# World of Warcraft General Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5421 "2009-09-27T02:28:13Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> They changed it for this year. You just have to sign up for the BotM club to get the needed achievement, with an extraneous achievement once you’ve completed the BotM.

Sweet! That means I just need nine more months to fill out my achievements. 😉

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5422 "2009-09-27T02:48:39Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> ETA: If I’m standing on zero yards, and the green arrow is pointing DOWN, do I just need to stand there and wait (Maury’s Broken Foot) to get there?

Do you mean Cracking Maury’s Foot? Are you at the Ogre Mound? You have to kill ogres until the key drops. Or to get the foot itself (Voodoo Dues)? Same thing…you need to kill the trolls until the foot drops.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5423 "2009-09-27T04:09:56Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Do you mean Cracking Maury’s Foot? Are you at the Ogre Mound? You have to kill ogres until the key drops. Or to get the foot itself (Voodoo Dues)? Same thing…you need to kill the trolls until the foot drops.

If this is in Stranglethorn Vale we’re talking about, Maury is a named mob - a zombie, to be specific. Kill him and take his false foot.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5424 "2009-09-27T04:58:20Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> If this is in Stranglethorn Vale we’re talking about, Maury is a named mob - a zombie, to be specific. Kill him and take his false foot.

:smack:

I haven’t done the quest in a LONG time…

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5425 "2009-09-27T05:00:08Z")

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Incidentally, I got Ambassador tonight and also finished up exploring both Old World continents. Now proceeding to level as normal with interruption for my venomhide dailies (I have 14 teeth now).

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5426 "2009-09-27T05:08:07Z")

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I **know** , Kiddos, but **Wolkie** keeps killing Ogres and not finding the “right one”.

If we stand there long enough, they re-spawn, but they aren’t the right ones!

Will the right one eventually turn up even if I happen to die?:smack:

Looks like I need to charge the mob, thunder-clapping first!🙂

Still something wrong with throwing the darts…

… but I’ll get it figgered out! 🙂

Lower levels see me at FP’s and ask if I can run them through DM, etc., and I have to tell 'em “no, cause I’m an idjit”, and then they don’t believe me 'cause they see my level, even when I tell 'em I’m 59 years of age and demented, they still ask me “why”???

Thanks,

Q

I try to explain I had **LOTS** of help, but I don’t get believed.

:):)🙂

That’s why I got my “kids”!

Y’all _seriously_ **ROCK!** 🙂

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5427 "2009-09-27T05:14:16Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Try this one next time:

There are dozens of ways to skin that cat and your way sounds good too.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5428 "2009-09-27T05:16:14Z")

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> [@Jas09](#):
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> Ah, the “burn through the heal” strat. I think this still works on regular, but they buffed the fight on heroic to make this impossible (the heal is now 50%, not 20%). Blizz doesn’t really like the “zerg” strategies…
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> As far as Ony I’ve only done 10-man so far but we just kept our ranged DPS on Ony except for when the big add came out and let melee handle the whelps. Seemed to work fine, and we had 3 ranged and 3 melee DPS.

It was 20% last week. Still its tough to burn through a 20% heal too many times.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5429 "2009-09-27T05:18:39Z")

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> [@Mogle](#):
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> I agree, more or less.

The no melee damage and hordes of adds during phase 2 make it kinda tough.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5430 "2009-09-27T05:27:27Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> The one previous time I was in a “hardcore” raiding guild, things did not go well. Basically, I got in trouble for things like the DPS pulling off me when they massively overgeared me and I was given zero lead time, including on kiting fights where half the time the boss was out of melee range. :rolleyes: Needless to say, I was more than a little paranoid coming into a potentially similar situation.
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> I can stop worrying! The lead tank whispered me last night to tell me that they’re very happy with me. 😃 I’m incredibly relieved to know that I’m working with people who care more about your ability to learn and listen than judging you based on gear gaps and jitters.

I wish I had the time for a hard core guild but I just can’t. ☹

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5431 "2009-09-27T05:28:31Z")

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> [@Redwing](#):
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> That’s not planning, that’s improvising on the spot. It requires a completely different skill set than any boss fight in the game

Wow, that’s kinda what I like about it.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5432 "2009-09-27T10:36:56Z")

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Yeah, it was the broken foot thing, and thanks, I’ll just keep wiping them out!

Also… no mailbox in Gadgetzan, huh?

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5433 "2009-09-27T15:02:45Z")

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There is a mailbox in Gadgetzan, right outside the inn. Mailboxes of different races look different. It is just to the left of the inn’s door, if you’re outside looking in.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5434 "2009-09-27T15:08:22Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> I **know** , Kiddos, but **Wolkie** keeps killing Ogres and not finding the “right one”.
> 
> If we stand there long enough, they re-spawn, but they aren’t the right ones!
> 
> Will the right one eventually turn up even if I happen to die?:smack:

It’s just a “rare drop”, Q - kill ogres all over that area and wait for it to drop off one. It doesn’t have to be in that exact spot, it’s just giving you a “bullseye” to aim for if you’re looking at a big map.

