# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 243
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4841 "2009-09-10T02:23:06Z")
**WHERE** are the mailboxes in Cairne??? Someone’s sent me some mail in The Valley Of Trials, and **Quasi’s** running around like a chicken with its head cut off tryin’ to find a way to open it! :D:D:D Thanks Q:) ---
**Author:** ![Goblinboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3be4f8/32.png) [@Goblinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Goblinboy)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4842 "2009-09-10T02:33:16Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **WHERE** are the mailboxes in Cairne??? > > Someone’s sent me some mail in The Valley Of Trials, and **Quasi’s** running around like a chicken with its head cut off tryin’ to find a way to open it! :D:D:D > > Thanks > > Q:) Closest one is in Razor Hill, I believe, in front of the inn. I think they’ve added some extra mailboxes in Ogrimmar since release, but none of them are in the beginner’s area. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4843 "2009-09-10T03:10:32Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Frost is the spec for keeping mobs at a distance by slowing/rooting them. Fire is the spec for keeping mobs at a distance by burning them down before they can hit you more than once or twice. I know you’re looking for a different experience from your Frost Mage, but you might want to look into a different rotation, getting more +SP gear, etc. On the gear front, Svelexi is only level 26, so her gear options are fairly limited. I’ve loaded her up with as much +INT and +SPI as I can find; her pants (and her bracers, I think) are “of Fiery Wrath”, and I’ve had my shaman, who is an alchemist, send her Fire Power elixirs as fast as she can make them (I’m glad I’m finally discovering what all those Firefin Snappers and Oily Blackmouths are for). Speaking of that, I’m starting to have fun with the interaction of all my toons and their professions. All of my characters fish so now, whichever toon I’m playing, if I see a Firefin Snapper or Oily Blackmouth school I fish as much as I can out of it and then mail the fish to my alchemist. Then she turns them into various potions and elixirs for the rest of my lower-level toons. Since my main is a tailor she’s made Netherweave Bags for every other character in my vanity guild (it’s nice having a full complement of 16-slot bags before level 10). My rogue is an Engineer and makes ammo to send to my hunter, and I recently mentioned my Blacksmith DK making a Golden Rod for my now-Enchanter main. I’m planning on eventually having my priest and mage take up Inscription and Jewelcrafting. It’s all starting to come together! > [@](#): > > Woohoo, grats! I bet you never want to look at another starting zone quest or stack of Runecloth again. 😃 Actually, the cloth turnins were easy. My bank alt has purchased all seven bag slots for her bank, with a Netherweave Bag in each, courtesy of my tailor main. And those bags are crammed full of everything from Linen Cloth to Runecloth. Basically, once any of my toons no longer has need of a particular kind of cloth (mainly when they move up to a new type of bandage), they just mail all the lower-level cloth to my bank alt, and she keeps up the stockpile. All the runecloth came from my lvl 80 main making a few trips through Scholomance and Stratholme. So I just have my bank alt mail whatever kind and quantity of cloth a particular toon needs. > [@Bosstone](#): > > [Boom](http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070214). Just out of curiosity, how did you search for that? I see the date was more than two years ago, and all I could remember were the premise and a rough idea of the dialogue. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > **Schweeeeet** , **a**! And we will, of course, gladly pay you back (“Next Tuesday for some coinage today!”;)) Have you been hanging around Topper McNabb again? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4844 "2009-09-10T04:39:38Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Just out of curiosity, how did you search for that? I see the date was more than two years ago, and all I could remember were the premise and a rough idea of the dialogue. In the archive search box, I just typed in “leather”. That was the only strip to come up. I got lucky on it, I might have tried crafting or something if it didn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4845 "2009-09-10T06:09:49Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > I’m revered with Valiance Expedition already, so when I finally get all my money together, I’m going to drop by Valiance Keep to train. I should be exalted by that point, the way I’m going. I’m looking to see if I can get a free fast flyer somehow, though. It would save me a little cash, at any rate. > > I finally won at jousting this weekend. Now I have to do it some more…sigh. > > ETA: well, the only free fast flyers I see are ones I am definitely not going to be able to get. Oh, well. There is a bronze dragon that drops in heroic mode Culling of Stratholme if you can beat the timer. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4846 "2009-09-10T06:11:19Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > BTW, for you experienced tanks out there–is there an addon that will easily tell you who in the party has aggro on something in a big AoE pull? I’ve got XPerl, but I’m usually so busy looking at other areas of my screen that I don’t tend to look there to see if anybody’s name has lit up red. I’d rather have something that displays it in the middle of the screen. I’m futzing around with Grid, but so far I haven’t gotten it to do what I want it to do (which is show each person’s name and light them up red when they have threat, so I can click them and use my taunt macro). Any ideas? Thanks in advance! You can do this with Grid. