# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 255
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5081 "2009-09-16T15:36:20Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Ok, confirmed: We’ll have a BDL run of Sunken Temple on Saturday night, 8:00 server time. Next Wednesday we’ll go back to our normal schedule, and back to BRD. > > Tom: Sorry you can’t make it Saturday, but I’d be glad to help you with the questline another night (Blood of Morphaz? I thought you already did it?). My rogue or SPriest could even give you a runthrough. It’s not the priest questline, it’s the egg (of Hakkar??) one where you summon the elite in that one room on the ground floor. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5082 "2009-09-16T15:39:13Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I actually liked Silverpine a lot. And I hate, hate, \*\*hate \*\*Darkshore. You can’t deny the roaming face-eating Elites, though. Well, once you know where they are it’s pretty easy to avoid them. I think you only need to walk through their zone to get to the spiders for that one apothecary quest. And the only other non-Barrens levelling zone also has face-eating elites, so there’s pretty much no way around it. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5083 "2009-09-16T15:40:00Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Any reason you didn’t keep the trees in melee range too (so the didn’t get the mark or targeted by a crash)? If we didn’t keep at least four people out of melee range, Vez would start targeting his ranged abilities on melee, which would be Very Bad. There was also something the trees could do with HOTs that involved the puddles left after a Shadow Crash that made them good choices to stay ranged. (I’m guessing stack the HOTs up at low cost, then get out of the AOE so the healing bumps back up to normal levels.) We did miss exactly one interrupt (on the very first flame thingy), but fortunately we have awesome healers. That one was actually my bad, 'cause I started in Battle instead of Zerker, and I apparently didn’t mash my interrupt macro enough for it to switch my stances \*\*and \*\*Pummel (possibly I was just short on Rage, especially after a stance change, because it was only a couple seconds into the fight). After that, I just said “fuck it” and stayed in Zerker. Surprisingly (to me, anyway), I still managed to pull about 2,300 DPS, even in the wrong stance for my spec. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5084 "2009-09-16T15:45:27Z")
> [@Shot From Guns](#): > > There was also something the trees could do with HOTs that involved the puddles left after a Shadow Crash that made them good choices to stay ranged. (I’m guessing stack the HOTs up at low cost, then get out of the AOE so the healing bumps back up to normal levels.) Probably [Lifebloom](http://www.wowwiki.com/Lifebloom), I’m guessing. Stack the spell quickly in the puddle, get out, and let it bloom for a decent burst of healing. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5085 "2009-09-16T15:45:36Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > If you need more people, I’ll try to be 50 by Saturday so I can join in. That would be great! You can join us even if you’re not 50 yet, but you have to be 50 to get the class quest from your trainer (at least I know for roques, pallies and priests). > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I actually liked Silverpine a lot. And I hate, hate, \*\*hate \*\*Darkshore. You can’t deny the roaming face-eating Elites, though. I really like Silverpine - leveled there with my very first toon (Undead priest). In fact, now that I’ve gone Ghostlands a couple of times, I might go back to the Undead areas for my next alt. ---
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5086 "2009-09-16T15:52:34Z")
Congrads on the kill SFG! Since you have so many of them can I steal one of your healers? I need a new pocket healer questing buddy now that I have been flying solo for a few weeks. 😛 Quasi hang in there. You’ll be back in Azaroth before you know it! ---
**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5087 "2009-09-16T15:54:53Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > I really like Silverpine - leveled there with my very first toon (Undead priest). In fact, now that I’ve gone Ghostlands a couple of times, I might go back to the Undead areas for my next alt. I also enjoyed the zone with my warlock. Interested in seeing how it changes with the next xpansion. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5088 "2009-09-16T15:58:02Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Hah. Wait till you get to the Battle of Hillsbrad quest line. I think it’s the only place in the game, aside from the Death Knight intro quests, when you engage in wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians. Innocent?! They attacked me first! Hmpf… ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5089 "2009-09-16T15:59:30Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Innocent?! They attacked me first! Hmpf… Exactly! If they were really innocent they’d be yellow names, not red! I love RPG morality. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5090 "2009-09-16T16:13:10Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > That would be great! You can join us even if you’re not 50 yet, but you have to be 50 to get the class quest from your trainer (at least I know for roques, pallies and priests). There’s also definitely one for warriors. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5091 "2009-09-16T16:15:49Z")
> [@shinto46](#): > > Since you have so many of them can I steal one of your healers? We actually don’t have that many. Of our three best healers, one is currently out dealing with a medical issue, and another is about to stop playing because his class load is heavier than he anticipated. The remaining top healer is my pocket healer, and he’s mine, and you can’t have him, dammit. Out of the next tier, one is never online recently because his business is working on a huge deal that’s probably going to make him insanely rich, and another is a nice guy who’s pretty clueless about figuring stuff out on his own, to the extent that if you don’t hold his hand through everything, he’s probably going to die, and maybe take you with him. Then we have the new drama queen, who doesn’t like doing “hard” bosses and whines and pouts when people won’t help her lazy ass to do things she wants to do. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5092 "2009-09-16T16:20:40Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > And the only other non-Barrens levelling zone also has face-eating elites, so there’s pretty much no way around it. Ghostlands? The only wandering elites are Knucklerot and Lazran(?), and both of those are rather conspicuous, unlike the Sons of Arugal, which mostly look like every other non-Whitescalp worgen in Silverpine unless you’re really close up (at which point you’re a grease spot on the undergrowth if you’re at-level). ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5093 "2009-09-16T16:20:59Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > There’s also definitely one for warriors. Seems to be one for each class. The Druid quest has a significant upgrade for me, so I’ll definitely aim for that. In other news, I finally found [some](http://www.wow.com/2008/01/22/raid-rx-unkicking-butt-a-grid-story/) [decent](http://www.resto4life.com/2008/06/25/grid-thinking-within-the-boxes/) [resources](http://treebarkjacket.blogspot.com/2009/01/how-to-grid-hot-tracking.html) on how to work with Grid, so I may dump Healbot and try Grid+Clique on for size to see how that works for me. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5094 "2009-09-16T16:22:56Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Ghostlands? The only wandering elites are Knucklerot and Lazran(?), and both of those are rather conspicuous, unlike the Sons of Arugal, which mostly look like every other non-Whitescalp worgen in Silverpine unless you’re really close up (at which point you’re a grease spot on the undergrowth if you’re at-level). Yeah, but Knucks and Luzran (especially Knucks) also patrol all over the map, as opposed to the Sons, who are only in that one patch of forest. And the Sons can’t chain/grab you from a distance, not that they usually need to. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5095 "2009-09-16T16:23:22Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > If we didn’t keep at least four people out of melee range, Vez would start targeting his ranged abilities on melee, which would be Very Bad. There was also something the trees could do with HOTs that involved the puddles left after a Shadow Crash that made them good choices to stay ranged. (I’m guessing stack the HOTs up at low cost, then get out of the AOE so the healing bumps back up to normal levels.) Ah, that’s right - I forgot you had to have 4 people out of melee range (since we had 4 ranged DPS it didn’t have any effect on us). And yeah, I believe our tree mentioned that it made sense to stack some lifeblooms while you’re in the splash for “free” and then get the mana refund when it blooms (or something like that…). ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5096 "2009-09-16T16:32:27Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > And yeah, I believe our tree mentioned that it made sense to stack some lifeblooms while you’re in the splash for “free” and then get the mana refund when it blooms (or something like that…). Something like that. I’ve never needed to pay much attention to Resto Druid mechanics, since I’ve always raided with an extremely competent one. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5097 "2009-09-16T16:41:55Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Yeah, but Knucks and Luzran (especially Knucks) also patrol all over the map, as opposed to the Sons, who are only in that one patch of forest. > > And the Sons can’t chain/grab you from a distance, not that they usually need to. I don’t know. I’ve never had either one of the Gigabominations sneak up on me. They’re incredibly easy to avoid (as long as you’re not camping out in the very middle of the Dead Scar and watching yourself on the roads between the Scar and the villages in the western part of the zone, you’ll generally never get proximity aggro from them). I’ve had way too many incidents where I was killing Gluttons or Darksouls or bears or skitterlings, saw a relatively nondescript worgen some distance away, and suddenly had a lvl 24 elite in my face because my aggro radius was a mile and a half in diameter for them. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5098 "2009-09-16T16:44:20Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I’ve had way too many incidents where I was killing Gluttons or Darksouls or bears or skitterlings, saw a relatively nondescript worgen some distance away, and suddenly had a lvl 24 elite in my face because my aggro radius was a mile and a half in diameter for them. Yeah, but I bet he taught you to watch your ass, right? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5099 "2009-09-16T16:55:50Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I don’t know. I’ve never had either one of the Gigabominations sneak up on me. They’re incredibly easy to avoid (as long as you’re not camping out in the very middle of the Dead Scar and watching yourself on the roads between the Scar and the villages in the western part of the zone, you’ll generally never get proximity aggro from them). > > I’ve had way too many incidents where I was killing Gluttons or Darksouls or bears or skitterlings, saw a relatively nondescript worgen some distance away, and suddenly had a lvl 24 elite in my face because my aggro radius was a mile and a half in diameter for them. I suspect it’s just that by the time BC rolled out, you’d had enough object lessons in the value of avoiding obnoxious elites; I was still pretty new and managed to get killed several times by them. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5100 "2009-09-16T18:33:13Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Ghostlands? The only wandering elites are Knucklerot and Lazran(?), and both of those are rather conspicuous, unlike the Sons of Arugal, which mostly look like every other non-Whitescalp worgen in Silverpine unless you’re really close up (at which point you’re a grease spot on the undergrowth if you’re at-level). Oh, yes. While I was doing stuff for the Forsaken at the Sepulcher, I got pwned several times by the Sons. I haven’t gone back there in a while, with the result that I still have quests there that I am now overleveled for. Ah, well, at least maybe this time I can get away from the Sons, should I meet them, before they eat my face. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=254) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=256)