# World of Warcraft General Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4161 "2009-08-20T15:39:43Z")

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> [@Telperien](#):
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> Which one? The one where you have to rescue the prisoners and the drakes and the Sons of Hodir keep shooting at you?

No, the one where you have to keep mashing the “hold on” button while at the same time mashing the “little spear” button, and occasionally hitting the “big spear” button which shares a cooldown with the “hold on” button…

Way too masheriffic for me…I tried it a couple of times and every time I managed to run out of “hold on” just when it was going into cooldown. Fall down go boom.

It’s a quest actually given by the Sons…you get it after you do the Thorim quests that switch the Sons from hostile to neutral to you.

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4162 "2009-08-20T15:45:10Z")

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Very funny, **SFG**! Reminds me of someone’s crack about Instructor Razuvious.

Raz : “I am the strongest death knight around! So mighty that I am chosen by Kel’Thuzad to train all death knights in his service. No one can possibly withstand my might, except perhaps my trainees.”

Trainee : “Hey Raz, where do you want these mind control crystals?”

Raz : “Eh, just put them anywhere. How about right at the entrance to our training area? Can’t see anything wrong with that plan.”

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4163 "2009-08-20T15:51:30Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> No, the one where you have to keep mashing the “hold on” button while at the same time mashing the “little spear” button, and occasionally hitting the “big spear” button which shares a cooldown with the “hold on” button…
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> Way too masheriffic for me…I tried it a couple of times and every time I managed to run out of “hold on” just when it was going into cooldown. Fall down go boom.
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> It’s a quest actually given by the Sons…you get it after you do the Thorim quests that switch the Sons from hostile to neutral to you.

I liked the button-mashing quest, and kind of like the following-the-ghost-wolf-around quest. The rest of the SoH grind, not so much.

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**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4164 "2009-08-20T15:54:06Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I thought only the guards gave the best rep, anyway?

I guess any rep is better than no rep as far as the farmers are concerned.  
Nice screen shot SFG. Only one person dead on that encounter? Looks a **LOT** different than what my guild usually does in OD 10. We are lucky to finish it at all most weeks. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4165 "2009-08-20T15:54:23Z")

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> [@Telperien](#):
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> My favorite part has been where you, disguised as a stacked blue giant gal with icicles hanging off her helmet-horns, ride a drake around and around, fighting similar blue giantesses.

That quest was totally awesome. Fight people on the back of drakes flying hundreds of feet in the air! Wheee! I agree that it should be a daily.

> [@jayjay](#):
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> The Sons of Hodir one with the drake, not so much.

Aw, I like that one. Of course, playing a Prot Warrior, I’m used to frenetic button-hammering. 😛

> [@Telperien](#):
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> Which one?

It’s a Sons of Hodir daily that opens up at Revered (or maybe Honored, I forget, it’s been a while).

> [@Jas09](#):
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> Very funny, **SFG**! Reminds me of someone’s crack about Instructor Razuvious.

I saw that one, too! Hilarious. I think someone posted it in the comments section of his page on Wowhead, which unfortunately I can’t get to from work.

ETA:

> [@shinto46](#):
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> Nice screen shot SFG. Only one person dead on that encounter? Looks a **LOT** different than what my guild usually does in OD 10. We are lucky to finish it at all most weeks. :smack:

We usually don’t lose anybody unless they’re new or not paying attention. Really, once you get the rhythm down it’s not that hard to stay out of the way of the lava (especially since they fixed the bug). Based on how much of a lead I have on threat, I think that was one of our Sarth+1D runs.

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**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4166 "2009-08-20T15:54:28Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> No, the one where you have to keep mashing the “hold on” button while at the same time mashing the “little spear” button, and occasionally hitting the “big spear” button which shares a cooldown with the “hold on” button…
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> Way too masheriffic for me…I tried it a couple of times and every time I managed to run out of “hold on” just when it was going into cooldown. Fall down go boom.
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> It’s a quest actually given by the Sons…you get it after you do the Thorim quests that switch the Sons from hostile to neutral to you.

I don’t think I’ve done that one yet.

