# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 266
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5301 "2009-09-22T16:41:18Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I thought you couldn’t get the falling achievements while using any kind of shield or invulnerability? Or did they change that (or did I mishear)? It’s a very fine distinction, as I understand it. The abilities that prevent you from earning the achievement are those like Slow Fall which remove the possibility of taking any falling damage at all. On the other hand, things like Divine Shield and Feline Grace still count, because you’re falling at a normal rate and you still “take” falling damage, but the abilities simply mitigate the damage taken. I got the achievement by throwing my Pally off the top of the Aldor elevator and hitting DS on the way down, and on my Druid by jumping off the top of the main Thunder Bluff elevator. > [@Skammer](#): > > Okay – I think **Bosstone** misunderstood my question: I know I can dismiss the ram before turning in the quest; I was wondering if I had to turn in the quest before the timer ran out even if I had completed the objective. **SFG** says yes, which is what I thought. So I can’t finish the barking and then go browse the AH before heading back to the questgiver. That’s what I thought, which is why I dismiss the ram and use my fast mount once the barking is done. That is what I was answering, I thought. WoWwiki [backs me up](http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Bark_for_Drohn%27s_Distillery!): > [@](#): > > It is not necessary to return to the quest giver before the mount timer runs out; just visit all the banners. As such, there is plenty of time to finish this quest. I volunteer to test this tonight. I’ll wait until the timer runs out after I do the banners but before I turn in the quest. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5302 "2009-09-22T16:55:15Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > That is what I was answering, I thought. WoWwiki [backs me up](http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Bark_for_Drohn%27s_Distillery!):I volunteer to test this tonight. I’ll wait until the timer runs out after I do the banners but before I turn in the quest. I have done this two nights in a row, and dismounted both times turning in the quest well after the timer has elapsed. It does not matter. All you have to do is hit the four spots within the four minutes - relatively simple even if you fatigue the ram. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5303 "2009-09-22T16:57:31Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > WoWwiki [backs me up](http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Bark_for_Drohn%27s_Distillery!):I volunteer to test this tonight. I’ll wait until the timer runs out after I do the banners but before I turn in the quest. Huh, interesting. If that’s the case the quest is pretty easy - not that I’m complaining! Two more days of Brewfest dailies and I should be be able to finish the holiday meta-achievement for my drake! ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5304 "2009-09-22T17:05:59Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > For those who are too low-level to eat/drink all the brewfest food and drinks: > > Those achievements don’t need to be performed during brewfest. So unless you plan on twinking, you can just stash away the high level stuff. Are you sure about that? I wondered the same thing, but somebody pointed out the tooltips on the brews themselves say, “Requires Brewfest”. So while I was able to get the Noble Garden achievement by putting bunny ears on a female orc in July, it looks like you can only drink these beers (and therefore get the achievement) during Brewfest. > [@jayjay](#): > > Actually, no…I was headsmacking _myself_ because I completely forgot the difference between the actual darts and the “Thrown” ability, as far as dragging to the action bar goes. I haven’t had a toon that had to LEARN Thrown for a while…when I make a rogue, it’s already there! But upon rereading, it looks like I simply restated/rephrased what you said. > [@Skammer](#): > > My question is: once you compete the final bark, do you still have to race the timer to turn in the quest, or can you take your time getting back to turn it in? If it’s a race to turn in the quest, I thought this might be a good tip if anyone hadn’t thought of it. I didn’t make it back before the time expired, but still succeeded on the quest. So it looks like you just have to hit the four locations before time is up. Once you’ve hit all four there’s no hurry to get back to the questgiver. Played my draenei fire mage some last night. Since last time I took the advice of several of you and did away with the overly-complex spell rotation I’d devised. With a few gear changes to add spell power, I quested all night using Pyroblast -\> Fireball -\> another Fireball if necessary -\> finish with Fire Blast/Scorch/wand/another Fireball depending on how many HP the mob has left. As long as I kept Mana Shield up I stayed alive, and had relatively few mana problems. Only one death all night, when I trotted up the rudder of the second sunken ship on the coast of the Wetlands and ran smack into the undead Captain Wossname, who was 4 levels higher than me and hits like a truck. That quest to kill 13 Cursed Sailors, 5 Cursed Marines, and obtain Snellig’s Snuff Box is a bitch as a cloth-armored caster. Mainly because you have to kill so many more Sailors than Marines, but the Marines seem to be the only ones who want to spawn _outside_ of the ships in any significant numbers. And I discovered it was next to impossible to get onto/into the ships and attack one of the Sailors there