# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 214
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4261 "2009-08-24T09:33:43Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > So … what am I missing here? I’ve been round and round Dalaran, and I can’t find the plate armor dealer (not that I have any tokens/badges/whatever to buy stuff with; I just wonder where it is). I’ve located the dealers for all the other armor types, but not plate. The only plate I’ve found are some boots from the cobbler gnome guy upstairs in the cloth armor shop … > > Haven’t seen any shields, either. IIRC it’s in the northeastern building at the Magus Commerce Exchange, where you also find the Blacksmith trainers. > [@martu](#): > > Not many EU players then, oh well. I’ll ask again in a while and see if we have enough to start something up. _Raises a hand_ > [@](#): > > Quick question - where will I end up if I log out in an instance? Our Sunken Temple run did not go to plan though with only two of us (level 55 paladins) it might be expected, only one wipe (so far) but also only one boss dead. Depends a bit on the exact circumstances, but unless someone in your party is still in the instance expect to log back in at beginning of a fresh instance. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4262 "2009-08-24T10:12:23Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > _Raises a hand_ and then there were 4… 6 to go! > [@Mogle](#): > > Depends a bit on the exact circumstances, but unless someone in your party is still in the instance expect to log back in at beginning of a fresh instance. OK not too bad then, I was worried we’d be hearthed or something which would be very annoying as the inn is in Tanaris. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4263 "2009-08-24T14:46:57Z")
**Quasi**! I sat down this Saturday and put together what I think would be a good talent build for you to level with: **Fury**. If you decide to go this route, you will want to use \*\*two \*\*one-handed weapons, one in each hand. Wolkie was 43 when I looked him up, so that’s what I started with. 1.) Talents [at 43](http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LZGx00Eiu00R). 2.) Talents [at 50](http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LZGx00Eiu0fRM). 3.) Talents [at 60](http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LZGx00Eiu0fRMzAo). The point I have Wolkie take when he hits 60 is Titan’s Grip, and it will allow him to equip two **two** -handed weapons instead of two one-handers. If you decide you want to change Wolkie’s talents, have him talk to any Warrior trainer (the ones you learn new talents from). They will have a dialogue option that says something about wanting to remove your skills or talents or something like that. It will give you a confirmation dialogue. (The first change costs something like 1g.) Before you put in your new talents, I highly suggest that you enable the option that allows you to preview your talent changes. You want to go to Options, then Interface, then a tab that I believe is called Features. There will be a check box to enable talent previews. When you enable it, you will get a confirmation box at the bottom of your talent tree when you’re putting points in. You can click to add talents and right-click to remove them, and they’re not actually used until you click the confirmation. > [@Bosstone](#): > > Psst, **SFG**.Druids use Arcane spells already. Yeah, that’s always been so completely WTF for me that I just stick my fingers in my ears and go, “LALALALALA, NOT REALLY ARCANE DAMAGE.” > [@sohvan](#): > > So Night Elves in general are still opposed to magic and suspicious of the highborne mages, but the playable mages will likely be considered to be highborne. I was also thinking this morning about Tyrande. She already has a history of doing stupidly dangerous, short-sighted things if she thinks she’ll get some immediate benefit (e.g., slaughtering her own people to break Illidan out of his prison). So allowing Night Elf Mages again isn’t so completely out of the realm of responsibility. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > 1. Where is Felalas from Steamwheedle Port? My Q-Helper isn’t showing it - is it toward (in) The Barrens? Ferelas is an entire zone. Steamwheedle is on the coast of Tanaris, right? 1. Go west in Tanaris to the Goblin city of Gadgetzan (it’s in the middle of the very north of the zone–get the flight point while you’re there, if you don’t have it yet). 2. Turn north at Gadget and head into the zone Thousand Needles. 3. Go west through Thousand Needles and you’ll get to Ferelas. > [@](#): > > 1. If a guy has a yellow ? over his head, isn’t he wanting me to turn in a quest? [snip] My quest log doesn’t show it as “complete” Sometimes the quest is just to find somebody. In that case, it won’t be “Complete” until you actually talk to them, but they’ll have their yellow question mark anyway. > [@Broomstick](#): > > **Go naked.** > > Seriously - when you get to the part of the trip where you know you’re going to die, or are likely to die, run naked. You will die faster, yes, _but your gear will take no damage_. This will save you repair bills. This is always how I get to Azuremyst on a Hordie (which I’ve done repeatedly on my Troll Hunter). I get naked, swim to the end of the pier, drown myself, run back and wait at the end of the pier as a ghost, and then rez on the boat when it arrives. Keep in mind: you don’t have a death durability loss if you’re naked, but you will still lose 25% on everything you’re carrying–whether equipped or in your packs–if you choose to rez at a Spirit Healer. Side note: necks, rings, trinkets, relics, ammo, and tabards have no durability, so it’s okay to leave those equipped. > [@Broomstick](#): > > Yes, and the bad results of THAT can be the expansion after Cataclysm… 😃 > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > So I waved and asked, “Wenatchee, Washington?”, at which point she just ran off. And then she ignored my whisper that I live in Wenatchee. Sigh. A lot of people have their chat logs filtered or just don’t watch them. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Also where do I find my honor points? Hit “H.” This will bring up your Honor window. You can see how many Honor Points you have to spend, as well as your Honorable Kills (HKs). > [@Quasimodem](#): > > They’r not in the bank, **IW** so maybe I sold them or sent them to Wollkie to auction? Some quest items can be sold; some can’t. If you can’t find 'em, you can always start over. To be safe, I’d go back to the NPC who gave me the quest, abandon it, then pick it back up again. > [@wheresgeorge04](#): > > Anyway, is it EXTREMELY easy to get gold nowadays? On most servers, yes. Your average daily quest at 80 nets you about 13g (some get you 20g+), so max-level characters tend to have quite a bit to throw around, and a lot of the time it’s easier to just buy the mats to speed-level professions for yourself or your alts than to farm the mats yourself. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I’ve been round and round Dalaran, and I can’t find the plate armor dealer You want a shop in the merchant district called Tanks for Everything. It has an orange stained glass window of an axe. If you look at the merchant district like a rainbow, it’s at the bottom right side (across the road from the herbalist). > [@martu](#): > > Quick question - where will I end up if I log out in an instance? I can’t quite remember–but I think it either boots you outside or to the nearest graveyard. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4264 "2009-08-24T14:58:49Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > You want a shop in the merchant district called Tanks for Everything. Tanks For Everything, First To Your Aid, Simply Enchanting, Like Clockwork… Apparently the pun is the highest form of humor in Dalaran. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4265 "2009-08-24T15:28:29Z")
> [@](#): > > A lot of people have their chat logs filtered or just don’t watch them. I’m horrible with this. I get into questing and don’t even look at my chat window half the time. Hell, I’m in a great guild on Garrosh (the Daily Kos guild, The Wreck List) and half the time I completely lose the thread of guild chat because my attention is on questing. I’ve gone back through my chat log and seen direct whispers that I’ve completely missed. I’m really bad at paying attention to anything but my questing. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4266 "2009-08-24T15:33:17Z")
Finally finally finally dinged exalted with Sons of Hodir. Now what will I do on a daily basis? ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4267 "2009-08-24T15:35:14Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I’m horrible with this. I get into questing and don’t even look at my chat window half the time. Hell, I’m in a great guild on Garrosh (the Daily Kos guild, The Wreck List) and half the time I completely lose the thread of guild chat because my attention is on questing. I’ve gone back through my chat log and seen direct whispers that I’ve completely missed. I’m really bad at paying attention to anything but my questing. I had a similar problem at one point. I’m an add-on junky, to the point that I don’t think I have a single bit of Blizzard’s default UI left and I’m not sure how much other people like them, but I found WIM to be very useful for this. It pops up tells in a separate window much like AOL Instant Messanger that is very configurable (eg, hide in combat, single window with multiple tabs, etc.). After getting that, I seldom miss tells unless I get several from several different people at the same time. As for guild chat, I’ve also found that getting a mod that will highlight anything in a text window with my character’s name and add it to SCT very helpful. That way, if it’s something where people want my input and to the point where they say my name, I don’t miss it. I use Chatter (I think Prat does more or less the same), and they also have a lot of other nifty features built in for making chat more fluid. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4268 "2009-08-24T15:36:45Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > Finally finally finally dinged exalted with Sons of Hodir. Now what will I do on a daily basis? The Argent Tournament is an awesome time-killer. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4269 "2009-08-24T16:02:32Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Apparently the pun is the highest form of humor in Dalaran. Dalaran, nothing. All of Azeroth is full of puns. > [@FlightlessBird](#): > > Finally finally finally dinged exalted with Sons of Hodir. Now what will I do on a daily basis? ARGENT TOURNAMENT GOGOGOGOGO ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4270 "2009-08-24T16:08:57Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Dalaran, nothing. All of Azeroth is full of puns. Oh definitely. It just seems so out of place in the magocratic city of lights. Show Gnomercy, bahaha… ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4271 "2009-08-24T16:54:39Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Sometimes the quest is just to find somebody. In that case, it won’t be “Complete” until you actually talk to them, but they’ll have their yellow question mark anyway. OTOH, I frequently have quests in my log that are labeled “Complete” when they most certainly are _not_, so I wouldn’t depend on that as an indicator. > [@](#): > > A lot of people have their chat logs filtered or just don’t watch them. Thing is, my first attempt at communication wasn’t a whisper. When I portaled into SW, this other character was standing in exactly the same spot I was and I saw her name in the tooltip as I started moving and my mouse passed over her. I immediately stopped and turned around so I was facing her (if it was the real world, I was probably 6-10 feet away) and spoke via /s in dialogue bubbles, so she could hardly have missed it (unless there’s an option to turn _those_ off the same way you can turn Party Chat bubbles off). > [@](#): > > You want a shop in the merchant district called Tanks for Everything. It has an orange stained glass window of an axe. If you look at the merchant district like a rainbow, it’s at the bottom right side (across the road from the herbalist). Thanks - it didn’t even occur to me to look there, as my brain processed that area as “Here there be trainers” 😛 I went ahead and sprung for the [black shoulders](http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3823713&l=815c114adc&id=661212628) for my [draenei fire mage](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Lightbringer&n=Svelexi). As luck would have it, the [Darkcloth Shoulderpads](http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=39894) of Concentration were still there on the AH for 132g (which I wasn’t going to pay), but this time there was also a Darkcloth Shoulderpads of The Owl for 85g, which I didn’t mind paying. Now I just need some black gloves to complete the look. Those are easier to find and less expensive than the shoulders, but the gloves Svelexi is currently wearing have the “of Fiery Wrath” suffix, giving me +10 to my Fire spells, and I don’t want to give that up right now. