# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 300
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5981 "2009-10-16T23:10:06Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Also, I’ve been to the Dark Portal many times (also killed some lvl 55 guards around it), but never went in, because it looked like an instance, and I’ve never done one alone before. (See how REAL this game is to me?), but now that I know what’s on the other side, I’ll be sure to go through. Just don’t panic (like I did) when you first go through the portal and see ginormous level 70 elite demons charging at you! They’ll ignore you. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Are you sure it was something you purchased from the AH, and not that you did the same Rogue quest in another zone? I seem to recall having that happen when I moved a Rogue between two lower-level zones. Yeah, I had specifically purchased it the day before. Unfortunately, I can’t remember now what it was called. > [@Goblinboy](#): > > For those of you talking about the Portal to Outland, I’m pretty sure they’ve lifted the level limit on entering it. I zoned through it on my 50 warlock when running away from the demons surrounding it. I didn’t even think about the level limit till I was already through. They also automatically give you the flight path to Shattrath now, too. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5982 "2009-10-17T00:03:47Z")
So da **Wolk’** can go in as a 53, even if he’s Prot-Specced only? **SFG** says 58, and y’all gotta remember: Me and da **Wolk’** don’t know the strategy of the game as well as **you** do. I know we’re “well-equipped” weapon-wise, and we know (pretty much) how to use 'em, but we ain’t so good on “Intel”. That’s a challenge, right? For me, I mean. But even if I have to grind to 58, it’s _still_ better in **Az’** than out in this damn place! What was it that “Gary” guy said before they shot his ass in Utah? “Let’s **do** it!”? I really do love this game. Bill the redneck: “An’ I ain’t jus’ _sayin’_ it man! I love it!” Okay, enough satire for now. Back to da the “shit”.😉 (Old Viet Nam war phrase) Q ---
**Author:** ![Goblinboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3be4f8/32.png) [@Goblinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Goblinboy)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5983 "2009-10-17T01:16:48Z")
**Quasi** , you probably shouldn’t plan to head too far into Outlands until you’re 58 unless you just want to look around. And it’s a great view when you first go through the portal, so sneaking in and taking a look around if you’re in the area anyway could be fun. But there aren’t any quests you can do and little you could kill until 58. So is anyone besides me following the little tidbits they’re releasing on Cataclysm? I’ve been hitting MMO-Champion every morning for news. They’re mostly talking about Icecrown Citadel right now, but and patch 3.3. Personally, I’ve already got my name picked out and reserved for my troll druid on Blackhand. I know it’s probably still at least 6 months away, but I’m really looking forward to more exploring and questing in a reimagined Azeroth. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5984 "2009-10-17T02:22:19Z")
So just out of curiosity, has anybody ever tried _running_ the Deeprun Tram route between SW and IF? ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5985 "2009-10-17T02:40:19Z")
I have, and I’m proably the poorest example. I **know** it’s gotta be dark in there because of all the smelting they must do, but I mean _Damn!_ “You can spend a week there in one day!” I plan to avoid it every chance I get, because it IS hard to navigate and find stuff there w/o Night Out! ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5986 "2009-10-17T02:47:57Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > So just out of curiosity, has anybody ever tried _running_ the Deeprun Tram route between SW and IF? Yep, a few times. It’s not that interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5987 "2009-10-17T03:03:13Z")
I think we’ll go on through the Dark Portal and just take a look. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5988 "2009-10-17T03:20:34Z")
On second thought, do the Eastern Plaguelands have a path OTHER than the Chillwind Camp? I seem to get my ass licked every time I land at Chillwind and go East. It would be a lot easier if I could avoid all that and just START OUT in the east. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5989 "2009-10-17T03:39:04Z")
Yeah, **Obe-Kay-Be**! 😉 Just rode from Chill Wind Camp to go East to THEIR Plaguelands and guess what??? “Dem Bones” formed a skeleton **chain** east to west that we couldn’'t ride through, so we didn’t EVEN get a chance to get off and fight! **Silka** wants to know does anybody need a human who’s not a masochist? 🙂 She says to tell y’all her armor’s gettin’ dented so bad the _steam_ can’t come out, and it’s _chafin’_ her! ☹ No worries, we still got some termite-pickin to do, don’t we Gal? _Whinny_ **WILLLBURRR**! 😉 God, I love role-playing! Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5990 "2009-10-17T05:42:25Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > So just out of curiosity, has anybody ever tried _running_ the Deeprun Tram route between SW and IF? Sorry. Totally MISSED the emphasis on the word “running” and thought you meant the arrival point and then getting around. I get so disoriented there it ain’t even funny and it makes me wanna _avoid_ having anything to do with the area or its quests at all. I guess it’s different for anyone who’s played for a while and knows their way around, but as for me? I prefer the “wide open spaces”😃 Sorry for the “detour”, **Rik** , but I felt like I needed to explain that every once in a while I have an “idea”, even though it misses its point!:D;):D;) Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Words_on_the_Interweb)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5991 "2009-10-17T07:04:21Z")