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4847 "2009-09-10T06:16:10Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Herbalism will also lead to a tiny orgasm of glee the first time you step into Freya’s room in Ulduar, when you realize that it’s full of Northrend herbs… **including Frost Lotus nodes**. Many of the mobs are also herb-skinnable, even if they mostly drop trash. Yeah the herbalists love Freya’s conservatory but you basically see it once a week. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4848 "2009-09-10T06:18:12Z")
> [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](#): > > Except raw ore prospects into gems, which makes it desirable for many jewelcrafters; titanium ore can give epic gems, while saronite ore can give blue quality. It may not be as profitable as herbs, but if you really want to make money, skip crafting, take herbalism and mining, and sell the raw materials. Notice the absence of skinning on your list. With that said. Alchemy is usually considered the most profitable profession followed by fishing (these days Jewelcrafting is pretty profitable but that will pass with time). ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4849 "2009-09-10T08:43:10Z")
I visited Outland for the first time last night. Very impressed indeed though the loot\quest reward upgrades seem like cheating a bit because the mobs seem easier to kill than the higher level mobs we were previously killing in Eastern Plaguelands. On my question from yesterday regarding add-ons for a protection pally, I recommend Power Auras. I installed this recently as I have rolled an undead priest and this add-on was recommended in a blog and I have found it is so configurable you can use it for any class, Sagan now has visual clues when Holy Shield isn’t up in combat and Judgements are off cooldown. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4850 "2009-09-10T08:54:51Z")
I use grid and clique in all my toons. For the healers, it’s much more compact than healbot (specially in raids); for others, it gives me a tool to see how are we doing and to use one or two key skills in anybody rapidly (I can MD on anybody as needed, for example, no need to set focus or whatever). The other day someone introduced me to GridStatusMissingBuffs - now when my priest (or another priest in the group) has forgotten Inner Fire, I can see it on grid; it’s easier to notice a green frame around my white square than to notice a missing buff icon. I’ve set it up to show me who my warrior has Vigilance on, whether a DK has Frost up, Inner Fire, Focus Magic… I just love it! ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4851 "2009-09-10T09:25:19Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **WHERE** are the mailboxes in Cairne??? > > Someone’s sent me some mail in The Valley Of Trials, and **Quasi’s** running around like a chicken with its head cut off tryin’ to find a way to open it! :D:D:D > > Thanks > > Q:) Just popped in, and found you got the mail =) Now we need to level you up and get you geared. When you get to about 8 or 9 I can run you through the first instance in ogrimmar =) I think that is when you can get the quests. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4852 "2009-09-10T09:34:51Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > On the gear front, Svelexi is only level 26, so her gear options are fairly limited. I’ve loaded her up with as much +INT and +SPI as I can find; her pants (and her bracers, I think) are “of Fiery Wrath”, and I’ve had my shaman, who is an alchemist, send her Fire Power elixirs as fast as she can make them (I’m glad I’m finally discovering what all those Firefin Snappers and Oily Blackmouths are for). These [cloth items](http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.1&filter=minrl=1;maxrl=26;cr=123:86;crs=1:11;crv=0:0) and this [cloak](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45626) are all made with tailoring, while some patterns are drops, most of them are taught but the trainer or bought from vendors so you should know them on your paladin. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4853 "2009-09-10T10:46:15Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I use grid and clique in all my toons. For the healers, it’s much more compact than healbot (specially in raids); for others, it gives me a tool to see how are we doing and to use one or two key skills in anybody rapidly (I can MD on anybody as needed, for example, no need to set focus or whatever). > > The other day someone introduced me to GridStatusMissingBuffs - now when my priest (or another priest in the group) has forgotten Inner Fire, I can see it on grid; it’s easier to notice a green frame around my white square than to notice a missing buff icon. I’ve set it up to show me who my warrior has Vigilance on, whether a DK has Frost up, Inner Fire, Focus Magic… I just love it! I’ll give that a go too - I am an add-on addict at the moment I think, I keep downloading things to try as my new laptop will be able to run a lot more add-ons than I currently have enabled. I have got over my QuestHelper is cheating hang up too so that will be installed to help get my baby priest up to end game ASAP. On add-ons how do I make sure I do not lose any of my Gatherer data when I install a new version after a patch? I currently install add-ons manually as I have read bad things regarding add-on maintenance tools like the Curse client. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4854 "2009-09-10T10:49:44Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Just popped in, and found you got the mail =) > > Now we need to level you up and get you geared. When you get to about 8 or 9 I can run you through the first instance in ogrimmar =) I think that is when you can get the quests. You can get into Ragefire Chasm at level 8 but some of the quests require level 9 so it is worth waiting until then. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4855 "2009-09-10T11:58:19Z")
