# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 222
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4421 "2009-08-28T16:16:37Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > You know what? I was thinking of the portal, not the teleport. You don’t get the TB \*\*portal \*\*until after the Stonard one. Mea culpa! Aha, yes. You get the Teleport and Portal for Theramore and Stonard at the same time, then back to the racial cities for the Portals. > [@](#): > > Hrm, I’m not sure if it would work that way. If there’s no faction, there can’t be a discount–the mechanic just wouldn’t be there. I can vouch for this. On my Hunter, I goofed up and went to the Shadowmoon Valley flight trainer instead of the new Honor Hold one. The Shadowmoon Valley trainer _does not_ have a faction, and I wound up paying the full 600g for Expert riding. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4422 "2009-08-28T16:22:40Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Draenei have hooves. They made it work. So do the tauren. But naga have 0 legs and 0 feet! :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4423 "2009-08-28T16:24:44Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I can vouch for this. On my Hunter, I goofed up and went to the Shadowmoon Valley flight trainer instead of the new Honor Hold one. The Shadowmoon Valley trainer _does not_ have a faction, and I wound up paying the full 600g for Expert riding. :smack: That doesn’t apply here, though–we’re talking about the proposed Goblin racial discount. So, the question is, for vendors who have no faction, would they still get a discount? My guess is that because there’s no faction, the mechanic isn’t there to give them the discount, but there’s no way to currently test that. > [@shinto46](#): > > So do the tauren. But naga have 0 legs and 0 feet! :smack: But they have tails! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4424 "2009-08-28T16:26:18Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Not to mention the short, greedy, “rootless” Je^H^HGoblins. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > … Whoa. They do have big ol’ noses, don’t they? 😉 The page on “Space Jews” in TVTropes (not linked because maybe you have something else you want to do today) points out ways in which Goblins, Gnomes, and Dwarves all have stereotypically Jewish traits, if you look at them the right way. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4425 "2009-08-28T16:31:40Z")
Where/Whom do I visit to spend them on something and what is available to Wolkie at 43? I checked WoW Wiki, and their example is only a level 80, yet I seem to remember being somewhere recently and being asked if I were sure I wanted to spend my honor points on a particular item? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4426 "2009-08-28T16:36:30Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > From a lore standpoint, though, the current Horde _is_ the Orcs (and Trolls, who might as well be honorary Orcs) and the Tauren. Don’t forget the Man-Faced Tauren, aka, the Taunka (there was a quest chain in Northrend, after all, which made a big deal of admitting them into the Horde). Not that we’ve seen much of them after that, or that they’re all that different from Regular Tauren… ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4427 "2009-08-28T16:39:46Z")
> [@Darwins\_Finch](#): > > Don’t forget the Man-Faced Tauren, aka, the Taunka (there was a quest chain in Northrend, after all, which made a big deal of admitting them into the Horde). Not that we’ve seen much of them after that, or that they’re all that different from Regular Tauren… Huh, they looked like buffaloes to me, rather than man-faced. The males, that is - note that the female Taunka look exactly like female Tauren. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4428 "2009-08-28T16:40:00Z")
> [@Darwins\_Finch](#): > > Don’t forget the Man-Faced Tauren, aka, the Taunka (there was a quest chain in Northrend, after all, which made a big deal of admitting them into the Horde). Not that we’ve seen much of them after that, or that they’re all that different from Regular Tauren… They’re not really man-faced, are they? I always thought they had just descended from bison instead of cows, so their faces are flatter. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4429 "2009-08-28T16:43:20Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > They’re not really man-faced, are they? I always thought they had just descended from bison instead of cows, so their faces are flatter. Pretty sure you’re right, but man did they startle me when I first saw one. Creepy-looking SOBs. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4430 "2009-08-28T16:48:12Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Where/Whom do I visit to spend them on something and what is available to Wolkie at 43? 11 points isn’t going to be enough to buy any equipment with. Most things that only cost Honor instead of Honor + Marks of Honor from a BG (battleground) cost a couple thousand, if I recall correctly. And Honor Points are used to purchase gear that’s intended for use in PvP–that’s player versus player. It’s not going to be that useful to you out in the world, where you’re engaging in PvE–player versus environment, i.e., the computer-controlled mobs. ---
