# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 268
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5341 "2009-09-23T15:56:56Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Yup, fall damage scales (AFAIK directly, such that a fall of X meters will always damage a character Y%.) Which, IMO, is one of the most deeply retarded mechanics in the game. I have a thousand times as much HP and armor (only slight hyperbole) as a level one, but we take exactly the same percentage of damage when we fall. You’d think picking up 79 levels would give me some more wiggle room. > > **See also: jumping.** I can take a 25,000 damage melee strike to the face and not flinch, and even my tanking set puts me at over 3,000 AP, but I don’t get even an extra inch of height on my jumps? I can’t clear the same fucking obstacles that I couldn’t get over at level 1? Really? **Really?** The falling damage thing (if true) is annoying, though I’m fairly sure I’ve survived falls as an 80 that killed me as a lowbie (falling off of a Thunder Bluff bridge, for instance). But I’m totally on the designer’s side on the jumping thing. There are enough places where someone spamming jumps in supposedly-uncrossable mountains can sneak into places they shouldn’t be; imagine having to design around a scalable jumping ability. Bleah. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5342 "2009-09-23T15:57:44Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > (Also, I wandered around the old world grabbing Org and Thunder Bluff rep; where’s the best old-world place to rep up Darkspear? Stranglethorn, maybe?) Stranglethorn’s got 19 quests that increase Troll rep. You might try Feralas, there’s another 28 quests there. [Check this link](http://www.wowhead.com/?quests=1.357&filter=cr=1;crs=530;crv=0). You can change the zone to see which quests in a given zone give Troll rep by hovering over the zone name up where it says Database \> Quests \> Kalimdor \> Feralas. If you want to see zones in the Eastern Kingdom, hover over Kalimdor and use the dropdown. It’ll keep the filter settings when you change. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5343 "2009-09-23T15:58:47Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > (Also, I wandered around the old world grabbing Org and Thunder Bluff rep; where’s the best old-world place to rep up Darkspear? Stranglethorn, maybe?) I think most of the troll rep in Stranglethorn is Zandalar Tribe. I haven’t seen a lot of Darkspear quest centers. I’ve gotten most of my Darkspear rep from cloth turn-ins and “overflow” from other Horde rep. ETA: Feralas! Thanks, **Bosstone** …I knew I’d seen Darkspear rep somewhere else and it was off (at least) the witch doctor guy in front of the long tent in Camp Mojache. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5344 "2009-09-23T16:07:04Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I think most of the troll rep in Stranglethorn is Zandalar Tribe. I haven’t seen a lot of Darkspear quest centers. I’ve gotten most of my Darkspear rep from cloth turn-ins and “overflow” from other Horde rep. I THINK all the level-40ish quests to kill tons of trolls & bring back various body parts, necklaces, et ctera are Darkspear quests. At least I don’t think my priest has any Zandalar rep, and he did all of those quests. I’ll have to take another look at him later. ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5345 "2009-09-23T18:50:24Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > I think most of the troll rep in Stranglethorn is Zandalar Tribe. Zandalar rep is pretty much exclusive to Zul’Gurub; I don’t think there is any way to acquire rep with that faction that doesn’t involve either killing a mob or turning in a drop from ZG. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5346 "2009-09-23T19:04:21Z")
Tried to reply like an hour or two ago and my external connection tweaked out. Win. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > The falling damage thing (if true) is annoying, though I’m fairly sure I’ve survived falls as an 80 that killed me as a lowbie (falling off of a Thunder Bluff bridge, for instance). I’ll have to test it some time–maybe when I get home. There’s probably enough variation in bridge height and terrain underneath that jumping off different spots of different bridges would cause varying amounts of damage. (And that’s not even factoring in things like a Rogue’s ability to take less fall damage.) > [@](#): > > But I’m totally on the designer’s side on the jumping thing. There are enough places where someone spamming jumps in supposedly-uncrossable mountains can sneak into places they shouldn’t be; imagine having to design around a scalable jumping ability. Bleah. Oh noes, they have to do their jobs! 😛 Given that they’re redesigning all of vanilla Azeroth to open it up to flying mounts in Cataclysm, this is even less of a concern than before. And I don’t want a huge gain in jump height–I’d say 50% more than a level 1 character would be an absolute max, and I’d be happy with a lot less. > [@jayjay](#): > > I think most of the troll rep in Stranglethorn is Zandalar Tribe. AFAIK, there’s no way to get Zandalar rep outside of Zul Gurub, unless you count the turn-in quests for coins, armor tokens, etc. on Yojamba Isle. I don’t recall there being any Zandalar quests in STV proper. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5347 "2009-09-23T19:08:33Z")
Okay…it’s been a while since I’ve done STV, so I’m obviously remembering wrong. Sorry! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5348 "2009-09-23T19:55:38Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Has anyone already killed Direbrew yet? How many players does it take or can you solo it at 80? I’ve been doing it every day, in a group of 4-5 players. I tried with 3, but that didn’t work for us - although I’ve seen unsubstantiated claims that some people have soloed him. ---
**Author:** ![Telperien](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@Telperien](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telperien)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5349 "2009-09-24T01:08:37Z")
I got the kodo! ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5350 "2009-09-24T04:11:47Z")