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4272 "2009-08-24T16:57:22Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Thing is, my first attempt at communication wasn’t a whisper. When I portaled into SW, this other character was standing in exactly the same spot I was and I saw her name in the tooltip as I started moving and my mouse passed over her. I immediately stopped and turned around so I was facing her (if it was the real world, I was probably 6-10 feet away) and spoke via /s in dialogue bubbles, so she could hardly have missed it (unless there’s an option to turn _those_ off the same way you can turn Party Chat bubbles off). 1.) She might have been AFK. 2.) She might have had other windows up such as tradeskills or talent points. 3.) She might have just not been watching. (I have /say hidden in the chat window I usually use and I don’t usually read the bubbles around me, especially if I’m doing something else.) ---
**Author:** ![Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Words_on_the_Interweb)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4273 "2009-08-24T17:54:27Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > and spoke via /s in dialogue bubbles, so she could hardly have missed it (unless there’s an option to turn _those_ off the same way you can turn Party Chat bubbles off). There is, and I always have all chat bubbles off - I find them distracting and annoying, and I really don’t like feeling as if I’m playing in a comic book, heh. It’s easy to miss /say chat if you have a high-activity guild or general or trade channels on that cause fast scrolling. Heck, sometimes I miss /say just because it’s white text and doesn’t really catch my eye - there’s a reason my “important” channels are garishly coloured. ---
**Author:** ![FlightlessBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/cdc98d/32.png) [@FlightlessBird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlightlessBird)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4274 "2009-08-24T18:28:59Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > The Argent Tournament is an awesome time-killer. I guess that’ll do, but not for very long, I’m already exalted with 4/5 of the races. So what’s that? 5 days? ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4275 "2009-08-24T18:41:10Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > The Argent Tournament is an awesome time-killer. > [@FlightlessBird](#): > > I guess that’ll do, but not for very long, I’m already exalted with 4/5 of the races. So what’s that? 5 days? It takes about 10 days to get through the preliminary dailies, and then you can earn about 5 currency units a day through dailies to buy nifty shiny things. 30 currency units gets you an epic weapon (at least for Tauren, I don’t know if the other Horde quartermasters have different purples available) that’s roughly equivalent to a titansteel (whatever). There are also several different blue items, as well as tons of tabards, mounts, vanity pets, et cetera et cetera. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4276 "2009-08-24T18:42:14Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > I guess that’ll do, but not for very long, I’m already exalted with 4/5 of the races. So what’s that? 5 days? It’s worth more than just rep. You can make a lot of money doing it, and the Champion’s Seals are nice for things like the squire who can make bank trips for you, a tabard that can teleport you there (nice for doing the raid or dungeon), and you can buy some epics with them too if you’re still trying to gear up. I finished the Crusader thing a while ago, but I still try to do them every day because I make around 160g or so in about 20 minutes which generally covers the expenses for a night of raiding. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4277 "2009-08-24T18:42:27Z")
> [@FlightlessBird](#): > > I guess that’ll do, but not for very long, I’m already exalted with 4/5 of the races. So what’s that? 5 days? Yeah, but once you get the Crusader title a whole other set of daily quests appears… it becomes a bit of a grind but there are some pretty cool rewards for the Crusader Seals (the [Dragonhawk mount](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46814) in particular is bad-ass). ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4278 "2009-08-24T19:39:46Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > It takes about 10 days to get through the preliminary dailies, and then you can earn about 5 currency units a day through dailies to buy nifty shiny things. 30 currency units gets you an epic weapon (at least for Tauren, I don’t know if the other Horde quartermasters have different purples available) that’s roughly equivalent to a titansteel (whatever). There are also several different blue items, as well as tons of tabards, mounts, vanity pets, et cetera et cetera. I’ve started doing the Argent dailies too, now that I have the “lower level” Hodir shoulder enchants on all my toons. Some of the items seem well worth the time. Right now, my eye is on weapons. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4279 "2009-08-24T19:42:21Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > How does Horde get to Azuremyst Isle and Teldrasil? We ride the boat while doing our [For The Horde] festivities 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4280 "2009-08-24T19:43:18Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > (at least for Tauren, I don’t know if the other Horde quartermasters have different purples available) Nope. The only differences between what the quartermasters sell are the mounts, tabards, and pets. All the useful stuff is standard across all 5 factions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=213) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=215)