# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 208
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4141 "2009-08-20T05:54:18Z")
We have **got** to keep Wolkie _out_ of Booty Bay! Little Mommy-Frigger loses his footing and winds up “in the drink” every time we go there, and then has to swim and swim and swim till he finds a ledge that’ll take him up. Hope there ain’t nobody watchin’ us when that happens!:o There’s ONE quest to turn in in there (somebody’s bottle), but since I’m this close to levellin’ to 43? I’m gonna take the next bird to Marshmallow Marsh and just grind a while! 🙂 Thanks! Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Mekhazzio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Mekhazzio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mekhazzio)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4142 "2009-08-20T06:42:11Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > 1. At your level, I **think** if you’re close enough to another bad guy to make them mad with Thunderclap, they’d probably run up to beat you up anyway, even without using it. Don’t take my word as gospel though! Yeah, this is correct. Thunderclap and Demoralizing Shout have medium-sized areas of effect that, sure, could affect something you weren’t already directly in combat with. However, unless you are fighting enemies that are **much** lower level than you are, by the time they’re close enough to be hit by your Shout, they’re already going to see you and react to your mere presence. The only time you have to be careful with them is if you’re fighting in close proximity to neutral enemies. Enemies with a yellow name are not immediately hostile to you and will not attack on sight, only if you hit them first, and the Shouts count as an attack. Usually the only neutrals you encounter are non-carnivorous wildlife, and there’s increasingly less of that as you go up in level, but there are notable exceptions where maintaining a low profile is important, such as the bar of drunken dwarves in Blackrock Depths. Accidentally starting a barfight is…not recommended. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4143 "2009-08-20T08:15:52Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > When I made my draenei mage I chose the darkest available skin color for her and gave her dark hair and horns. But I hadn’t anticipated how completely awesome she would look when I dressed her in the [Black Velvet Robes](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=2800) that I’ve had sitting in my guild bank just waiting for a clothie to reach a high enough level to wear them 🙂 > > Check her out: > > [http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3779920&l=64108ef1b1&id=661212628](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3779920&l=64108ef1b1&id=661212628) Now that’s a look - currently my belf is wearing a red robe, purple wizard type hat and blue shoulders. He looks ridiculous. Tonight I am hitting the AH to get some upgrades that will hopefully look better. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4144 "2009-08-20T08:54:42Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > We have **got** to keep Wolkie _out_ of Booty Bay! > > Little Mommy-Frigger loses his footing and winds up “in the drink” every time we go there, and then has to swim and swim and swim till he finds a ledge that’ll take him up. > > Hope there ain’t nobody watchin’ us when that happens!:o > > There’s ONE quest to turn in in there (somebody’s bottle), but since I’m this close to levellin’ to 43? > > I’m gonna take the next bird to Marshmallow Marsh and just grind a while! 🙂 > > Thanks! > > Quasi Deliver to MacKinley I take it? You’ll get some nice plate boots for handing that in. When you get off the boat at Booty Bay go straight until you get to the first ramp then go up it to the set of houses on the higher level. When you see a shark hanging outside a house you are there, this picture shows where he is quite clearly: [MacKinley](http://i.thottbot.com/ss/o/18493.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4145 "2009-08-20T09:00:36Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Ha, that’s funny b/c we are doing Sunken Temple on Wednesday too. 😃 > > Just as well - I was starting to get worried we would have too many people wanting to be in the party! How did the run go? I hear it is easy to get lost. Ours was postponed when we were advised to get this quest first [The God Hakkar](http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=3528) so we spent last night mostly travelling to do the quest prerequisites. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4146 "2009-08-20T13:19:54Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Now that’s a look - currently my belf is wearing a red robe, purple wizard type hat and blue shoulders. He looks ridiculous. Tonight I am hitting the AH to get some upgrades that will hopefully look better. My male BElf tankadin is wearing a chestpiece that exposes his midriff. Talk about ridiculous! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4147 "2009-08-20T13:26:18Z")