And as for the people who ask to be run through a dungeon - just say no! You don’t have to explain why - though the annoying ones will ask - because if you spent all your time helping strangers who are just trying to get a free ride, you’d have no time to play for your own enjoyment.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5435 "2009-09-27T15:32:45Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> It’s just a “rare drop”, Q - kill ogres all over that area and wait for it to drop off one. It doesn’t have to be in that exact spot, it’s just giving you a “bullseye” to aim for if you’re looking at a big map.
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> And as for the people who ask to be run through a dungeon - just say no! You don’t have to explain why - though the annoying ones will ask - because if you spent all your time helping strangers who are just trying to get a free ride, you’d have no time to play for your own enjoyment.

I agree with both paragraphs. Rare drops can drive you batty. I’ve spent an hour or more trying for rare quest drops and getting nothing. (Which isn’t even to mention farming for whelplings!)

I had an incipient beggar last night. I’d turned in the crimson crystal quest-starter with the elf at Cenarion OUtpost in Hellfire, and she summoned the giant with it. I killed it, and a fellow death knight whispered me “How’d you do that!?”

He’d been having a lot of trouble with the colossi across the way, and was kind of hinting that he wanted to team up for them. Unfortunately for him, it was something like 2AM and well past time for me to log out and sleep. So I told him I was just about to log out and did so.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [September 27, 2009, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5436 "2009-09-27T19:14:31Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> :smack:
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> I haven’t done the quest in a LONG time…

I only remembered because I’ve done the quest recently, twice in fact, while working on my alts.  
I got Keliraeda, my belf pally, to level 61 last night, and then realized, “Holy crap, I’ve gained 8 levels in a week!” (Keli was lvl 53 when we ran ST last Saturday). I guess I can continue to endorse the [TourGuide](http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tourguide.aspx)addon. Following the guide is speeding me right along! Of course, it also helped that I hit Outland as soon as she reached level 58, but then TourGuide had me doing quests that involved killing a lot of level 60-62 mobs. Keli also got her first flying mount last night (I picked the blue wyvern).

While questing in Hellfire Peninsula the last couple days (I was a bit peeved to discover that the Horde quests handed out at Thrallmar are virtually identical to the Alliance quests handed out at Honor Hold), I’ve been astonished by how lively the PvP action has been with those three objectives you can capture. My chat log showed a near nonstop stream of “The stadium has been captured by the Horde!” “The overlook has been captured by the Alliance!” It’s been going back and forth so much that I don’t think either faction has managed to keep control of all three objectives for more than a few minutes at a time. This is a dramatic contrast to when I was questing in HP with my human pally (on a different server) — it was next to impossible to do the dailies to capture the objectives because almost every time I was there the Alliance already controlled them, and there just weren’t enough Horde players to capture them and flip them over. It was so bad that if Alliance players saw Horde players capturing the objectives, nobody would interfere. We had to let them capture them so that we would even be able to take them back and get credit for the dailies.

Did that Grillok “Darkeye” NPC used to be an elite? I got the quest to kill him, and the quest text recommended 2 players, and so I asked in guild chat if somebody wanted to come help me with him. But I decided to peek in on him, and discovered he was merely a normal, non-elite level 61 mob. He had a couple level 61 buddies with him, but I took them out first (I pulled one with Exorcism, and he and the other one ran up to me, but Grillok himself hung back and did nothing while I took out his guards. Then all I had to do was fight him one-on-one. Piece of cake.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5437 "2009-09-28T02:13:30Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> :smack:
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> I haven’t done the quest in a LONG time…

There he goes again, with the :smack:😉

You havin’ trouble with your memory _too_, **jay**?🙂

J/K

Q

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5438 "2009-09-28T02:21:08Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> I guess I can continue to endorse the [TourGuide](http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tourguide.aspx)addon.

**Rik** , when I went to download Tour Guide, it asked me which version of Curse I have: V3 or V4. I couldn’t find that info so I went to “update all” on Curse, and it says I have to be a premium member to use that feature.

Could you kindly guide me through that? It sounds like something that may be beneficial to me.

Thanks

Quasi

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5439 "2009-09-28T03:07:14Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> There he goes again, with the :smack:😉
> 
> You havin’ trouble with your memory _too_, **jay**?🙂
> 
> J/K
> 
> Q

You may wanna check out my post in \*\*this \*\* thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11604235#post11604235](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11604235#post11604235)

Feel better now, my friend?🙂

Quasi

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5440 "2009-09-28T03:57:11Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> **Rik** , when I went to download Tour Guide, it asked me which version of Curse I have: V3 or V4. I couldn’t find that info so I went to “update all” on Curse, and it says I have to be a premium member to use that feature.

Choose Manual Download. When the zipped file is finished downloading, open it and place whatever’s there into your AddOns folder.

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