# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 244
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4861 "2009-09-10T14:42:56Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > (Personally, I do all of mine manually, too–it really doesn’t take that long, even when I have to update every single one of my… er… probably dozens of addons.) I always manually update my addons. I once downloaded the (IIRC) Curse update manager on my husband’s advice, and was pleased to see that it had found an update for an old, out-of-date (but still functioning) addon called Tattle. This addon would squawk about who broke sheep, that kind of thing. Then I double-checked their website and saw that this Tattle wasn’t the same thing at all! I think I got Tattle off another site, probably WoWInterface, and this manager was trying to wipe out my addon with something entirely different. Edit: I just keep a text file on my desktop with an alphabetized list of my addons, the last date updated for each, and if it’s not on Curse, what site I should go to for downloading. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4862 "2009-09-10T14:55:55Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Another Wednesday, another Burning Dog Legion instance run. Tonight we head back to Blackrock Depths. If you want to join us, let me (Rillian) know when I come online tonight, around 8:30. I hope there are enough slots for everyone, but don’t be late in case we fill up. So Rillian discovered JUST HOW FUN those dwarf patrols right behind that locked gate in BRD can be (I’m pretty sure that’s my #2 all-time wipe point, after the dragon at the end of the Nexus), but we did a nice little tour of the dungeons, killed ourselves a lotta dwarfs, and then stopped when I pooped out after we killed Lord Incendius. There were a few near-wipes when our healer went down and I had to switch out of shadow form and try to keep the tank alive, but not a bad run. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4863 "2009-09-10T15:03:55Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > There were a few near-wipes when our healer went down and I had to switch out of shadow form and try to keep the tank alive, but not a bad run. I would like to take this opportunity to pause and applaud Tom and every other person who plays a hybrid character well enough to be able to switch roles when called for in order to save the group from a wipe. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4864 "2009-09-10T15:06:12Z")
I went to Stratholme last night for quests, runecloth, and general mayhem. I was intrigued by the locked postboxes and happy when I got the keys for them. I llaughed out loud, however, when I unlocked a postbox and was attacked by three undead postmen yelling at me for tampering with the mail. My friend has Jewelcrafting on his main and finally got at least one epic gem cut for the cardinal ruby. I just learned how to transmute those, so I transmute them, he cuts them, and we split the profits. They sell really fast so there’s always a nice chunk of change waiting in the mail. I also do pretty well out of my other five gem transmutes so I do those and sell the uncut gems. I have two meta gem transmutes that have no cooldown so I make a bunch of those at times and sell them. I’m inching ever closer to having enough money for epic flying. Look what I got yesterday–[Tabard of the Explorer.](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43348) People keep saying it’s ugly, but I like it. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4865 "2009-09-10T15:08:04Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > You can do this with Grid. No doubt I can, but I guess I’m an idiot because I can’t figure out _how_ to do it. (Half the time my Grid boxes don’t even show up on my screen, which is another issue). My main and primary focus is a mage, and he never needed to use Grid, so this is new to me. It seems kind of obvious when I look at the options what I should do (IIRC there’s an option to show Aggro for a unit), but for some reason it doesn’t seem to work. What I’d like it to do is: 1. Show the unit’s name (or at least part of it) in the little square 2. Light up the square with some obvious color (like red) when that unit has aggro. I’d be eternally grateful if a Grid expert could explain to me what I’m doing wrong, because clicking the ‘show unit name’ and ‘aggro’ check boxes don’t seem to do the trick. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4866 "2009-09-10T15:33:05Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Someone’s sent me some mail in The Valley Of Trials, and **Quasi’s** running around like a chicken with its head cut off tryin’ to find a way to open it! :D:D:D Just so you know, **Quasi** , there’s a little “tracking” icon on your minimap. If you click on it, you can select what shows up as little gold dots on the minimap. If you have herbalism or mining, that’s typically what you’ll have checked. One of the choices is “mailboxes.” When you need a mailbox, just head for a town and set your minimap to track mailboxes. It’s fun to say mailbox. Mailbox, mailbox, mailbox. Sounds dirty or something. Mailbox. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4867 "2009-09-10T15:41:16Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > I use grid and clique in all my toons. For the healers, it’s much more compact than healbot (specially in raids); for others, it gives me a tool to see how are we doing and to use one or two key skills in anybody rapidly (I can MD on anybody as needed, for example, no need to set focus or whatever). > > The other day someone introduced me to GridStatusMissingBuffs - now when my priest (or another priest in the group) has forgotten Inner Fire, I can see it on grid; it’s easier to notice a green frame around my white square than to notice a missing buff icon. I’ve set it up to show me who my warrior has Vigilance on, whether a DK has Frost up, Inner Fire, Focus Magic… I just love it! You can’t really heal on a raid without grid. There is one healer in my guild that doesn’t use it and while she heals single targets just fine, she doesn’t carry nearly the healing load of other healers in her class because she can can only really focus on one healing target at a time. My biggest problem with Grid is that you get so focused on healing that you sometimes don’t notice when you are standing in fire. Having a grid expert in the guild to help you set it up is invaluable. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4868 "2009-09-10T15:47:30Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > IIRC, the herbs actually respawn when the trash does. So, if you clear as you go, wipe on Freya, and come back another night, you can harvest again. 😃 Oh I did not know that (I am not an herbalist) but thinking back I think you are correct. We used to wipe on Freya a LOT (then we wiped on Mimiron a LOT and now we wipe on Yogg a LOT, I am hoping to wipe on Algalon a LOT pretty soon). ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4869 "2009-09-10T15:47:59Z")