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4431 "2009-08-28T16:59:06Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Where/Whom do I visit to spend them on something and what is available to Wolkie at 43? > > I checked WoW Wiki, and their example is only a level 80, yet I seem to remember being somewhere recently and being asked if I were sure I wanted to spend my honor points on a particular item? > > Thanks > > Q At your level the best place to buy PvP gear would be from the Quartermasters located outside the actual WSG and AB instance portals. Warsong Gulch is located in Silverwing Grove, just to the west of the horde gate leading to Barrens and Arathi Basin is located at Refuge Point in the Highlands. You will need tokens from those BG’s in addition to the Honor Points. You might also be allowed to purchase some items from the PvP Quarter Master in SW. Most of those items are for level 60, 70, 80 IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4432 "2009-08-28T17:00:21Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > They’re not really man-faced, are they? I always thought they had just descended from bison instead of cows, so their faces are flatter. Yeah, they were supposedly bison-like. But (from a distance, at least) the males just look so _weird_, like they took a human’s face and stuck it on a Tauren head, or something. It took some close examination on my part to see that they were really going for “bison”. ---
**Author:** ![Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Words_on_the_Interweb)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4433 "2009-08-28T17:14:40Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Huh, they looked like buffaloes to me, rather than man-faced. The males, that is - note that the female Taunka look exactly like female Tauren. Yeah, Blizz dropped the ball with Taunka - the male heads are very very poorly attached to Tauren bodies (if you look, you can easily see the seam), and the female models never got done at all (I remember it being discussed during WotLK beta). I guess they decided not to invest any more art team time in a limited-use model. Or something. I’m still a little disappointed they didn’t bother making them look “right”, considering most of the rest of Northrend is pretty well-done. As far as the flatness of the male faces, I always felt like it was mostly a texture problem - they don’t have the proper shading to really look 3d. If you look at them from the side, the model “terrain” is there, but straight on, they just look like Halloween masks. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4434 "2009-08-28T17:40:03Z")
Makes me wanna clear my throat just listening to him. Also why’d they leave out BC in showing the original WoW and expansions in the ad? I bought that damn thing thinking I HAD to buy every expansion in order to continue playing the game. And, Cataclysm only lets you level to 85? Isn’t that kinda puny? Only 5 levels up from 80 on Lich King? Don’t mind me. Must be the hydrocodone! 😃 Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4435 "2009-08-28T17:55:31Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Well, they kinda “go together”, don’t they? > > “ **Sunbeam** ” and “ **Cloudwalker** ”. > > I’m going to try to get some game time in today, so maybe I’ll see you later! > > Thanks > > Quasi/Wolkie Well yes=) Though in games I go for Sonnenschein, Mondlicht, Sonnenstrahl and Mondstrahl. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4436 "2009-08-28T18:37:05Z")
Well, I am now Azeroth’s version of Anthony Bourdain, I got my Chef title last night to go with my Explorer Title I got last month. 12 more recipes left for Chef de Cuisine and about 50 more Dalaran cooking awards for the Chef’s hat and then I can start my own show. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4437 "2009-08-28T18:46:23Z")
Yeti, you’re way ahead of me in recipes (I need about 30 I think) but I’m only 15 awards short of the Chef’s Hat! - Chef Kene ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4438 "2009-08-28T18:59:57Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Makes me wanna clear my throat just listening to him. > > Also why’d they leave out BC in showing the original WoW and expansions in the ad? > > I bought that damn thing thinking I HAD to buy every expansion in order to continue playing the game. > > And, Cataclysm only lets you level to 85? > > Isn’t that kinda puny? Only 5 levels up from 80 on Lich King? > > Don’t mind me. Must be the hydrocodone! 😃 > > Thanks > > Q BC is necessary to get above lvl 60, period. You would be stuck at 60 as a level cap if you didn’t have BC. And you wouldn’t be able to install Wrath if you didn’t have BC, either. So it IS necessary in the general progression of the game. Also, they didn’t show Outland probably because it’s not going to be affected much by the Cataclysm. It’s not even the same planet as Azeroth. And the new level cap is 85 because the 1-60 leveling areas in Old Azeroth are going to be thoroughly redesigned. The Cataclysm is going to change just about every zone in the old world dramatically, and the old leveling game is changing almost completely. They basically traded off a huge overhaul of the 1-60 leveling progression in exchange for those last 5 levels to round it out to 90. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4439 "2009-08-28T19:31:07Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Well yes=) > > Though in games I go for Sonnenschein, Mondlicht, Sonnenstrahl and Mondstrahl. Except **Wolkie’s** on Alex and **Sonnie’s** on Cairne, so in BDL, it will be **Quasimodem** (YAY!) with **Sonnenstrahl** , right? :). Also I looked up **aruvqan** to see if that name too, might refer to a heavenly body, but couldn’t come up with anything. If I said **you** had/were a “heavenly body” you wouldn’t hold it against me, wouldya’ **a**?:D:D:D HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, GOD, I kill me!!!:D:D:D **IT’S THE HYDROCODONE!!!** ;)😉 Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4440 "2009-08-28T19:39:21Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > BC is necessary to get above lvl 60, period. You would be stuck at 60 as a level cap if you didn’t have BC. And you wouldn’t be able to install Wrath if you didn’t have BC, either. So it IS necessary in the general progression of the game. Okay, **jay** , but since I’m just 43 at present, I’m not going to have to run right out and buy Cataclsym, right? Also, st some point, adding all the the expansions, am I going to need to be worried about adding more memory? Right now, I have 70% free space on my IBuy… Thanks Q [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=221) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=223)