# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 233
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4641 "2009-09-03T18:01:28Z")
> [@InvisibleWombat](#): > > Why wouldn’t I? > > No, seriously. Why would you assume there was any kind of a problem playing on a Mac? Can you get multiple button mouse on a mac? I play wow with a 5 button mouse. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4642 "2009-09-03T18:06:03Z")
Yes you can. And anyway, most of the time I play WoW with a 2-button-and-wheel mouse. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4643 "2009-09-03T18:08:13Z")
> [@Raza](#): > > You’re quite a hike for me, and I’m in Atlanta. Maybe one weekend when the Mrs. is in a road-trip mood we can come your way. I’ve never (knowingly) met a fellow doper. That would be nice, **Raza** , and me and “the little woman” ( **DUCKS & RUNS, BIG TIME** ):eek::eek::eek: would be pleased to treat y’all to lunch or dinner. If I can just _see_ someone play and strategize _once_, I’m confident I can “get it” and retain it. I **know** I could.🙂 Thanks Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4644 "2009-09-03T18:18:10Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > While you’ll always have some people arguing for using the keyboard to move and the mouse to click abilities, the general concensus is that it’s much faster to use the mouse to move while you use the keyboard to trigger most of your abilities (at least the ones that make up your basis “rotation,” as well as anything you’d need to mash in a hurry). I think it depends on your role. Everyone eventually ends up using the mouse to turn and the keyboard to actually move. Everyone has half their keyboard hotkeyed but I use “clique” and “grid” for almost all my healing spells. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4645 "2009-09-03T18:25:07Z")
> [@martu](#): > > I’m on a roll, Monday my lock dinged 50 and last night my pally hit 57 and is about 70% on his way to 58. After a Sunday night travelling half way across the world (should it be that much work to get a key for Scholomance??) I could be in Outland for the first time next week what do you guys suggest, go there immediately at 58 (which as I understand it is the earliest you can go there) or wait a level or two? I would go immediately. The gear gap between vanilla WOW and BC starting zone quest rewards is immense. A lot of the quests are very doable at lower levels especially with a pet class and the XP is significantly improved as well. I would suggest the same thing for Northrend. If you aren’t having fun in BC then go back to Azeroth and level to 60ish and come back. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4646 "2009-09-03T18:39:30Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Anybody else have this trouble? No, never, not without some kind of error message and even then it’s usually range related on a moving target (cats are famous for not being in range even if we have our head stuck up the enemy’s butt). ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4647 "2009-09-03T18:43:35Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > (cats are famous for not being in range even **if we have our head stuck up the enemy’s butt** ). Which, if you’ve ever owned a cat, is a nicely ironic reversal of the real-world standard… ---
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4648 "2009-09-03T18:48:21Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > “Mixed Emotions” about that, **SFG**. > > On the one hand, for someone like me, who had to struggle and needed a LOT of help to get to 30, lowering it to 20 all of a sudden kinda pisses me off. (Or as “pissed off” as a guy like me _can_ be, keeping in mind that I never would have _reached_ 30 if it hadn’t been for _you_ kids! :rolleyes:)) > > But then I can’t “mecker” too much, can I, because it allowed me to speed and armor **Silka** up some 😉 much earlier than normal. > > Aww, hell. Just transport my sorry ass to Azeroth! 😉 > > Tanks > > Q Just be glad you did not have to wait to hit 40 for your first mount 60 for a epic and 70 to fly. Now people can fly at 60 and get epic ground at 40. And may I add most of the riding skills are a **lot** cheaper than they once were too. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4649 "2009-09-03T18:50:41Z")
> [@shinto46](#): > > Just be glad you did not have to wait to hit 40 for your first mount 60 for a epic and 70 to fly. Now people can fly at 60 and get epic ground at 40. And may I add most of the riding skills are a **lot** cheaper than they once were too. I know, right? I can’t wait for 60. Flying around Outland from the start is going to be very nice. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4650 "2009-09-03T18:57:03Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Which, if you’ve ever owned a cat, is a nicely ironic reversal of the real-world standard… Haha, it’s been a long time since I had a cat, I had forgotten about that, thanks for reminding me 🙂 **Mister Rik** , after doing some more thinking it occurs to me that what happens in your case might be that the ability does go off, but you get a dodge or miss in which case most of the energy/rage will be refunded, pay attention to the combat log the next time it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4651 "2009-09-03T19:05:39Z")