Instead of trying to ride through everything, try slowing down and pull one thing at a time to clear a path. If you find the creatures are too difficult to do so, then you may not be able to handle whatever’s on the other side that you’re trying to get to. 😉 That said, there is another path to Western Plaguelands, from the Hinterlands; if you go to Aerie Peak in the Hinterlands and head east along the mountains, you’ll find a path leading up and through to Western Plaguelands, near Scholomance. Regarding Outland and the Dark Portal, if you’re having difficulty with the Plaguelands, I would not recommend going to Outland. It’s generally advisable to wait until level 58 before venturing through. If you’re looking for new scenery, you could try Felwood, Winterspring, Un’Goro Crater or Silithus (if you haven’t been there yet). ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5992 "2009-10-17T07:20:18Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > So just out of curiosity, has anybody ever tried _running_ the Deeprun Tram route between SW and IF? My initial system didn’t have enough RAM… I managed to fall off the tram a couple times. So yep, I did it. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5993 "2009-10-17T08:01:41Z")
Well, I think that my mistake has been to believe I can ride down (or up) a road, and because I’m in motion, they won’t come after me. In other words, I feel that when I **armor** Wolkie up after he levels to 53, he ought to be able to ride through 55’s with no probs if he keeps going. Guess that’s not the case, as I found out last night!🙂 I laughed out loud when I saw those skeletons link arms and stand across the road, blocking **Wolkie** and **Silka**! :mad: My last thought before I died, was: “How’s _that_ for solidarity?” (Get it?) Thanks! And thanks also for the Hinterlands path suggestion, **Words**! I _know_ y’all get tired of reading it, but I would not still be enjoying WoW if it weren’t for you! Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5994 "2009-10-17T16:17:34Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > I laughed out loud when I saw those skeletons link arms and stand across the road, blocking **Wolkie** and **Silka**! :mad: Where did that happen? I’ve never seen that. ---
**Author:** ![Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Words_on_the_Interweb)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5995 "2009-10-17T19:16:23Z")
My guess is the casters, the way skeleton models cast, if they’re standing next to each other, it probably looks like they’re linking arms. Either that or Quasi is just being poetic about the experience. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5996 "2009-10-17T19:35:55Z")
The undead in Andorhal can be pretty thick, especially around the lich in charge. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5997 "2009-10-17T22:11:40Z")
😃 **Words** is correct, though I didn’t know what those guys were called, and it was only _afterward_ that I convinced myself they had linked arms, so sorry for the misconception there, **Rik**. Did I also remember to mention that as they lined up beside each other they did a can-can to La Cucaracha?:D:D:D Dementia. It’s not just for the senile anymore!🙂 Thanks Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5998 "2009-10-18T05:14:39Z")
I have griped much in the past about my frustrations with playing a mage and trying not to get killed, so I wanted to mention that I’ve been enjoying my mage a whole lot more now that she’s past level 30 (my draenei fire mage on Lightbringer, that is; Wossname, my undead frost mage in the BDL is still only around lvl 22-24). Survivability has gone _way_ up, largely because of Mana Shield and now Ice Armor, but also because I’ve finally got a decent spell rotation (thanks to some suggestions here). My normal rotation opens with Pyroblast, followed immediately by Fireball, and then, depending on how many HP the mob has left, more Fireballs as needed or Scorch if the HP are very low. Sometimes I finish with Fire Blast if appropriate. And I’m handling getting ganged up on much better 😛 Been watching some fun WoW videos lately. Most of you have probably seen these, but I thought I’d share anyway: For the Mages: [M.A.G.E by Nymh](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov07yLusCKs) [Hard Like Heroic](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciuYTeu4Qc) [Holy (Priest)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWrZOa1_xlI) [Ni Hao (A Gold Farmers Story)](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dkkf5NEIo0) [L70etc- Rogues Do It From Behind- EU competition entry](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QTl4uo2LGo) ---
**Author:** ![Anamorphic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/anamorphic/32/3057_2.png) [@Anamorphic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anamorphic)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/5999 "2009-10-18T05:24:03Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I have griped much in the past about my frustrations with playing a mage and trying not to get killed, so I wanted to mention that I’ve been enjoying my mage a whole lot more now that she’s past level 30 (my draenei fire mage on Lightbringer, that is; Wossname, my undead frost mage in the BDL is still only around lvl 22-24).] Hey, I’m on Lightbringer as well! Horde-side, though. Phlegmy, 80 undead priest. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6000 "2009-10-18T07:10:29Z")
Nothing like blowing all your money on a big purchase. As soon as I hit 4000 gold (and change), I swung by Honor Hold and bought Epic Flying. …And then realized I was short just a few gold for the actual mount. 😃 So I ducked into Hellfire Citadel: Ramparts, and let me tell you, that place is pretty profitable when you don’t have to split 5 ways. I earned about 55 gold in one run between dropped silver and vendored loot with the added enjoyment of watching the mobs attack me with less force than a stiff breeze. Dual-Spec, Cold Weather Flying, and Epic Flying…those are the big-ticket “necessities”, and I’ve got them all on my Pally. I feel pretty proud of myself; he’s not even 80 yet, still just 78. Any more gold earned is just gravy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=299) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=301)