# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 265
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5281 "2009-09-22T03:40:04Z")
Huh. I have no idea what’s going on with the Thrown, then… Okay, you target a mob outside of melee range, right? Then you click the action bar button for the darts. And nothing happens? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5282 "2009-09-22T03:42:59Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Yes the darts are equipped and they are part of my action bar, but I **Wolkie** cannot seem to throw them. Did you ‘drag’ the darts from your character panel onto the action bar? You instead need to go to your “spellbook” and find the “Thrown” skill in the first “bookmark” of skills, possibly on the second page. Click and drag that to your action bar, and drop it where the dart icon is, to replace it. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5283 "2009-09-22T03:44:53Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Huh. I have no idea what’s going on with the Thrown, then… > > Okay, you target a mob outside of melee range, right? Then you click the action bar button for the darts. And nothing happens? None of my warriors use thrown weapons, but if it’s anything like “Shoot” then the relevant button will be located in the basic skill tab (i.e. the _first_ one, which is not Arms, Fury, or Protection), and will be called “Throw”. That’s the icon that needs to be dragged to the action bar, not the dart icon. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5284 "2009-09-22T03:50:02Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Did you ‘drag’ the darts from your character panel onto the action bar? You instead need to go to your “spellbook” and find the “Thrown” skill in the first “bookmark” of skills, possibly on the second page. Click and drag that to your action bar, and drop it where the dart icon is, to replace it. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > None of my warriors use thrown weapons, but if it’s anything like “Shoot” then the relevant button will be located in the basic skill tab (i.e. the _first_ one, which is not Arms, Fury, or Protection), and will be called “Throw”. That’s the icon that needs to be dragged to the action bar, not the dart icon. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5285 "2009-09-22T03:51:15Z")
Okay, I got all that, thanks, all. And BTW, I chose “devastate” as my talent point, that’s correct isn’t it? STILL think it’s a bit of an “anti-climax” when I level and have to start again, but maybe it’s just me? 😉 I just HAVE to share this with y’all: My left leg is still in a cast from where I broke my ankle, and my right foot is swollen so bad from sitting at the pooter so long, and my wife (my very TOLERANT wife) is telling me I need to stop playing for so long at a time, so when I go the doc on Wednesday, I hoprfully will get this “space boot” off and start riding my bicycle again. Thanks, and **jayjay?** IIRC, you’re not a warrior, so quit slapping yourself on the head, buddy! You and the other kids are a HUGE help to me! 🙂 Q Q ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5286 "2009-09-22T04:11:20Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > :smack: :smack: indeed. I seem to have completely misread what you typed. Sorry about that! :smack: again. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5287 "2009-09-22T04:12:18Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > None of my warriors use thrown weapons, but if it’s anything like “Shoot” then the relevant button will be located in the basic skill tab (i.e. the _first_ one, which is not Arms, Fury, or Protection), and will be called “Throw”. That’s the icon that needs to be dragged to the action bar, not the dart icon. Well, I DID that , **Rik** , and I now have TWO dart icons, neither of which work. Is it possible I need to TRAINED in thrown weapons? The guy across from the AH (Moo Goo Gai Pan?), doesn’t wanna talk to **Wolkie** either. Maybe it’s as **jayjay** says, and it’s a “battle skill”? Should I go into “Battle Stance” to throw them? I have both defense and battle stance right above my bottom action bar? Thanks Q ETA: **Stop** that, **jay!** 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5288 "2009-09-22T07:53:14Z")
For those who are too low-level to eat/drink all the brewfest food and drinks: Those achievements don’t need to be performed during brewfest. So unless you plan on twinking, you can just stash away the high level stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5289 "2009-09-22T08:27:19Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Well, I DID that , **Rik** , and I now have TWO dart icons, neither of which work. > > Is it possible I need to TRAINED in thrown weapons? If you can equip it, you have all the training you need to use it. The Throw ability under the General tab in your spellbook should work as long as you have a thrown weapon equipped. It should work in any stance. > [@](#): > > Maybe it’s as jayjay says, and it’s a “battle skill”? Should I go into “Battle Stance” to throw them? I have both defense and battle stance right above my bottom action bar? Um, no Berserker stance? ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5290 "2009-09-22T10:04:48Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > 1. I bought the glyph of Devastate in AH, but it’s not letting me load it in the glyph circle. Do I need to remove one of the other major glyphs and replace it with that one? It’s a level 50 requirement? > Thanks as always! > > Quasi Glyph of Devastate requires level 50 so Wolfie is Ok there however at level 50 you only have two major glyph slots available and I can see from the armory you already have both these glyph slots full so yes you’ll have to replace one of them if you want to use it. If you do replace one of your existing glyphs then you’ll lose the glyph you’re replacing forever so make sure you’re happy to do that. I am not a warrior but have read up a bit about this while investigating tanking for my pally and the recommended tank warrior glyphs are Blocking, Revenge and then one of Devastate or Heroic strike so replace Glyph of Sweeping Strikes. Warriors please correct me here if I’m wrong. Your last major glyph slot is available at level 80, for future reference you get the following at each level: Level 15: 1 Major, 1 Minor. Level 30: 2 Major, 1 Minor. Level 50: 2 Major, 2 Minor. Level 70: 2 Major, 3 Minor. Level 80: 3 Major, 3 Minor. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5291 "2009-09-22T10:06:26Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Well, I DID that , **Rik** , and I now have TWO dart icons, neither of which work. > > Is it possible I need to TRAINED in thrown weapons? > > The guy across from the AH (Moo Goo Gai Pan?), doesn’t wanna talk to **Wolkie** either. > > Maybe it’s as **jayjay** says, and it’s a “battle skill”? Should I go into “Battle Stance” to throw them? I have both defense and battle stance right above my bottom action bar? > > Thanks > > Q > > ETA: **Stop** that, **jay!** 🙂 **Quasi** if you’re still struggling with this post a screenshot which includes the UI so we can see your action bars. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5292 "2009-09-22T11:56:57Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > :smack: indeed. I seem to have completely misread what you typed. Sorry about that! > > :smack: again. Actually, no…I was headsmacking _myself_ because I completely forgot the difference between the actual darts and the “Thrown” ability, as far as dragging to the action bar goes. I haven’t had a toon that had to LEARN Thrown for a while…when I make a rogue, it’s already there! ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5293 "2009-09-22T13:24:31Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I managed, I think, three Brewfest quests (aside from the starting quest): Got me my pet Wolpertinger (a jackalope with wings ?), zapped pink elekks in TB, UC, and SM, and did the ram racing quest where I had to ride a loop while a goblin tossed beer barrels to me. Speaking of those rams (legally obtained, of course 😃 ), it took me a while to figure out how to make them work. God I _hate hate hate_ vague instructions on quests like that. I kept clicking on the “reins” icon, and the ram would speed up for about two steps, then slow right back down again. I was on the ram for more than a minute (and you only get four minutes) before I figured out that you have to keep clicking repeatedly to make it go faster and _keep going_ faster. I mean, c’mon, the tooltip on the reins icon says something like “Loosen the reins to make it go faster!”, but in actuality clicking the icon actually makes you use a riding crop on the ram - absolutely no relation to “loosening the reins”. What, is it too politically incorrect to actually say, “Smack the ram to make it run?” Then I only accidentally realized that thing in my buff bar that counts up to 100 was the gauge telling me when my ram was about to become “exhausted”. Grr. Just FYI, the half barrels of fruit along the path reset your Ram’s fatigue timer if you pass close to them. There are two on the trail and one just past the broken barrel cart. hit each one as you pass and you can do the quest all day. Unfortunately there are none in Org for the barking daily but you can do it if you keep the Ram in the yellow (cantor, I think). ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5294 "2009-09-22T13:38:20Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Just FYI, the half barrels of fruit along the path reset your Ram’s fatigue timer if you pass close to them. There are two on the trail and one just past the broken barrel cart. hit each one as you pass and you can do the quest all day. Unfortunately there are none in Org for the barking daily but you can do it if you keep the Ram in the yellow (cantor, I think). Speaking of the barking daily - I’ve done this successfully twice now. I’ve been keeping the ram at the middle speed (canter?) and usually it gets exhausted before I get to the Valley of Spirits. When it recovers, I go past the last set of flags to complete the objective. Then, I dismiss the ram by right-clicking on the buff icon, summon my fast mount, and race back to the questgiver before time runs out. I usually have 10-15 seconds to spare. My question is: once you compete the final bark, do you still have to race the timer to turn in the quest, or can you take your time getting back to turn it in? If it’s a race to turn in the quest, I thought this might be a good tip if anyone hadn’t thought of it. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5295 "2009-09-22T13:56:58Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Just FYI, the half barrels of fruit along the path reset your Ram’s fatigue timer if you pass close to them. There are two on the trail and one just past the broken barrel cart. hit each one as you pass and you can do the quest all day. If you’ve got good timing and are quick with the mouse, you can skip the apple basket that’s past the goblin who gives you the barrels. As you approach, if you jump and spin 180, if you’re close enough he’ll throw you the barrel as you’re already headed back to Brewfest. Time it right, and you can hit the apple basket by the entrance to the canyon before your exhaustion hits 100. Same for when you’re dropping off the barrel, although I haven’t quite got the timing down perfectly for that. The funny thing about doing this is that the barrel the gobbo throws is only a little faster than your ram at full speed, so if you’re already heading away from him when he throws you the barrel, it’ll _slooooooooowly_ chase you as you’re heading back up the track. I once got to the midway point of the track before the barrel finally caught up with me. > [@Skammer](#): > > Speaking of the barking daily - I’ve done this successfully twice now. I’ve been keeping the ram at the middle speed (canter?) and usually it gets exhausted before I get to the Valley of Spirits. When it recovers, I go past the last set of flags to complete the objective. Adjust your speed. What I did yesterday was keep it at a canter (yellow) until the exhaustion meter hit 30, dropped down to a trot (blue) until the meter went down to 10, then kept it on canter until it hit 50, by which time I was already out of the Valley of Honor. I let it drop back down to 30, then kept it on canter until I was past the Valley of Spirits and had the objective completed. Doing it this way I was able to make it back to the Brewfest stall before I ran out of time on the ram. > [@](#): > > My question is: once you compete the final bark, do you still have to race the timer to turn in the quest, or can you take your time getting back to turn it in? If it’s a race to turn in the quest, I thought this might be a good tip if anyone hadn’t thought of it. Once you hit all four locations, you do _not_ have to make it back to the stall with the ram. Once you have objective complete, you’re free to dismiss and run back. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5296 "2009-09-22T14:02:39Z")
By the way, it’s Patch Day, in case you haven’t logged in yet. Looked to be about a 40M download. I skimmed the patch notes – nerfs for rogues and pallies, new Onyxia stuff, and a SFK(!) fix. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5297 "2009-09-22T14:06:55Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > By the way, it’s Patch Day, in case you haven’t logged in yet. Looked to be about a 40M download. I skimmed the patch notes – nerfs for rogues and pallies, new Onyxia stuff, and a SFK(!) fix. Dammit…I’ve got to start logging in BEFORE I leave for work on Tuesdays, just in case. 40 MB isn’t that bad, but there have been some monsters that I had to sit there and watch load. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5298 "2009-09-22T15:58:08Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > By the way, it’s Patch Day, in case you haven’t logged in yet. Looked to be about a 40M download. I skimmed the patch notes – nerfs for rogues and pallies, new Onyxia stuff, and a SFK(!) fix. My guild did the Onyxia raid several times as a last-gasp thing before the changes. Apparently much fun was had by all participants, except Ony herself. I am grinding away at Skyguard rep still so I can have a nifty nether ray. I just started the Outpost dailies. Wrangling aether rays is fun; you end up with a bunch of them attached to you by stretchy leashes, and they bounce along after you in a pretty cute way for critters with such scary teeth. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5299 "2009-09-22T16:22:12Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I hate to ask, but why didn’t you use Divine Shield? I thought you couldn’t get the falling achievements while using any kind of shield or invulnerability? Or did they change that (or did I mishear)? Anyway, next time, just jump off of [this spot](http://www.wowhead.com/?maps=3703:700515) in Shattrath. (You MUST jump and not step off.) > [@Quasimodem](#): > > 1. Do different warrior trainers offer different training? The trainers in the starting areas only offer lower levels, if I recall correctly. If you get lost trying to find your trainer in a capital city, talk to a guard, ask about a Class Trainer, then ask for Warrior. That will put a little red flag on your map for you where the trainers are. > [@](#): > > 1. I seem to have lost my “in-game friend” **Amberale** , and I was wondering if someone could look **Wolkenlaufre** up in the armory and guide us a little? I’ll send myself a message right now to check him out when I get home. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > My shaman (level 30! air totem!) hit the AH again, looking for a helm, and still can’t find anything less than **75g**! Do you have any LW friends? They might be able to make you something. Otherwise, I posted a guide somewhere in this thread about how to use the search features on Wowhead to find upgrades, which could be a good way to see what quests to do or bosses to grind. Aha, [here it is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11433666&postcount=3837)! > [@Quasimodem](#): > > never mind about the elixir. I see it does wear off in 8 minutes.😉 Plus, most buffs of this kind (a) will disappear when you mount (or shapeshift) and (b) can be gotten rid of by right-clicking the buff icon that appears next to your map. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > And BTW, I chose “devastate” as my talent point, that’s correct isn’t it? If you’re staying with this Protection spec, yes, that’s perfectly right. Devastate should be one of your main attacks, and it replaces Sunder Armor. (It does the same armor-reducing effect on your enemy, but it also causes damage.) > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Well, I DID that , **Rik** , and I now have TWO dart icons, neither of which work. It sounds like you still have the darts themselves on your action bar, instead of the skill to use them. Make sure you open up your \*\*ability \*\*book (“P”), go to the \*\*General \*\*tab, and drag down the \*\*Throw \*\*button. > [@martu](#): > > I am not a warrior but have read up a bit about this while investigating tanking for my pally and the recommended tank warrior glyphs are Blocking, Revenge and then one of Devastate or Heroic strike so replace Glyph of Sweeping Strikes. Warriors please correct me here if I’m wrong. Absolutely correct. Sweeping Strikes is of zero use for a Protection Warrior, so **Quasi** , you are good to replace that one. (There are actually some other glyphs that are good for tanking depending on the situation, but it’s not really relevant to what Wolkie would need.) > [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > Unfortunately there are none in Org for the barking daily but you can do it if you keep the Ram in the yellow (cantor, I think). Personally, I keep the ram at a trot (green) while bursting into canter (yellow). This is a technique whereby you hit the reins just enough to slip you into the next speed, but then let yourself drop back down again. This will often avoid ticking up your Exhaustion debuff. So it basically looks like a really jerky ride as you pop in and out of the higher speed. Once I’ve barked at my last location, I whip the ram all the way up to gallop and ride it to full Exhaustion, then dismount and ride my normal mount back to turn in the quest. This usually gives me a full minute of wiggle room. > [@Skammer](#): > > My question is: once you compete the final bark, do you still have to race the timer to turn in the quest, or can you take your time getting back to turn it in? Yes, you must \*\*turn in \*\*the quest before the timer expires. You won’t get credit if the timer runs out, even if you’ve barked at all the locations. > [@Bosstone](#): > > The funny thing about doing this is that the barrel the gobbo throws is only a little faster than your ram at full speed, so if you’re already heading away from him when he throws you the barrel, it’ll _slooooooooowly_ chase you as you’re heading back up the track. I actually had one hit me \*\*just \*\*as I got to the turn-in, once. (Fortunately, it’s only the animation that’s delayed. The barrel itself appears in your inventory immediately.) ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5300 "2009-09-22T16:30:47Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Once you hit all four locations, you do _not_ have to make it back to the stall with the ram. Once you have objective complete, you’re free to dismiss and run back. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Yes, you must \*\*turn in \*\*the quest before the timer expires. You won’t get credit if the timer runs out, even if you’ve barked at all the locations. Okay – I think **Bosstone** misunderstood my question: I know I can dismiss the ram before turning in the quest; I was wondering if I had to turn in the quest before the timer ran out even if I had completed the objective. **SFG** says yes, which is what I thought. So I can’t finish the barking and then go browse the AH before heading back to the questgiver. That’s what I thought, which is why I dismiss the ram and use my fast mount once the barking is done. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=264) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=266)