I’m looking at Grid+Clique and looking at Healbot and struggling to see the difference between them. Is there any substantial difference beyond personal preference? ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4870 "2009-09-10T15:49:09Z")
> [@InvisibleWombat](#): > > Just so you know, **Quasi** , there’s a little “tracking” icon on your minimap. If you click on it, you can select what shows up as little gold dots on the minimap. If you have herbalism or mining, that’s typically what you’ll have checked. One of the choices is “mailboxes.” When you need a mailbox, just head for a town and set your minimap to track mailboxes. > > It’s fun to say mailbox. Mailbox, mailbox, mailbox. Sounds dirty or something. Mailbox. Thanks! It was my “In-Game Guru” **aruvqan** (thanks for the g., kiddo!:)) And oh, **IW** , were you _possibly_ thinking: _“Male-Bollocks”_?😃 Thanks, and I love you kids!🙂 Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4871 "2009-09-10T15:52:47Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > And oh, **IW** , were you _possibly_ thinking: _“Male-Bollocks”_?😃 What other kind of bollocks are there? ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4872 "2009-09-10T15:56:39Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > So Rillian discovered JUST HOW FUN those dwarf patrols right behind that locked gate in BRD can be (I’m pretty sure that’s my #2 all-time wipe point, after the dragon at the end of the Nexus), but we did a nice little tour of the dungeons, killed ourselves a lotta dwarfs, and then stopped when I pooped out after we killed Lord Incendius. There were a few near-wipes when our healer went down and I had to switch out of shadow form and try to keep the tank alive, but not a bad run. I think we did great, considering that most of us had never done BRD before. If I had noticed all the pats in that hallway before running in we could have avoided the wipe. Thanks to you for a couple of well-timed emergency heals and shields. I almost got a full level of XP, so I think several of us leveled. I almost hate not to finish BRD next week, but Mordrin and I have to wrap up our class quests in Sunken Temple first (he just dinged 50). ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4873 "2009-09-10T15:56:54Z")
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D You take the cake, **IW**! You _really_ do! Thanks Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4874 "2009-09-10T16:07:48Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > I llaughed out loud, however, when I unlocked a postbox and was attacked by three undead postmen yelling at me for tampering with the mail. Did you try opening more than one? On the third mailbox, you actually get the postmaster himself! 😃 > [@](#): > > Look what I got yesterday–[Tabard of the Explorer.](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43348) People keep saying it’s ugly, but I like it. Grats! I actually kind of liked the Explorer tabard–it goes especially well with leather. The Loremaster tabard is the one that’s really inexcusably hideous. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4875 "2009-09-10T16:18:59Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Did you try opening more than one? On the third mailbox, you actually get the postmaster himself! 😃 > > Grats! I actually kind of liked the Explorer tabard–it goes especially well with leather. The Loremaster tabard is the one that’s really inexcusably hideous. The postmaster is named [Postmaster Malown](http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=11143), which judging by his commentary, is a pun on the basketball player Karl Malone’s nickname “Mailman”. I love the Explorer tabard on my tauren druid. Especially since I’m trying to grind Wyrmrest rep on her for the bracers, and when you combine that eye-searing tabard with the large “landscape” a tauren body provides, and then take into account that she’s wearing the Polar Vest and Polar Boots (cause I don’t have better yet) which are obnoxiously bright blue and green striped… well, she looks like she got dressed in the dark. The Explorer tabard at least minimizes the eye-searing from the other pieces and doesn’t make it worse. (At least after today I can toss that yellow and red monstrosity of a tabard in the bank, because I should hit Exalted with 2 more dailies.) ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4876 "2009-09-10T16:19:06Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Did you try opening more than one? On the third mailbox, you actually get the postmaster himself! 😃 Y’all **are** shittin’ me right?🙂 Q ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4877 "2009-09-10T16:20:39Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Did you try opening more than one? On the third mailbox, you actually get the postmaster himself! 😃 > > Grats! I actually kind of liked the Explorer tabard–it goes especially well with leather. The Loremaster tabard is the one that’s really inexcusably hideous. I only opened two, since it was getting late and I couldn’t figure out where the third one was. Thanks! I now have six tabards. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4878 "2009-09-10T16:22:56Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Y’all **are** shittin’ me right?🙂 Nah, see the link above - I did this once on my level 80 warlock, got the Postmaster and a few postmen buddies of his when I opened the third mailbox. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4879 "2009-09-10T16:40:27Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Gatherer now has a database with the data from wowhead, you can get it from the gatherer webpage; it’s not complete, of course. But as always, if they change data format you’ll lose your data; normally, you won’t (the data is not stored with the addons folder). Thanks, where is the data stored? I am reinstalling on a new machine soon. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/4880 "2009-09-10T16:42:35Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Thanks, where is the data stored? I am reinstalling on a new machine soon. The WTF folder in the World of Warcraft root directory is where all the config information is kept; display settings, keybinding, macros, add-on settings, etc. That’s the most crucial folder to back up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=243) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=245)