# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 225
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4481 "2009-08-30T18:38:36Z")
> [@Goblinboy](#): > > Yeah, I saw that. Spent a lot of time reading this thread, which was part of the reason I signed back up. > > So should I just log on and join SDMB and say hi then? Yes, that’s the best way to do it, I think. Or you could do a /who Burning Dog Legion and see who’s on. I didn’t mean to suggest that you didn’t read the thread, though I certainly wouldn’t have blamed you for not doing so…it’s a monster! ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4482 "2009-08-30T18:50:38Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > …it’s a monster! So to speak! 😉 Hope to see over there **Goblinboy**!🙂 Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4483 "2009-08-30T19:19:35Z")
Got invited by Rheingaard to BDL, and now I’m just like the rest of you cute, furry babies with the long teeth and unabrows! 🙂 Thanks for letting me join and see y’all soon! Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4484 "2009-08-30T19:27:51Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > JMO, but if it’s done “across the board”, (meaning as many cultures as possible being included in the way they communicate with us), how can that be offensive (if that’s the way you meant that, that is, **DOR** )? Well, it seems to me that there’s a big difference in trying to offend everyone equally, and trying _not_ to offend everyone equally. I could be wrong, though. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4485 "2009-08-30T19:51:41Z")
It depends on how the stereotyped group reacts to it. Jamaicans probably don’t know and don’t care about the trolls, for example, but China’s government has a major stick up its ass and would raise holy hell at an Asian stereotype, even if it was no worse than others in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4486 "2009-08-30T20:40:07Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > Well, it seems to me that there’s a big difference in trying to offend everyone equally, and trying _not_ to offend everyone equally. I could be wrong, though. 😕:)😕:)😕🙂 Hmmmmm. Can I get back to you on that one, _Tel_? J/K!😃 And **Boss’s** reply, too, is valid. I just hadn’t thought it all the way through. Apparently! :D:D:D But, if I may be allowed to dig myself in a little “deeper”?:smack: Those who play WoW in say, Germany, they “hear” their NPC’s etc. in German, right? How do THEY handle different “regionalities/cultures” or is it even an issue? Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4487 "2009-08-30T20:54:38Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Hmm… my friend who does a lot of endgame raiding tells me not to even look into playing a CC Hunter. Is this true? Is it all about the AoE damage? In that case, too, wouldn’t everybody just have one Druid, one 'Lock, one 'Hunter etc for buffs and stuff everything else into Mage? A quick search on [Wow-heroes.com](http://Wow-heroes.com) shows that a pretty large percentage of top guild hunters on my server are survival. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4488 "2009-08-30T20:55:30Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > It depends on how the stereotyped group reacts to it. Jamaicans probably don’t know and don’t care about the trolls, for example, but China’s government has a major stick up its ass and would raise holy hell at an Asian stereotype, even if it was no worse than others in the game. Of course, Blizzard could just make the pandaren all gold farmers… ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4489 "2009-08-30T20:58:36Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > That’s very sad to me, and CC was always my favorite. Oh well, there’s always PvP, and I usually did better in that anyway. I think I saw an interview where some Blizzard representative says that they are going to try to make boss encounters more C oriented and make CC useful for trash pulls. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4490 "2009-08-30T21:20:12Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I’m still trying to decide if I want to try tanking or DPSing as Feral. I know I want to primarily do Resto, but I’m thinking that even within Feral I can lean one way or the other. Even if I can do both with one Feral spec, it might be too much maintaining three sets of gear anyway. > > I’m so looking forward to talenting as Resto, though. I’ve already healed for two different PUGs and had a lot of fun with it, and other than wearing +Int gear I’m not set up for healing at all. The sheer amount of healing power in the Resto tree is making my eyes light up. I just need 1000 gold and 11 more levels. I’ve been resto/feral for a little while and the problem is that while feral DPS and feral tanks have very similar talent trees, there are some serious differences. I ultimately chose to go resto/DPS with a set of tanking gear. The reason is that there are very few raid encounters when you need or want to trade off healers for an off spec tank (unless your guild is in the almost unheard of position of having too many healers) but there are plenty of situations where you may want to trade off a healer for an off spec DPS. Of course it is nice for an offtank to be able to go DPS after you have burned down the offtank mob but it is also nice to have an OH SH!T button for the raid when a tank goes down and the healers need someone to absorb damage just long enough to battlerez one of the “real” tanks. Have you thought about going resto/boomkin? I know a lot of folks that are happy with that combo. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4491 "2009-08-30T21:25:20Z")