> [@martu](#): > > How did the run go? I hear it is easy to get lost. > > Ours was postponed when we were advised to get this quest first [The God Hakkar](http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=3528) so we spent last night mostly travelling to do the quest prerequisites. It went well. I always get in lost in there, so I printed out directions which made it a lot easier. Next week will go even faster. We had a group of my tankadin, two priests (Shadow and Holy), a hunter, and another pally. The other pally was level 80 but is a guildie who wanted the achievement, so we made him go bare-knuckled just to make it more fair (we weren’t looking for a runthrough). We never really had any trouble inside the instance; I think I died once and we never wiped. No one had the God Hakkar quest, so we didn’t get to summon that boss, but we took down all the rest. I’m just mad that the shield I want didn’t drop! We’ll run it again next week and it will be faster since I know my way around now. If anyone on Cairne wants to join us let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4148 "2009-08-20T13:30:27Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Something else you might look into is macros. My 52 Mage uses a macro for every city she can teleport or create a portal to: when she’s solo, the button teleports; when she’s in a party or a raid, the button creates a portal (with no modifier key) or teleports her (with any modifier key). > > Make sure you have all four extra action bars enabled, too: you’ll use all of 'em. I use several /castsequence macros, for example for “preparation spells.” My mage has one that’s (off the top of my head): int buff, damage shield, food, food, food (her food gives mana as well as hp) The priest has one for the prayers and another one for the individual buffs; the one with the prayers has the shadow prot first (it’s the shortest lasting one), the one for solo has shadow last and includes a self-only-buff. That frees up buttons quite nicely. > [@Skammer](#): > > My male BElf tankadin is wearing a chestpiece that exposes his midriff. Talk about ridiculous! Speaking as a dwarf, you had the last word by the time you said “male BElf” 😃 Those guys have a serious bad case of fused-together hip. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4149 "2009-08-20T13:38:08Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > It went well. I always get in lost in there, so I printed out directions which made it a lot easier. Next week will go even faster. > > We had a group of my tankadin, two priests (Shadow and Holy), a hunter, and another pally. The other pally was level 80 but is a guildie who wanted the achievement, so we made him go bare-knuckled just to make it more fair (we weren’t looking for a runthrough). We never really had any trouble inside the instance; I think I died once and we never wiped. Closest we came to a wipe was on the way into the instance, when the hunter accidentally clicked on a flagged level-80 ally, who then came back again and wiped out the holy priest after he res’d. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4150 "2009-08-20T13:38:14Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > It went well. I always get in lost in there, so I printed out directions which made it a lot easier. Next week will go even faster. > > We had a group of my tankadin, two priests (Shadow and Holy), a hunter, and another pally. The other pally was level 80 but is a guildie who wanted the achievement, so we made him go bare-knuckled just to make it more fair (we weren’t looking for a runthrough). We never really had any trouble inside the instance; I think I died once and we never wiped. > > No one had the God Hakkar quest, so we didn’t get to summon that boss, but we took down all the rest. I’m just mad that the shield I want didn’t drop! > > We’ll run it again next week and it will be faster since I know my way around now. If anyone on Cairne wants to join us let me know. Pity about the shield but grats anyway - out of interest where did you get your directions from? ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4151 "2009-08-20T13:43:41Z")
Oh, yes, that’s a great look on your draenei, **Mister Rik.** My 79 hunter is all decked out in the snazzy shades-of-black Northrend gear and her spear has a spooky red aura around it thanks to the Greater Savagery enchant I had put on it. She looks as scary as my DK now. My belf warlock, however, is starting to look like she’s cold. I need to find that girl a robe. The Clan of the Cave Elves look was fun for a while, though. **Quasi,** I still fall in the water sometimes. I took involuntary swims on Booty Bay so many times. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4152 "2009-08-20T13:45:48Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > **Quasi,** I still fall in the water sometimes. I took involuntary swims on Booty Bay so many times. I knew I’d been in Stranglethorn too long when I started to know my way around Booty Bay. ---
