven’t gotten one in either, and your ticket is no longer showing up as active on the character you opened it on, try opening another ticket. > [@Jas09](#): > > Yay patch, but boo me for not thinking to load up my client to start the download while I’m at work… so much for hitting up the new dungeon tonight. Your Background Downloader should have been going for the past couple of weeks, so there shouldn’t be much left to download. I had mine go while I was getting ready this morning, and it only took a few minutes to finish. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3583 "2009-08-04T16:01:33Z")
Nice, my priest is 80 and Exalted with Kirin Tor. And has the 800g or whatever it will cost. Hurrah! ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3584 "2009-08-04T16:06:33Z")
> [@Darwins\_Finch](#): > > This really bugged me when I was looking to get the [mechanical chicken](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=10398) pet. Because the quests that lead to getting that pet come from random drops, I had no way of knowing if the lack of drops which trigger the quests were because I had already done those quests way back when (obviously, I did not recall if I had actually done them or not), or was just unlucky in terms of getting the beacons to drop. > > So I just bought the damn thing from the AH (the pet itself is, fortunately for me, BoE). You can ask a GM to tell you whether you’ve done the three quests or not, and if not which ones you’re missing. I don’t think they’d do it for “hey, I’m Loremaster and wanna know every single quest I’m missing, thxbye”… The flight trainers don’t have faction discounts, do they? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3585 "2009-08-04T16:11:16Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > The flight trainers don’t have faction discounts, do they? Now they do! > [@](#): > > Expert Riding (Skill 225): Can now be learned at level 60 for 600 gold from trainers in Honor Hold or Thrallmar. Faction discounts now apply (Honor Hold for Alliance; Thrallmar for Horde). Flight speed at this skill level has been increased to 150% of run speed, up from 60%. > Artisan Riding (Skill 300): Faction discounts now apply (Honor Hold or Valiance Expedition for Alliance; Thrallmar or Warsong Offensive for Horde). ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3586 "2009-08-04T16:16:17Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Your Background Downloader should have been going for the past couple of weeks, so there shouldn’t be much left to download. I had mine go while I was getting ready this morning, and it only took a few minutes to finish. I forgot to fire it up this morning, so I’ll have to do it tonight. I have enough money for regular flying on my hunter so I think I will buy it for her and finish up Outland things. I had barely explored Shadowmoon Valley, and only gotten to Netherstorm for a flight point, and there’s lots left for me to do in Outland besides that. I think I should get some decent use out of flying there while I’m getting enough money for Cold Weather Flying. I was trying to save villagers while on a flying critter, but I put that quest aside, as they run so fast it’s hard for me to save them. I think I will try it again when I have a little more flying experience so that I know better how to control the birdie. I had a lot of fun last night doing an Explorers’ League quest where you get inside a metal golem and control it. I especially liked the part where you rocket-jump off runes. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3587 "2009-08-04T16:21:24Z")
Oh, good! 3.2! New druid models, finally! Oh, damn! I didn’t think to start up the download before I went to work, despite thinking last night before I went to bed “I think the patch comes out tomorrow”… ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3588 "2009-08-04T16:28:33Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > You both need it. You can’t complete the quest unless you have it in your possession. > > Generally speaking, if you need an item to accomplish some other objective to complete the mission – like, say, you’re given a quest to kill a beast and you need some meat to lure it out – only one of you needs the item. In the example, one person has the item, lures out the beast, then you both get credit for the kill which is really what counts. > > On the other hand, if the objective of the quest is an item, like the mithril casing or a beer or just a standard collection quest, then you need to actually have the items in your inventory to properly complete the quest. Thank you that makes sense. One problem with grouping is I occasionally have an odd quest item in my bags that I have no idea what it is for as often it is a consumable that I didn’t have to use to complete the quest. ---