> [@col\_10022](#): > > Have you thought about going resto/boomkin? I know a lot of folks that are happy with that combo. It’s a thought, but I figured I’d hang onto Feral as a solo spec. I know I did try leveling Balance 10-20 and got tired of it quickly, but endgame Balance might certainly be a different beast. I’ll have to look into it when I get there. For now, I’m a very happy level 33 cat. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4492 "2009-08-30T21:31:57Z")
I just told my wife that I might need to go _“resto-boomkin”_, and she just said, “Okay, but remember to flush this time!” **Og!** You kids and your terminology! 🙂 I’ll go to my **grave** with a list of all the things I don’t understand about WoW! 🙂 Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4493 "2009-08-30T21:38:31Z")
Yay! Just call me **Master Angler of Stranglethorn**! 40 Tastyfish in just over 16 minutes 😃 I somehow managed to have Yojamba Isle almost entirely to myself. The best part is … no more entering the fishing contest! I also fished up one of the rare tournament fish; naturally it was the same one I fished up before, so now I have _two_ pairs of Nat Pagle’s Extreme Anglin’ Boots :smack: In other news, I’ve officially dropped Mining and am in the process of leveling Enchanting. Would you believe I found knuckleheads selling stacks of saronite **bars** for 20g on the AH? They _vendor_ for 25g … ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4494 "2009-08-30T21:46:55Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Semi-related question: does anyone have information on Druid weapon skill? My chance to hit while in Bear and Cat form doesn’t seem to be based on my 2-Handed Mace skill, since that’s very very low, but I haven’t found any info on what it is based on. Is it just assumed to be automatically Level x 5? I do seem to get dodged/parried/blocked a lot more often as Feral than I recall being on my other melee characters, but I have no way to compare. Yep its automatically maxxed. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4495 "2009-08-30T21:48:36Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > For druid tanks, this is directly opposite of the advice given above in the thread **Darwin’s Finch** posted. ☹ My confusion is understandable, I assume. Getting defense capped is to eliminate crits. Druids have a talent that makes them uncritable so they don’t have to worry about defense. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4496 "2009-08-30T23:09:20Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Yay! Just call me **Master Angler of Stranglethorn**! > > 40 Tastyfish in just over 16 minutes 😃 I somehow managed to have Yojamba Isle almost entirely to myself. > > The best part is … no more entering the fishing contest! Congratulations! I’m green with envy 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4497 "2009-08-31T02:53:49Z")
Trying to get that water survey quest done in Gadgezan, and got killed? So I go the spirit healer and accept all her stuff? Then sit down to relax/mana up and wait out the 10 minutes? And STILL get attacked??? And die all over AGAIN??? So, hell, I just hearthed out to Heather in Sentinel Hill. Me and Wolkie don’t need this shit! So I guess even graveyards aren’t safe anymore, huh? 🙂 Q ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4498 "2009-08-31T06:32:31Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Yay! Just call me **Master Angler of Stranglethorn**! Major grats! One of these days, I’ll have to enter that contest again. I just have bigger, er…fish to fry…at the moment… Speaking of which, I finally managed to find a few hours’ play time this past week, so have been able to get up to half-way through revered with Zandalar (made a run-through ZG with a friend), and 25% of the way through revered with Ravenholdt. I could power my way to exalted with both factions IF I had a full weekend to play, which won’t happen for a while, I’m sure. So I’ll just have to take an hour here or there when I can find it. I’ve found that I can earn about a bar’s worth of rep for Ravenholdt each hour or so, so I’ve got about 15 more hours worth of pick-pocketing to go with them. Not as bad as I thought it would be, really. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4499 "2009-08-31T15:49:21Z")