ETA: I’m not quite Honored yet, so that might be why.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4167 "2009-08-20T15:58:00Z")

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> [@Telperien](#):
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> I don’t think I’ve done that one yet.
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> ETA: I’m not quite Honored yet, so that might be why.

I think that one doesn’t pop up till you hit Revered. Not sure, though.

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**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4168 "2009-08-20T16:02:49Z")

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> [@Telperien](#):
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> I don’t think I’ve done that one yet.
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> ETA: I’m not quite Honored yet, so that might be why.

Oh I dislike that one very much.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4169 "2009-08-20T17:18:31Z")

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> [@Telperien](#):
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> Oh, yes, that’s a great look on your draenei, **Mister Rik.** My 79 hunter is all decked out in the snazzy shades-of-black Northrend gear and her spear has a spooky red aura around it thanks to the Greater Savagery enchant I had put on it. She looks as scary as my DK now.

I found a set of blue-name black cloth shoulders on the AH that, on preview, went perfectly with the robe and would have made her look even more awesome, but I passed on them because the stats on them weren’t that impressive - I think they granted only 1 more point of INT than the green shoulders I ended up buying, and the other stats were a wash, but were more than 100g more expensive than the ones I bought. I didn’t want to spend an extra 100g just for the looks.

> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> 1.) Buy up all the massively underpriced ore, smelt it, and vendor it. Voila–profit at the expense of morons!  
> 2.) Saronite Ore is prospectable, yeah? You might want to look into if it would be more worth your while to have a JC friend pull gems out than to smelt and vendor your stockpile.

Don’t know any JC’s, though I’m thinking of having one of my alts take it. The “miner’s consortium” ringleader suggested the same thing about buying up the cheap ore, though it’s looking like the 10g/stack ore may have been the result of a one-time idiot (though that idiot posted something like 30 stacks all at once). In the meantime, it appears that everybody else is either following my suggestion (or had the same idea themselves) of just sitting on inventory for a while. In the last couple days the Saronite Ore supply on the AH has dropped from six pages to three pages, to just one page as of late last night.

> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> On an unrelated note, I found this when I was looking for the screenshot link. Someone posted it in my guild’s forum after finding it on the official WoW ones:

Let me hazard a guess: upon defeating Kologarn, his immense stone body topples over and forms an effective bridge across the chasm?

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**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4170 "2009-08-20T17:22:11Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Let me hazard a guess: upon defeating Kologarn, his immense stone body topples over and forms an effective bridge across the chasm?

Yup. Best laid plans…

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4171 "2009-08-20T17:27:37Z")

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The downside of switching to my Hordies on Cairne; I have to give up my 76 Hunter. I was so close to hitting endgame, too, and actually being able to participate in all that stuff. _sniffle_

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**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4172 "2009-08-20T17:49:53Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> The downside of switching to my Hordies on Cairne; I have to give up my 76 Hunter. I was so close to hitting endgame, too, and actually being able to participate in all that stuff. _sniffle_

Why can’t you do both? Or were you transferring the 76 to Cairne?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4173 "2009-08-20T17:56:16Z")

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> [@shinto46](#):
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> Why can’t you do both? Or were you transferring the 76 to Cairne?

Not much reason to keep playing on Cenarius, and I’m surely not paying the $50 to transfer to Cairne and from Alliance to Horde.

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**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4174 "2009-08-20T19:41:36Z")

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Hey all! Two questions:

First, I’m pretty new to the game. I’ve got a Shaman I’m leveling with a friend (43 so far) that’s a lot of fun. But, I thought I’d try working on a different character too, so I’ve started a Warlock, going at a much slower pace. I’m very unclear on builds, and the few sites with examples I found were confusing. Does anyone have any good sites for reading up on Warlocks, or just some suggestions for how I should spend my talent points? I’m sitting on four of them right now!  
The second question is, is there an SDMB guild anywhere? Alliance and/or Horde? I’d love to try the Alliance out but don’t know anyone who plays Alliance.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4175 "2009-08-20T19:43:56Z")

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There’s a fairly active Horde guild on Cairne server - the Burning Dog Legion - search for “burning dog” on the who list of just hop onto the /sdmb channel and ask around for an invite. We tried to put together an Alliance-side annex of the guild, but it’s pretty much burned out/tapered off.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4176 "2009-08-20T20:08:07Z")

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> [@Eonwe](#):
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> Does anyone have any good sites for reading up on Warlocks, or just some suggestions for how I should spend my talent points?