**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3589 "2009-08-04T17:01:03Z")
Another amusing story related to that: Slightly before Burning Crusade, my mage got a quest that required a lot of gathering in order to defeat a big nasty demon. I finished the gathering and got one of my level 60 buddies to help me fight it, and we got smoked. I knew BC was coming out soon, so I told him, “We’ll wait til we’re 70, then come back and get some payback.” Well, I forgot about the quest. Finally, at level 80, I decided to give it another shot, solo. I go to the Blasted Lands, summon the demon, and… It starts wiping the walls with me. I mean, it’s not doing a LOT of damage, but I’m doing NO damage to it. I summon my water elemental (good thing I was frost-specced that week) and elemental pounds the tar out of him, end of quest. I look back on it a day later, and realize… The demon is (supposedly) invulnerable until I use the quest-hunted item that, well… Is still in my bank. D’oh! ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3590 "2009-08-04T17:34:28Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I don’t think they’d do it for “hey, I’m Loremaster and wanna know every single quest I’m missing, thxbye”… That’s correct. There was one time where I was stuck in Icecrown and thought something had bugged out–it turned out that the one quest I needed to continue was given by an NPC inside of a cave (that I’m pretty sure I was in before and he wasn’t offering it then) so I could fly right over it and not see the “!”–and the GM had to get permission from a head GM to tell me what quest to go look up. > [@martu](#): > > One problem with grouping is I occasionally have an odd quest item in my bags that I have no idea what it is for as often it is a consumable that I didn’t have to use to complete the quest. You can always go to a site like [Wowhead](http://www.wowhead.com) to look these items up and see if they’re required for anything. > [@ArrMatey](#): > > Finally, at level 80, I decided to give it another shot, solo. I go to the Blasted Lands, summon the demon, and… It starts wiping the walls with me. I think I know exactly what you’re talking about–I just did that quest chain on my 50 Mage with the help of a friend on a 72 Priest. The problem is that he’s immune to all schools of magic except Arcane and is also immune to all DOTs and debuffs. We were only able to get through the quest after the Priest went Discipline and kept himself bubbled and healed while he hammered away at the guy with his weapon. (I stood out of the way and kept Arcane Missiles going… which mostly missed, with maybe one partially resisted hit out of every 10 or so.) ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3591 "2009-08-04T18:32:41Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Oh, good! 3.2! New druid models, finally! Yay, indeed! Druid one (my main) is all black, so will have the black forms (not that he ever enters them…he’s resto/balance). Druid two (my feral druid) is all white, so will get the polar bear/kitty skins 🙂 I really need to get him the T4 outfit sometime…he has only white mounts, too 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3592 "2009-08-04T18:44:00Z")
Also yay for: new raptor non-combat pets, new Argent Tourney stuff for those with the “Crusader” title, a Gorloc pet!, and (finally!) the Ravasaur mount. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3593 "2009-08-04T19:15:27Z")
After downloading the new patch, I 'm seeing this flashing message, which has been flashing for a long time (5 min). Will I screw things up if I x out of it? Thanks Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3594 "2009-08-04T19:32:47Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > After downloading the new patch, I 'm seeing this flashing message, which has been flashing for a long time (5 min). Will I screw things up if I x out of it? Hard to answer since you forgot to tell us what the message says. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3595 "2009-08-04T19:39:04Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > Hard to answer since you forgot to tell us what the message says. The bolded text above the part of his post you quoted, wouldn’t you say? ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3596 "2009-08-04T19:42:10Z")
Problem solved. Just got a message saying “Update was successful”! 🙂 Whew! Glad i have you guys to keep me out of trouble! 🙂 Thanks! Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3597 "2009-08-04T19:47:29Z")
> [@Darwins\_Finch](#): > > Also yay for: new raptor non-combat pets, new Argent Tourney stuff for those with the “Crusader” title, a Gorloc pet!, and (finally!) the Ravasaur mount. Speaking of the ravasaur the patch notes say: "The ravasaur trainer Mor’vek has returned to Un’Goro and will offer to help Horde players raise and train a Venomhide Ravasaur as a mount… if they can survive the creature’s deadly poison. " What do you think they mean by “raise and train”? A quest chain to raise it from a baby to an adult and maybe a quest to where you do something to become immune to the poison, or what? I don’t think they put those two words in there if all you did was just go to the guy and give him some gold. Anyways I’m excited and con’t wait until I get off work to check out all the new stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3598 "2009-08-04T19:47:50Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > The bolded text above the part of his post you quoted, wouldn’t you say? No, no, that’s too obvious for me, if it isn’t in the actual post it doesn’t exist. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3599 "2009-08-04T19:56:09Z")
**Mogle** : :D:D:D:D:D Did you forget you’re talking to the “king” of screwing up?😉 NP, Kumpel, **NP**! And thanks very much for all your help and advice! If it weren’t for you and the others, I’d still be killing kobolds in Elwynn! 🙂 And wondering why I’m not gettin’ any XP by killing baddies 6 levels lower than me! :smack::smack::smack: It’s great having you guys to help me out! Quasi ETA: I’m getting gorloc pet? **RAUFLAMAU! 😉** ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/3600 "2009-08-04T20:42:26Z")
2 hours and 20 minutes before we can play (EST 7 pm) Hope I don’t get the heebie-jeebies! 🙂 Q [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=179) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=181)