Massive multi-quote post from SFG? Must be Monday! 😃 > [@Quasimodem](#): > > It’s akin to running like hell after you’ve just committed some prank, being so tired, but also gigglin’ your ass off as your’re bending over with both hands on your thighs trying to catch your breath! 😃 Can you picture that? I can, and that’s now going to be my mental picture anytime one of my chars has to flee combat. 😃 > [@](#): > > The Monkey is the weaker sword, but the shield AND the Monkey make him stronger, whereas the Witchfury is the stronger sword, but again, no shield. When you’re looking at weapon or offhand stats, you always want to look at them **as you will have them equipped**. A two-handed sword is always going to better than a one-handed sword of the same quality and level, because when you have a 2H weapon equipped, you can’t hold anything else.\* So don’t think of it as “2H sword vs. 1H sword,” think of it as “2H sword vs. 1H sword PLUS shield, or PLUS another 1H sword.” Since Wolkie specced into Protection, you want to keep a 1H weapon (preferably a sword or a mace, since you’re Human) and a shield. \*Unless you’re a Fury Warrior with the 51-point talent Titan’s Grip. > [@Nava](#): > > No, I’m trying to explain that prioritizing something doesn’t mean setting everything else aside, as those guys do. [snip] I guess I’m just tired of trying to explain this to the five guildies, five, who keep going off defcap because “X webpage says I need 31K hp to go to Y place and I only had 30K!” :smack: I see where you’re coming from, then. I had the mistaken impression that you were arguing \*\*for \*\*that kind of focus (with regard to Hit) rather than against it. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > When that happens, (a non-PVP attacking another character - whether **they** are PVP or not) do they notice it? It is physically impossible for you to attack a friendly target out in the world without first having one party issue a duel challenge and the other party accept. Your targeted attacks will not trigger, and your AOE attacks (like Thunder Clap) will go off, but will not affect the friendly player in any way. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Fahrenz, my human warrior on a RP server, just joined a guild, and apparently a large number of people in the guild have this addon, so I’m seeing just how annoying it is from the other side. So annoying. \*\*SO \*\*annoying. I hate autograts addons with a passion that exceeds the heat of a thousand billion suns. Ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh, ugh. > [@Nava](#): > > Excuse me: the Scottish female dwarves, Cossack male dwarves and Indian space goats. Draenei are supposed to be Indian? Really? I never got that at all. I mean, yeah, the males got the “Tunak Tunak Tun” dance, but so what? Their accent doesn’t sound the least bit like something you’d get from a native speaker of Hindi or Urdu or anything else you might find in India–always sounded like some mangled combination of Greek and Russian to me. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Got invited by Rheingaard to BDL, and now I’m just like the rest of you cute, furry babies with the long teeth and unabrows! Woohoo! I don’t get on very much, but I have a Troll Hunter named Hasati, and a Blood Elf DK I use for farming mats/making money named Getpaid. Hope to see you there sometime! > [@jayjay](#): > > Of course, Blizzard could just make the pandaren all gold farmers… IRL LOL FTW > [@col\_10022](#): > > Have you thought about going resto/boomkin? I know a lot of folks that are happy with that combo. That’s what my pocket healer has, and he likes it. There’s also a much bigger initial overlap in gear. (You can start out as Boomkin using your Resto set, but you can’t start out Feral using your Resto set. You’ll still need to expand it because there are some different stats–Hit, for example–but at least the Int, SP, etc. will still do you good.) > [@Quasimodem](#): > > **Og!** You kids and your terminology! Resto/boomkin: A Druid that has Restoration (healing) as its primary talent spec, with Balance (ranged DPS) as its secondary spec. Balance druids have a talent that allows them to shapeshift into Moonkin form, which allows them to do more damage. This gives them the nickname “Boomkin.” > [@Quasimodem](#): > > So I guess even graveyards aren’t safe anymore, huh? Usually they’re safe, but sometimes they’ll have a mob parked on 'em. No fun. ☹ Side note: I’ve seen you refer to having Wolkie “mana up” a couple of times–Wolkie doesn’t actually have any mana. Mana is the blue bar that casters and Hunters have. Warriors use Rage instead (and we start with an empty bar). > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Yay! Just call me **Master Angler of Stranglethorn**! Woohoo! Well done, sir. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4500 "2009-08-31T17:45:17Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Draenei are supposed to be Indian? Really? I never got that at all. I mean, yeah, the males got the “Tunak Tunak Tun” dance, but so what? Their accent doesn’t sound the least bit like something you’d get from a native speaker of Hindi or Urdu or anything else you might find in India–always sounded like some mangled combination of Greek and Russian to me. I’ve been led to understand that the Tunak Tunak Tun video is Turkish … I have recently discovered, however, that the guy is actually [singing in English](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fSpI4oZoDc) 😃 \*In your yard I am the Ferengi man, very odd and chunky! Sue the guard up the lake. There’s sawdust and pizza, Yoda.\* > [@](#): > > Woohoo! Well done, sir. Didn’t you also win the fishing contest recently? I couldn’t believe the way my heart was pounding when I was at 38 fish, no winner had been announced, and there was another school 20 yards away. Then I got that 40th fish, hit my hearthstone, and then my heart was pounding even harder as I ran out of the inn and saw that there was nobody else anywhere near the turn-in guy. And no mammoth parked on top of him 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=224) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=226)