Way to go Telperien! We just had the Remote drop, but neither me nor my guildy won the roll. ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5351 "2009-09-24T06:27:04Z")
Tired of waiting to reach the way too high hit cap for fire mages, and encouraged by the changes in Tuesday’s patch, i respecced from frostfire to arcane for tonights heroics runs. Oooo mama, I drip sweet dps now. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5352 "2009-09-24T12:07:50Z")
> [@aktep](#): > > Oooo mama, I drip sweet dps now. They have medication for that now. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5353 "2009-09-24T12:51:16Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > The timer ends when you do the last bark. technically, the _quest_ ends when you complete the last bark. the timer is for how long you have the mount not for the quest itself. you just have to do every bark on the ram. so you can finish and still have time left on the ram. ---
**Author:** ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5354 "2009-09-24T13:32:14Z")
So my friend and I were doing some quests last night with our Death Knights in Grizzly Hills. We were working on the quest to obtain 8 Grizzly Flanks, and were working our way along the river happily killing every grizzly bear in sight. Suddenly, a Blood Elf paladin riding a log went zooming past us and shot down the river. He was out of sight in seconds. So: what was he doing? Is there a quest where you can ride a log? Is it a quest available to Alliance players? (we’re Alliance on that server) It just looked like so much fun; it took a lot of willpower for us not to drop everything else and head upstream to see where he came from 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5355 "2009-09-24T13:44:16Z")
Unless there’s a quest I don’t know about (I haven’t been in Grizzly Hills yet, so it’s possible), it sounds like a [rocket](http://www.wowwiki.com/X-51_Nether-Rocket_X-TREME). ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5356 "2009-09-24T14:02:49Z")
Apparently (scroll down to the PVP header) [there are NPCs at Blue Sky Logging Grounds](http://www.wowwiki.com/Grizzly_Hills) for both sides that will let you ride a log downriver to Venture Bay. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5357 "2009-09-24T14:30:56Z")
Heh I want to ride a log! Last night was a bust, firstly I was late home from work so wow time curtailed then only one other guildy was available for our attempt at Scholo and he was a level 53 warlock. Two level 60 paladins and said warlock will do fine as long as we don’t have to fight more than 4 mobs at a time. Unfortunately thanks to a lot of fear effects we found ourselves fighting more than 4 all the time in the first room down the stairs. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5358 "2009-09-24T14:38:42Z")
Well, last night was certainly productive! Razor, Ignis, XT, Kolo, Auri, Mimi, and Hodir all went down in about two and a half, maybe three hours. I picked up the following achievements for Uld25: [Nerf Engineering](http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2932) | [Heartbreaker](http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=3059) | [Stokin’ the Furnace](http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2929) [A Quick Shave](http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2921) | [The Siege of Ulduar](http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=2887) (I’d been missing Ignis) We barely missed the hardmode timer on Hodir–he smashed the cache at maybe 8%. (Proud of myself for not picking up a single stack of Biting Cold–yay for showing the new guild I’m not a moron!) We thought about wiping it, but we decided to just go ahead and kill him to give us more time to work on Thorim’s hardmode. Unfortunately, the raid was called early on account of both Freya and Thorim being bugged–Freya was pulling from across the room, and Thorim was Evade bugged as soon as he jumped down (and some of the arena adds were evading half the time, too). Iron Council was reported as being bugged, too, so we didn’t bother trying it. > [@Telperien](#): > > I got the kodo! I am trying to kill you with my brain out of massive jealousy. Is it working? 😛 > [@aktep](#): > > Oooo mama, I drip sweet dps now. See, there’s where you’re going wrong. You want that DPS hitting the boss, not collecting in a gooey puddle at your feet. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5359 "2009-09-24T14:55:27Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > (Proud of myself for not picking up a single stack of Biting Cold–yay for showing the new guild I’m not a moron!) Oh, don’t worry. I’m sure you’ll have plenty of chances. 😉 I didn’t get much done last night, unfortunately. It sucks getting home at 7:30 and having a hard and fast rule of being off WoW by 9:30 on weeknights. Just enough time to manage my auctions and do dailies. 5 baby venomhide teeth down, 15 to go. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5360 "2009-09-24T15:02:33Z")
I got to be the moron pug during our alt run yesterday; we didn’t have enough people to run BRD as we’d hoped, so Skammer shifted to his level 78 rogue and ran us through part of Sunken Temple in order to get the Egg of Hakkar quest done. But I, who had the quest, brain-farted and started the quest while the level 78 was standing outside the room, and this is one of those instance fights where a big old gate drops down and seals off the room. So there was me and another priest in the room with all the nasties we’d just summoned. I eventually committed suicide to see if it would reset things (it didn’t), and the gates eventually opened and the critters were killed, but not before the time to finish the quest had run out. I tried re-using the quest item to start things over, but no luck, and we didn’t have time to go back out, reset the instance, and start over again. So the whole run was a complete waste. Sorry about that, Skammer. We’ll give it another shot later. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=267) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=269)