Oh, and everybody knows that faction transfers are live now, right? I’m moving the DK I mention below to the Horde side, since that’s where my friends and I now have the most active alts on that server. Anybody else thinking about swapping a char around? > [@Bosstone](#): > > I know, right? I can’t wait for 60. Flying around Outland from the start is going to be very nice. I’d picked up the new mounts for all of my other alts, but my low-60s DK didn’t have the cash handy, so I had to wait until I had the time to rustle it up. I finally got around to transferring some cash from Horde-side, where I have more active alts (by sending Horde pets, which I then sold on the AH for a tidy profit), and picked up her flight skill plus an Ebon Gryphon. Wow–talk about a rush! I’d forgotten how awesome it felt the first time I flew on my main, and this brought it all back again. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4652 "2009-09-03T19:12:34Z")
Short on money and options, sadly. I’ve got over 2000 gold and a level 76 Hunter stashed away on Cenarius that I could really use on Cairne, but that’s a straight $55 to change servers and factions, and I’m not nearly that flush with cash. ---
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4653 "2009-09-03T19:15:46Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Oh, and everybody knows that faction transfers are live now, right? I’m moving the DK I mention below to the Horde side, since that’s where my friends and I now have the most active alts on that server. Anybody else thinking about swapping a char around? Not for what they are charging to do it. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4654 "2009-09-03T19:21:26Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Which, if you’ve ever owned a cat, is a nicely ironic reversal of the real-world standard… “a nicely ironic reversal” Oh-Oh, **jayjay**!:eek:🙂 I _understand_ “irony”, and I _understand_ “reversal”, but I can’t deal with those two words in the same _sentence_! _I cannot make them make **SENSE** _! Cat chasing its own tail? I don’t know. This took me 23 minutes to write, because I kept trying to “break down” what you wrote, and can’t come up with a “solution”! Sucks to be me, don 't it - especially since I majored In English Literature in college? Crap. Back to Azeroth, ah reckon! 🙂 Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4655 "2009-09-03T19:26:57Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I _understand_ “irony”, and I _understand_ “reversal”, but I can’t deal with those two words in the same _sentence_! An \*\*ironic reversal \*\*would be a situation that has been reversed (instead of the cat’s butt in its owner’s face, the player-in-Druid-cat-form’s face is in the enemy’s butt), and this reversed situation is considered ironic (because it defies the expectation of cat-butt-in-face, not cat-face-in-butt). Did that help? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4656 "2009-09-03T19:28:26Z")
**SFG** , your multi-quote obsession is getting you in trouble. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4657 "2009-09-03T19:32:32Z")
Yeah, it did, thanks, **SFG**. It just takes me a few minutes to “picture” it. Sorry. Q ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4658 "2009-09-03T19:37:33Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Yeah, it did, thanks, **SFG**. > > It just takes me a few minutes to “picture” it. > > Sorry. > > Q Heh. It’s okay, **Quasi**! Sometimes even I don’t know what I’m talking about… ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4659 "2009-09-03T19:41:24Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > **SFG** , your multi-quote obsession is getting you in trouble. 😉 :smack: Whoops, sorry! ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4660 "2009-09-03T19:45:32Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > I usually wait until I am 60 to do outlands, makes it a lot more solo survivable. I took my priest there at about halfway through level 57. He got to 58 fast just by grinding boars & buzzards, and then picked up quests at 58. He did die a few times when he pulled multiple mobs, but overall it wasn’t bad at all. He did 57-60 _way_ faster than my mage did it in the old world. I took my death knight to Outlands at 58, and he had no difficulty at all soloing any of the quests. > [@aruvqan](#): > > …and I am not certain offhand what your enchanting has to be to DE the green and unusable BOP drops you end up with up there, Not that high. I can’t remember the exact number, but I know my enchanter was DE’ing Outlands stuff for my main when he was level 55. > [@col\_10022](#): > > Can you get multiple button mouse on a mac? I play wow with a 5 button mouse. Yes, for at _least_ ten years now. I use a five-button myself, but every mouse I’ve found is too small for my hands, and I’ve disabled the buttons on the side because I hit them by accident too often. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=232) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=234)