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4153 "2009-08-20T14:05:47Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I knew I’d been in Stranglethorn too long when I started to know my way around Booty Bay. I don’t know about you guys but I am sick and tired of going to Booty Bay to turn in quests, hit the bank or throw up some stuff on the AH only to find the \*\*whole town \*\*slaughtered. They really need to make the non guard NPCs immune to attacks. Tried talking to my playmate last night about ending his subscription and he is still dead set on quitiing WoW. WTB NEW QUESTBUDDY! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4154 "2009-08-20T14:37:06Z")
> [@shinto46](#): > > I don’t know about you guys but I am sick and tired of going to Booty Bay to turn in quests, hit the bank or throw up some stuff on the AH only to find the \*\*whole town \*\*slaughtered. They really need to make the non guard NPCs immune to attacks. Yeah, I hear you. I like Achievements and titles as much as the next player, but it’s at the point where I automatically think “jerk!” when I see the “Bloodsail Admiral” title over someone’s head. Probably unfair to use such a broad brush, but trying to level alts and doing quests in Stranglethorn became painful after a while. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4155 "2009-08-20T15:03:01Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > And by “mindless” I mean that it appears the people selling for 10g have completely failed to notice that a stack of 20 Saronite _Bars_ _vendors_ for 25g. [snip] So I’ve passed this information on to our little consortium’s organizer, suggesting that we all either just sit on our inventory for a while, or just smelt & vendor our stockpiles and wait for supply & demand to bring the prices back up. 1.) Buy up all the massively underpriced ore, smelt it, and vendor it. Voila–profit at the expense of morons! 2.) Saronite Ore is prospectable, yeah? You might want to look into if it would be more worth your while to have a JC friend pull gems out than to smelt and vendor your stockpile. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > 1. Battle strategy: If I make a kill and approach another quest enemy, I make Wolkie back away from them and lead them into the position where the dead one is. Is that what y’all do, and does it do any good? Nice work on pulling! You definitely want to be fighting mobs away from other baddies, but it doesn’t necessarily have to be directly on top of the last one you killed. Usually what I’d do at your level is pick a safe distance that was within range of my ranged weapon, pull the mobs one at a time, then move foward to the next group and repeat. > [@](#): > > 1. HOW many action bars can I load? I currently have two, and I stay away from “Defensive Stance” because I think that’s used mostly for tanking, is that right? Also, my guru, **Amberale** gave me the impression that I should not use D. Stance yet. Besides your standard quick bar, you can add one more on the bottom left, one on the bottom right, and two vertical ones along the right-hand side of your screen. I generally have all of mine active, although I don’t use every single slot. (I put some spacing in to make things easier to find.) Defensive Stance will use the same action bars, EXCEPT for your quick bar (the one with 1, 2, 3, etc. on it). That bar will swap out when you change stances. Amberale is right about not using Defensive Stance–you should be fighting in Battle Stance. Defensive Stance would be for if you wanted to tank something, or if a pull got screwed up and you ended up with a bunch of guys hammering on you. (Personally, Sleutel stays in Defensive Stance most of the time that she’s out and about in the world in her Protection spec and tanking gear, but that’s because she has the talents that make it better for her. When she’s in her Arms spec and DPS gear, she stays in Battle Stance.) > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Thanks! So at this point, SHED what **Wolkie** has and go back to AH, or just remember what you wrote here for next time? Unless you’re having a lot of problems killing things, just remember it for next time. Having “bad” stats doesn’t hurt you, per se–it just makes you not as strong as you could be, so you kill things slower. > [@shinto46](#): > > I don’t know about you guys but I am sick and tired of going to Booty Bay to turn in quests, hit the bank or throw up some stuff on the AH only to find the \*\*whole town \*\*slaughtered. They really need to make the non guard NPCs immune to attacks. I thought only the guards gave the best rep, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4156 "2009-08-20T15:05:05Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Pity about the shield but grats anyway - out of interest where did you get your directions from? I just followed the directions on [Wowwiki.com](http://Wowwiki.com) (it’s blocked at work or I’d link to it). There was only one or two spots where the directions were not quite clear, but it didn’t take long to figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4157 "2009-08-20T15:09:32Z")