> [@martu](#): > > You can get into Ragefire Chasm at level 8 but some of the quests require level 9 so it is worth waiting until then. I thought you couldn’t get Hidden Enemies (which kicks off the rest of the Org quests for RFC) until lvl 10. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4856 "2009-09-10T12:08:16Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I thought you couldn’t get Hidden Enemies (which kicks off the rest of the Org quests for RFC) until lvl 10. Thottbot says level 9 for [Hidden Enemies](http://thottbot.com/q5728) though I have never picked it up this early myself. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4857 "2009-09-10T12:37:52Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Thottbot says level 9 for [Hidden Enemies](http://thottbot.com/q5728) though I have never picked it up this early myself. It’s possible…usually I end up in Org first when I’m taking Admiral Proudmoore’s orders to Vol’jin, and that’s usually when I’m lvl 7. I don’t usually end up there again until I’m at 10, so I may be remembering Thrall’s quest marker greyed out at 7 and thinking it was at 9. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4858 "2009-09-10T14:15:30Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I thought you couldn’t get Hidden Enemies (which kicks off the rest of the Org quests for RFC) until lvl 10. You don’t actually need Hidden Enemies to get the kill-Targaman-the-Hungerer quest from Neeru Fireblade. (I had my DK run RFC repeatedly for greens & linen to jumpstart his enchanting, and picked up that quest on my way in without bothering with the Thrall quest). ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4859 "2009-09-10T14:21:10Z")
> [@martu](#): > > On add-ons how do I make sure I do not lose any of my Gatherer data when I install a new version after a patch? I currently install add-ons manually as I have read bad things regarding add-on maintenance tools like the Curse client. Gatherer now has a database with the data from wowhead, you can get it from the gatherer webpage; it’s not complete, of course. But as always, if they change data format you’ll lose your data; normally, you won’t (the data is not stored with the addons folder). ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4860 "2009-09-10T14:35:32Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **Wolkie’s** 47 and closing in on 48! Awesome–getting so close to 50! I just love those 10-level milestones, don’t you? Speaking of which, you’re almost 10 levels from 58, when you can go through the Dark Portal to Outland! Assuming you have the Burning Crusade expansion, of course. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Someone’s sent me some mail in The Valley Of Trials, and **Quasi’s** running around like a chicken with its head cut off tryin’ to find a way to open it! No regular starting areas\* have mailboxes, for any race. The first mailbox is always outside the first inn, outside the segregated super-newbie area. For Orcs and Trolls, as mentioned, that’s Razor Hill in the middle of Durotar. For Humans, as you may remember from Wolkie, that’s Goldshire in Elwynn Forest. \*The Death Knight starting area has a mailbox not at an inn, but in front of a house out in the Scarlet Crusade area just outside the Scourge-controlled area that’s your base. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Speaking of that, I’m starting to have fun with the interaction of all my toons and their professions. This is one thing I’ve missed a lot since I moved my main to another server. It used to be that I had max-level Alch/Herb and various other stages of Mining, Skinning, Tailoring, Leatherworking, Jewelcrafting, and Inscription all on the Alliance side of the same server. Insanely useful for people who love making alts. Now those toons are somewhat scattered, by server and by faction. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Yeah the herbalists love Freya’s conservatory but you basically see it once a week. IIRC, the herbs actually respawn when the trash does. So, if you clear as you go, wipe on Freya, and come back another night, you can harvest again. 😃 > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Alchemy is usually considered the most profitable profession Out of the production professions, maybe. I guess I could see that, since people buy Frost Resist armor once, but they need flasks forever. IMO, you’d probably still be better off just harvesting and selling herbs, especially the lower-level ones. > [@martu](#): > > On add-ons how do I make sure I do not lose any of my Gatherer data when I install a new version after a patch? Addon data is stored separately from the addons themselves (in a separate directory). When installing new versions, you should never lose cached data, unless the addon itself has been updated in such a way to not be backwards-compatible with its old data files. (Personally, I do all of mine manually, too–it really doesn’t take that long, even when I have to update every single one of my… er… probably dozens of addons.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=242) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=244)