# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 217
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4321 "2009-08-25T18:59:20Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Oh! Okay! I’ve just always been going to Lyria, because she’s, well, _female_, and she’s got those _things_ stickin’ out (even though they’re behind armor). > > I guess I have a “thang” for female toons in Azeroth.:rolleyes: > > Don’t tell my wife, okay?😃 > > Thanks, **SFG**! > > Quasi/Wolkie and Silka OMG Quasi. You don’t play one handed do you? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4322 "2009-08-25T19:00:51Z")
> [@Darwins\_Finch](#): > > Definitely not. > > My usual method is as follows: > > 1. Initiate the fight. the opponent will start moving towards the center of the ring. > 2. As soon as the opponent is at charge range, charge. Try to hit “1” as you pass by during the charge, as well. That way, you get in a double-hit. > 3. After the charge, wheel around and try to hit the Shield-Breaker. If you have enough range, you’ll be able to get it off. Many times, you won’t though (especially when you are just learning). > 4. Close the distance immediately. > 5. Begin trading blows at close range until the opponent peels off. Recharge shield as necessary. > 6. As soon as the opponent peels off for a charge, stand back, and charge as soon as you are able. Again, try to hit “1” as you pass. > 7. Repeat steps 3-6 until the opponent is defeated. > > A charge will drop 2 shields on your foe (though they will often immediately recharge, so it will look like only 1 was dropped). If you can get in the shield-breaker during the wheel-around, you can effectively drop their shields by step 3, and begin wailing on them at close range while they have minimal or no shields. In many cases, they will peel off again before they have fully recharged their shields, which allows your subsequent charges do a lot more damage. > > It takes some practice, of course, but eventually, you’ll be able to get through a full set of valiants without even healing 🙂 Huhm. May have to try this method. Thank you Darwin. ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4323 "2009-08-25T19:30:41Z")
I’m no Darwin, I’m just his finch 🙂 Another helpful hint: all too frequently, the opponents will decide they’d rather fight outside of the ring, which is usually a pain, both because of the large number of obstacles and because of the possibility of resetting if you venture too far out of bounds. Thus, I like to start backing towards the center of the ring when things get too close to the edge. As often as not, you’ll be able to throw in an extra shield breaker while doing so. If the AI is feeling particularly dumb, you might even be able to back up to charge range, at which you can just charge them. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4324 "2009-08-25T20:05:22Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > I I do not like jousting. No sane person does. My main objections have to do with (a) vehicle mechanics, i.e., that I can’t do a straight 180 turn but rather have to take the time to loop around, and (b) inequal opponent abilities, e.g., some AI jousters can do things I can’t, like break my shields at melee range. I skip all of the jousting dailies except for Battle before the Citadel, which I do with at least one other person. AFAIK, this is the only jousting quest where two people get credit for the same kill. The ones you do at the Tournament grounds won’t even let another jouster attack the target while mounted. Side note: for the other jousting quests and dailies, others \*\*can \*\*attack your target **from the ground**. So if you’re having a really terrible time, try bringing some friends with you to hammer on the jouster you’re trying to kill. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4325 "2009-08-25T20:11:12Z")
I think multiples get credit for the baby Battle Before the Citadel quest - the one that’s part of the qualify-for-valiant daily package. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4326 "2009-08-25T20:22:08Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I think multiples get credit for the baby Battle Before the Citadel quest - the one that’s part of the qualify-for-valiant daily package. So… exactly what I just said in the post above you, to which you are presumably responding? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4327 "2009-08-25T20:47:34Z")
No I mean the one where you have to kill 3 lieutenants, 15 soldiers and 10 scouts or whatever, not the one where you kill 3 commanders. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4328 "2009-08-25T21:20:39Z")
Sorry, I thought it was clear that I was referring to both quests called Battle before the Citadel, which are the only two jousting quests that take place off the Tournament grounds, since I did not specify which of them I was talking about, and I did offer the contrast that the ones where you can’t share kills take place on the Tournament grounds. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4329 "2009-08-25T21:24:23Z")
All day long I have felt soooo rotten because of something I allowed to happen last night while playing, and I came here to apologize to **SFG** and to **Everyone** who has been so helpful to me. My friend **SFG** spent part of her weekend setting Wolkie’s talent tree up for Fury, but because my sorry ass can’t say no to anyone, I’m afraid I might have hurt her (and y’all’s) feelings by what I’m about to tell you. As you all know, I have an in-game guru, who has been sooo nice and helpful helping me with instances and grouping with me to help me level, and he felt he needed to set me up for protection, and I’m afraid I wimped out and we did that. I have already PM’D **SFG** to explain and asked her for forgiveness and now I’m asking it of all of you. I have no excuse other than I don’t like to hurt anyone’s feelings and I like to be appreciative of ALL that y’all and anyone does for me, because I need all the help I can get playing WoW. I love you kids so much and this place is very important to me, and I feel like I have hurt my friend and all my friends here. I hope you accept my apology, and as I wrote **SFG** , I wouldn’t blame you if you didn’t. Quasi/Wolkie and Silka ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4330 "2009-08-25T21:29:04Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Sorry, I thought it was clear that I was referring to both quests called Battle before the Citadel, which are the only two jousting quests that take place off the Tournament grounds, since I did not specify which of them I was talking about, and I did offer the contrast that the ones where you can’t share kills take place on the Tournament grounds. Ah. I thought the baby one had a different name. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4331 "2009-08-25T21:39:57Z")