Probably part of the problem is that most or all of the builds you’re looking at are going to be geared towards end-game raiding, not leveling. When leveling a 'Lock, you have two basic options: spec heavily into Demo so you can have a strong pet to tank for you, or spec for a lot of damage so that you can burn through enemies before they can kill you. Personally, I went the former route on my 'Lock, so if you want to do the same, look for talents that will increase pet health, threat, damage, etc., and any talents that specifically improve your Voidwalker.

I seem to recall that we’ve got at least one or two people who go the “burn that shit down” route with their leveling Warlocks, though, so hopefully one of them can give you other options, too.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4177 "2009-08-20T20:41:08Z")

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I love 'em to death, and wouldn’t take a billion bucks for any of 'em, but they are sure as hell some _ugly_ critters, _ **The Burning Dog Legion** _! 😉

I gotta get over to Cairne and play my OWN Horde, “Quasimodem” (Dude, I cannot _believe_ that name was available when I chose it for Wow! I THINK I can claim to be the “first” Quasi, but there’s a BUNCH of us running around the web now).

If y’all will tell me a time, I’ll be sure to go there and you can invite me, but I already am in a guild with my bud **Amberale** (“The EOAD FEEBS”). Can I be in 2 guilds as long as it’s 2 different servers, and if not, can we just group sometimes?

Also, me and Wolkie just hit level 43 (yes, we returned that quest to the guy at Booty Bay and also picked up the Mistvale Gorilla giblets quest, but we went into the drink AGAIN! :D)!

Anyway, I’m in SW, about to go buy some new stuff for Wolk’. Copied and pasted **SFG’s** response to my question about how to equip, so let’s see if I learned anything! 😉 (Thanks, Hon!)

**Eonwe**? Welcome! Everything you need to know is right here in this thread, so don’t waste your time going to the WoW forums. Just ask and you will receive!🙂

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4178 "2009-08-20T20:47:20Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> Can I be in 2 guilds as long as it’s 2 different servers, and if not, can we just group sometimes?

Each of your characters can be in a different guild–even if you had two characters on the same server, they could be in two different guilds. The only thing you cannot do is be in two guilds on the same character at the same time (you have to quit or be kicked out in order to join a different one).

Oh, and I thought of you today when I was doing the crossword at lunch! The clue was “Lady of the Haus,” and the answer was “frau.” 😃

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4179 "2009-08-20T22:19:27Z")

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> [@shinto46](#):
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> I don’t know about you guys but I am sick and tired of going to Booty Bay to turn in quests, hit the bank or throw up some stuff on the AH only to find the \*\*whole town \*\*slaughtered. They really need to make the non guard NPCs immune to attacks.
> 
> Tried talking to my playmate last night about ending his subscription and he is still dead set on quitiing WoW. WTB NEW QUESTBUDDY!

If you are on alexstracza or however it is spelled, a couple of us are there … Qasi plays overnight, and i play randomly during the day and night.

I’m finally up to playing a few hours a day … I actually played 2 straight hours today before my nap attack struck 😃

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4180 "2009-08-20T22:44:30Z")

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Well, I just had a nice “experience” (if you wanna give it that much credit). A level 19 got herself into a bit of difficulty and couldn’t hearth out right away so she called for help in chat. Turned out she had enemies all around her, so I told her to hide, and then we just whispered to each other and I told her about the time me and **Wolkie** went from Goldshire to Red Ridge with him only a level 9!😃

She was finally able to hearth (she had done so previously, so had to wait out the time limit).

BTW, this was while I was rezzin from being killed by two (level 46) Glass Ridge Gazers in Tanaris.

Me and **Wolk** ’ got cocky because we (43) managed to kill one of the GRG’s before, and weren’t watching and another one came up and down we went! _S_

We _almost_ rode into Gaping Chasm, till I saw those level 49 birds!

**Silka** sure was cute doin’ those little back steps outta there!

Thanks

Q

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