without bringing a whole crowd of them down on myself. I managed a few that way, but I eventually had to put the quest on hold and work on other quests for a while to allow the few Sailors outside the ships time to respawn. This was the first time I’d played my mage since patch 3.2. **1** , and it would appear that they fixed that stupid-long wand cooldown that was introduced in 3.2. **0**. I may have been imagining it, though. But it still seemed like I was once again able to switch straight to my wand after casting a spell. While I was killing gnolls for the Tramping Paws quest I bumped into another draenei mage who was doing the same quest. She was a few levels lower than me and invited me to group with her, but I had my AutoDecline addon enabled and didn’t feel like logging out to turn it off. So I just went and grinded other mobs for XP and stayed out of her way to let her finish the quest, then I finished it myself after she was done. Then I got a whisper that I thought was from her: “Are you busy now?” So I answered, “Not at the moment”, assuming she was going to ask me for help with something. The reply was a long time coming, so I shift-clicked on the name and saw it was actually a lvl 1 gnome rogue somewhere in Dun Morogh. Finally the reply came back: “We have 33000 gold stockpiled on this server. Would you like to buy some gold?” :mad: Me: “No thank you.” \ ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5305 "2009-09-22T17:20:12Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Anyway, next time, just jump off of [this spot](http://www.wowhead.com/?maps=3703:700515) in Shattrath. (You MUST jump and not step off.) That’s where I did it, though I was jumping from the other side of the bridge (directly across from the marked spot, not the otherh _end_ of the bridge). > [@](#): > > Do you have any LW friends? They might be able to make you something. Otherwise, I posted a guide somewhere in this thread about how to use the search features on Wowhead to find upgrades, which could be a good way to see what quests to do or bosses to grind. Aha, [here it is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11433666&postcount=3837)! Thanks! One of my alts is a LW, but too low-level to make me a hat. I just wonder what’s up with leather hats on my server being so overpriced on the AH. I can find cloth, mail, and plate helms for reasonable prices, but leather helm pricing is just outrageous. Almost everything showing a % like 273%, 528%… I’m starting to wonder if it’s just price gouging (and even then, why only the _leather_ and not the other types? It’s not like it’s even just one person doing it - there are multiple sellers.) or if there’s an Enchanter out there who just prefers to DE leather hats (the same way I tend to buy mostly cloaks for my main to DE), or what the deal is. Anyway, my shaman hit lvl 31 and is about halfway to 32, when she’ll be able to wear the leather hat I had in the guild bank. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5306 "2009-09-22T17:22:30Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > That’s where I did it, though I was jumping from the other side of the bridge (directly across from the marked spot, not the otherh _end_ of the bridge). In case other folks are looking for good falling spots the easiest one for me is at Dun Niffelem in Storm Peaks. When you land at the flight master just walk (don’t jump) off the ledge towards the center of the crater. Boom, instant achievement. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5307 "2009-09-22T17:25:29Z")
Although **SFG** already answered this, another place to fall off of to get the original 65 yard achievement AND the Drunken Stupor achievement is off the top of Frostsaber Rock in Winterspring. I too was getting frustrated with dying or not taking enough damage from falling, so I went to the place where I got the original achievement…worked flawlessly. Out of 17,000+ hp, ended up with about 370 left. So (my theory) the damage scales, leaving you with about 2% health left. I thought Divine Shield negated the possibility for the achievements, so my pally went old school instead to get them. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5308 "2009-09-22T17:28:54Z")
The [wiki page](http://www.wowwiki.com/Going_Down%3F) on the achievement is entertaining to read. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5309 "2009-09-22T17:39:10Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Although **SFG** already answered this, another place to fall off of to get the original 65 yard achievement AND the Drunken Stupor achievement is off the top of Frostsaber Rock in Winterspring. I too was getting frustrated with dying or not taking enough damage from falling, so I went to the place where I got the original achievement…worked flawlessly. Out of 17,000+ hp, ended up with about 370 left. So (my theory) the damage scales, leaving you with about 2% health left. > > I thought Divine Shield negated the possibility for the achievements, so my pally went old school instead to get them. If you jump off my favorite jumping spot in Shattrath (on the bridge across from Aldor Tier), you end up with about 25% health left. At least I did, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5310 "2009-09-22T17:46:10Z")
Hmm, to get that achievement I ran off the elvator to Scryer’s Tier in Shatt. That didn’t work (not high enough), so I got on my flying mount and flew straight up until I was just above the platform level, and dismissed my mount. Worked perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5311 "2009-09-22T17:48:42Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > My question is: once you compete the final bark, do you still have to race the timer to turn in the quest, or can you take your time getting back to turn it in? If it’s a race to turn in the quest, I thought this might be a good tip if anyone hadn’t thought of it. The timer ends when you do the last bark. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5312 "2009-09-22T17:58:28Z")