**Quasi** , [here’s](http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3406/wowscrnshot042509214113.jpg) a screenshot of my UI from earlier this year so you can see where the other action bars show up. You can see extra icons along the bottom (above my quickbar) and then more icons along the right-hand side of the screen. On an unrelated note, I found this when I was looking for the screenshot link. Someone posted it in my guild’s forum after finding it on the official WoW ones: > [@](#): > > Yogg-Saron: Okay, so this whole plan is going pretty well. I’ve gunked up a tree in Grizzly Hills, I’ve enslaved the Keepers of Ulduar, and I’ve set up an impassable ravine between my inner sanctum and the outside world, so nobody can get in to stop me. > > Kologarn: AND I WILL STAND IN IT. > > Yogg-Saron: Seriously not necessary, K-Garn. I’ve got that whole thing under control. Check out the map. It says that’s “The Shattered Walkway.” It used to just be “The Walkway.” Until I shattered it. No walkway, no progress. Pure effin’ genius. > > Kologarn: AND THAT IS WHERE I WILL SQUEEZE THE LIFE OUT OF THEM. > > Yogg-Saron: No, dude. You don’t need to go there at all. You can pretty much just take the week off. Maybe meet some ladies. I can’t even remember the last time you hooked up. > > Kologarn: NONE SHALL PASS. > > Yogg-Saron: Well, that’s the point of a huge ravine. So I don’t really need your help. > > Kologarn: I CAN CRUSH AN ARMORED TAUREN IN MY POWERFUL STONE GRIP. > > Yogg-Saron: Yeah, but the tauren can’t get over the ravine anyway. And it will be extra funny, because they could totally get over the ravine if they could use their flying mounts, but flying mounts are disabled in Ulduar. That will make them crazy. See, that’s what I do. > > Kologarn: WITH MY OVERHEAD SMASH, I CAN MAKE THE EARTH SHAKE. MY FOCUSED EYEBEAMS TURN MY VERY RAGE INTO LAZERS. > > Yogg-Saron: Okay, I guess if you really want a crack at them. But it’s fine with me if you just want to knock off. What’s your hard mode? > > Kologarn: HARD MODE? > > Yogg-Saron: Can you, like, buff yourself to do double damage, or have twice as much health or something? > > Kologarn: I AM VERY LARGE. > > Yogg-Saron: Fair enough. Go hang out there. I guess, even if they beat you, I’ve still got my bases covered with the whole shattering-the-walkway plan. > > Kologarn: YEAH. I DON’T SEE ANY WAY YOU’LL BE SORRY ABOUT THIS. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4158 "2009-08-20T15:22:20Z")
**SFG,** that is hilarious! I’ve been enjoying the Hyldnir and Sons of Hodir stuff immensely. My favorite part has been where you, disguised as a stacked blue giant gal with icicles hanging off her helmet-horns, ride a drake around and around, fighting similar blue giantesses. You jump onto their drakes and knock them off. Now, as a hunter, I’m not so melee-inclined, but what I did was put my two melee abilities (Raptor Strike and Mongoose Bite) on my numbered action bar, and alternate between them till I knocked my opponent off the drake. That was so much fun, I wish it were a daily. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4159 "2009-08-20T15:35:15Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > **SFG,** that is hilarious! > > I’ve been enjoying the Hyldnir and Sons of Hodir stuff immensely. My favorite part has been where you, disguised as a stacked blue giant gal with icicles hanging off her helmet-horns, ride a drake around and around, fighting similar blue giantesses. You jump onto their drakes and knock them off. Now, as a hunter, I’m not so melee-inclined, but what I did was put my two melee abilities (Raptor Strike and Mongoose Bite) on my numbered action bar, and alternate between them till I knocked my opponent off the drake. That was so much fun, I wish it were a daily. God, I loved that! The Sons of Hodir one with the drake, not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4160 "2009-08-20T15:36:16Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > God, I loved that! > > The Sons of Hodir one with the drake, not so much. Which one? The one where you have to rescue the prisoners and the drakes and the Sons of Hodir keep shooting at you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=207) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=209)