Quasi, I don’t think anyone will take it personally, so you don’t have to feel bad. But I think Protection is an interesting choice if you do most of your questing by yourself, soloing. Most Protection builds are used to “tank” as part of a group in a dungeon, because you can take a beating and have a lot of skills that allow you to take and hold aggro. Taking and holding aggro are not a problem when you solo. And being able to take a beating is nice, but it also means you do less damage and it takes a lot longer to kill things than it would with an Arms or Fury spec. But don’t feel bad… try Prot for a while and see how you like it. You can always change again later (for gold, of course!). I have a Paladin who is specced Protection and I love it – but he pretty much does nothing but group instances. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4332 "2009-08-25T21:50:10Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > All day long I have felt soooo rotten because of something I allowed to happen last night while playing, and I came here to apologize to **SFG** and to **Everyone** who has been so helpful to me. No worries, Quasi–you’ve got nothing to apologize for! And if it comes down to taking the option given by the people you talk to versus the person who actually plays with you… IMO it makes more sense to do the one that the person you play with wants! > [@Skammer](#): > > But I think Protection is an interesting choice if you do most of your questing by yourself, soloing. Most Protection builds are used to “tank” as part of a group in a dungeon, because you can take a beating and have a lot of skills that allow you to take and hold aggro. > > Taking and holding aggro are not a problem when you solo. And being able to take a beating is nice, but it also means you do less damage and it takes a lot longer to kill things than it would with an Arms or Fury spec. I actually leveled all the way from my first point at level 10 as Prot, mostly because tanking is what I wanted to do and I’m a stubborn bitch that way. (My main was never, ever Arms or Fury until the dual spec system went live, although she did put together a DPS set to make dailies faster once she hit 70, and to make her a more useful offtank.) Prot is actually a \*\*lot \*\*more viable as a leveling spec now. You’ll still kill things faster as Arms or Fury, but it’s not a huge difference, and you get a lot of survivability in return. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4333 "2009-08-25T22:08:33Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I actually leveled all the way from my first point at level 10 as Prot, mostly because tanking is what I wanted to do and I’m a stubborn bitch that way. (My main was never, ever Arms or Fury until the dual spec system went live, although she did put together a DPS set to make dailies faster once she hit 70, and to make her a more useful offtank.) Prot is actually a \*\*lot \*\*more viable as a leveling spec now. You’ll still kill things faster as Arms or Fury, but it’s not a huge difference, and you get a lot of survivability in return. Hey, sounds fine to me. Of course my priest leveled as Holy, so I know from killing things slowly 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4334 "2009-08-25T22:25:49Z")
Thanks, kids. As I wrote **SFG** , WoW is MORE than just a game to me: It’s saving my _mental_ life, and so, indirectly, are y’all! Know what else? I don’t know how I did it, but somehow I wound up spending 1K of that ill-begotten Gold! Down to 536 now! 😉 Thanks Quasi/Wolkie & Silka ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4335 "2009-08-25T22:55:25Z")
Awww, dang. I’m stuck on the “Authenticating” window when logging in…what do I need to do (download something?) to resolve this issue? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4336 "2009-08-25T23:35:50Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Awww, dang. I’m stuck on the “Authenticating” window when logging in…what do I need to do (download something?) to resolve this issue? It’s a problem on Blizzard’s end. It can theoretically be solved by merging your WoW account with your [Battle.net](http://Battle.net) account, since only [non-Battle.net](http://non-Battle.net) accounts are getting hit. I tried to set up a [Battle.net](http://Battle.net) account but had issues, and by the time I realized [Battle.net](http://Battle.net) wasn’t working properly I was able to get into WoW. So just give it some time and Blizzard should have the issue fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4337 "2009-08-26T05:28:36Z")
Who helped me with some quests last night! I left abruptly because I took a tumble down the stairs carrying a basket of clothes and had to go to ER! I’m sorry, Hon! I tried to combine it with a bio-break, and I know you must have wondered about how long it takes a guy to get off the terlet! Looks like I cain’t win fer losin’, Kiddos! 🙂 Quasi/Wolkie&Silka (who must be wondering where her daddy went!) ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4338 "2009-08-26T12:25:30Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Who helped me with some quests last night! > > I left abruptly because I took a tumble down the stairs carrying a basket of clothes and had to go to ER! > > I’m sorry, Hon! > > I tried to combine it with a bio-break, and I know you must have wondered about how long it takes a guy to get off the terlet! > > Looks like I cain’t win fer losin’, Kiddos! 🙂 > > Quasi/Wolkie&Silka (who must be wondering where her daddy went!) EEK! Hope nothing got broken … I had dinner with mrAru and snuggled in bed while watching him play eve online until I fell asleep … the neurotin seems to be helping, the RLS was vastly lessened after 2 days[3xday] ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4339 "2009-08-26T12:27:08Z")
Quasi would love to get his character invited in … but whenever he is in game, nobody else is in game to invite him … if you make Sonnenstrahl able to invite him, we can get him into the guild…I think he would benefit greatly by moving his play over to Cairne because we understand his limitations … ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4340 "2009-08-26T13:53:20Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Quasi would love to get his character invited in … but whenever he is in game, nobody else is in game to invite him … if you make Sonnenstrahl able to invite him, we can get him into the guild…I think he would benefit greatly by moving his play over to Cairne because we understand his limitations … What time do you guys play? I was on for several hours Monday night and a little last night and didn’t see either of you… In any case, I’ll be on from about 8 till 10:30 or 11 server time. If I don’t see you I’ll try to remember to promote Sonnenstrahl to be able to /ginvite. Speaking of the Burning Dogs, it’s Wednesday night which is Alt Dungeon Night! Tonight we venture back into the dark, wet confines of the Sunken Temple of Atal’Hakkar. Many Trolls and Dragonkin will meet their demise this day, I promise you. And with luck I’ll get that nice new shield. If you have a Hordie on Cairne in the right level range (46 - 50s) come join us! We’ll try to get started around 8:45 server time/Central time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=216) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=218)