Has anyone already killed Direbrew yet? How many players does it take or can you solo it at 80? ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5313 "2009-09-22T18:00:16Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Has anyone already killed Direbrew yet? How many players does it take or can you solo it at 80? My guild has been doing it regularly with four or five players. Someone in the guild, a death knight I believe, nearly soloed him but died anyway. I haven’t heard of anyone else in my guild trying it. I suppose you could try to solo him, but I wouldn’t do it myself. We like to go in groups because often you get more chances at the same piece of loot that way. Sometimes things drop twice. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5314 "2009-09-22T18:04:42Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Has anyone already killed Direbrew yet? How many players does it take or can you solo it at 80? I would say not soloable. He has 300k hp and brings lots of adds. The first day I tried to three-man it: a priest, a mage, and a warrior in heroic-or-better gear; we failed to take him down even once. On the other hand, yesterday I was in a great group with a DK tank and three hunters with me healing, and we burned him down very quickly each time. But three hunters with their pets: thats a lot of dps and aggro distribution for the adds! ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5315 "2009-09-22T18:21:57Z")
Just for fun … I like playing “photographer” in-game, taking screenshots of cool views that I think would make good desktop wallpaper, or posing my toons for “portraits”. So the other night I took shot of my belf paladin, Keliraeda, walking into the Orgrimmar inn (across from the bank). Her pose, the way she’s framed in the doorway, and the coloring of the scene (especially after I applied the Dark Strokes filter in Photoshop) really gave it an “Old West/South of the border” feel. That, combined with her new “teh sexy” leg armor prompted me to add a dialogue bubble. [Enjoy](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/keliraeda_orgrimmar_pants.jpg)! ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5316 "2009-09-22T18:41:14Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > That’s where I did it, though I was jumping from the other side of the bridge (directly across from the marked spot, not the otherh _end_ of the bridge). > Thanks! One of my alts is a LW, but too low-level to make me a hat. I just wonder what’s up with leather hats on my server being so overpriced on the AH. I can find cloth, mail, and plate helms for reasonable prices, but leather helm pricing is just outrageous. Almost everything showing a % like 273%, 528%… I’m starting to wonder if it’s just price gouging (and even then, why only the _leather_ and not the other types? It’s not like it’s even just one person doing it - there are multiple sellers.) or if there’s an Enchanter out there who just prefers to DE leather hats (the same way I tend to buy mostly cloaks for my main to DE), or what the deal is. Anyway, my shaman hit lvl 31 and is about halfway to 32, when she’ll be able to wear the leather hat I had in the guild bank. More likely you have a high number of Rogue/Shaman/Hunter twinks in the population. They tend to dry up the available AH pool and have gobs of gold to spend which drives up prices. especially since you are right at the beginning level for Green headgear and LWs don’t make hats so you are more dependent on drops unlike other leather wear. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5317 "2009-09-22T19:06:35Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Has anyone already killed Direbrew yet? How many players does it take or can you solo it at 80? Depends entirely on your gear level. I can see us easily three manning it. The thing is you want all 5 so you can get all 5 summons. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5318 "2009-09-22T19:07:19Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Just for fun … > > I like playing “photographer” in-game, taking screenshots of cool views that I think would make good desktop wallpaper, or posing my toons for “portraits”. So the other night I took shot of my belf paladin, Keliraeda, walking into the Orgrimmar inn (across from the bank). Her pose, the way she’s framed in the doorway, and the coloring of the scene (especially after I applied the Dark Strokes filter in Photoshop) really gave it an “Old West/South of the border” feel. That, combined with her new “teh sexy” leg armor prompted me to add a dialogue bubble. > > [Enjoy](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/keliraeda_orgrimmar_pants.jpg)! Hahaha! ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5319 "2009-09-22T20:28:12Z")
[![](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkie92209.jpg) ](https://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff71/Drummerboy49/wolkie92209.jpg) This is what we look like as of today, y’all. Thanks for the help! Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5320 "2009-09-22T20:30:48Z")
> [@Telperien](#): > > Hahaha! Me too! Loved it **Rik**! You can just SEE that in her expression.😃 Quasi-Question: If I’m standing on 0 yards and the quest-helper arrow is pointing straight down, but there’s no water to dive and no cave, what then? Quasi [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=265) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=267)