# World of Warcraft General Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6221 "2009-10-24T01:33:12Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> … no higher levels will acknowledge a bow/salute any more!!!
> 
> When I get on the boat at the harbor and I see a higher level player than me?
> 
> I always turn **Wolkie** and **Silka** , and we both bow and salute.
> 
> No acknowledgement at all.
> 
> No wave, no nothing.
> 
> ☹
> 
> Q

That’s an individual player thing. Some people are rude and/or don’t really think about whether they should respond to that. Others just don’t notice. I get so engrossed in what I’m doing in WoW that I sometimes don’t even notice when someone salutes or says hello or whatever.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6222 "2009-10-24T01:35:28Z")

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Remind me again how you insert a time delay into a macro? My gnome rogue is a little ‘ho’ who likes to run up to female toons and, er, make advances, then run away laughing maniacally. I made a little macro like so:

/whistle  
/hug  
/laugh

… and I want to put delays between the emotes so that you can actually hear the /whistle. As it is now you just hear the laugh while

Wain whistles at …  
Wain hugs …  
Wain laughs at …

scrolls in the chat box.

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**Author:** ![Goblinboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3be4f8/32.png) [@Goblinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Goblinboy)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6223 "2009-10-24T02:02:19Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Remind me again how you insert a time delay into a macro? My gnome rogue is a little ‘ho’ who likes to run up to female toons and, er, make advances, then run away laughing maniacally. I made a little macro like so:
> 
> /whistle  
> /hug  
> /laugh
> 
> … and I want to put delays between the emotes so that you can actually hear the /whistle. As it is now you just hear the laugh while
> 
> Wain whistles at …  
> Wain hugs …  
> Wain laughs at …
> 
> scrolls in the chat box.

You can’t put any programmed delays in macros. It’d be too easily abused. You can however use castsequence to put it all on one button, I think. I’m not 100% certain it works with emotes the way it does with spells.

Something like

/castsequence whistle, hug, laugh

might work. You’d have to hit the button 3 times to do everything, but you’d get the pauses at whatever length you need. And I’m at work and can’t look up the format for castsequence so I’m not even sure that’s the right way with spells.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6224 "2009-10-24T02:33:12Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> That’s an individual player thing. Some people are rude and/or don’t really think about whether they should respond to that. Others just don’t notice. I get so engrossed in what I’m doing in WoW that I sometimes don’t even notice when someone salutes or says hello or whatever.

Okay, point taken, **jay** , but let me just say this:

I wish I could just get some kind of “nod” to know I have shown my respect.

**Thank You!**

Quasi/ **Wolkie and Silka** 🙂

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6225 "2009-10-24T04:37:51Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Druids: Have druids _always_ gotten Travel Form earlier than everybody else gets their first mount?

Yep. They used to get it at 30, when the first mount everyone got was at 40. Then they dropped the mount requirement to 30, so we got travel form at 20. Then they dropped the mount level even further, to 20, so now we get travel form at 16.

Forgot to mention: got exalted with Sha’tar tonight, bringing me to 38 exalted factions. And, got [25 Tabards](http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1021) after I purchased the Sha’tar tabard.

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**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6226 "2009-10-24T10:10:53Z")

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> [@Darwins\_Finch](#):
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> Yep. They used to get it at 30, when the first mount everyone got was at 40. Then they dropped the mount requirement to 30, so we got travel form at 20. Then they dropped the mount level even further, to 20, so now we get travel form at 16.

They did? Then what were the massive whines on the Blizzard forums about Travel form being useless because we got it on the same level as we got our mount about? I’m pretty sure that Travel form stayed at level 30 until they dropped the mount level to 20.

**Yeticus Rex** , your second quote would seem to indicate that if the tradeoff is 6 str or less, then 10 crit is the better choice.  
_Shrug_ At any rate I have a feeling that, in the case of Haphan, whatever difference it makes on the dps meter is so small it would get lost in the noise.

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6227 "2009-10-24T12:09:13Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> … no higher levels will acknowledge a bow/salute any more!!!
> 
> When I get on the boat at the harbor and I see a higher level player than me?
> 
> I always turn **Wolkie** and **Silka** , and we both bow and salute.
> 
> No acknowledgement at all.
> 
> No wave, no nothing.
> 
> ☹
> 
> Q

=( I always bow or salute back … and if hugged or waved or danced at reply with the same …

Do you also always salute the Thrall? I bow to ‘names’ when I get them in a quest also…

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6228 "2009-10-24T12:24:25Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> =( I always bow or salute back … and if hugged or waved or danced at reply with the same …
> 
> Do you also always salute the Thrall? I bow to ‘names’ when I get them in a quest also…

**a**?

I don’t know what the **Thrall** is, Hon? But yeah, I’d salute them too.

If I had time, I would also salute my enemies, right before I lay 'em out.🙂

😉  
Q

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6229 "2009-10-24T12:39:47Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> I don’t know what the **Thrall** is, Hon? But yeah, I’d salute them too.
> 
> If I had time, I would also salute my enemies, right before I lay 'em out.🙂

Thrall is the leader of the orcs and the Warchief of the Horde, so since you’re Alliance, he’s not someone you’re likely to salute unless it’s for a good job at grinding you into the dirt. He’s super-high level! (Same as I couldn’t be saluting Varian Wrynn.) She means if you see your peoples’ leaders around, that kind of thing.

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6230 "2009-10-24T17:10:13Z")

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I did notice, speaking of salutes and the like, that the Dwarves of Ironforge are pretty nice fellows. If you /wave at the guards there, they /wave back. 🙂 They might /salute, too, I’m not sure.  
There’s an outlands quest wherein you get a staff to summon an image of Archmage Vargoth (I think I got the name right). If you /wave at the vision, it /waves back. If you /dance with the vision, it laughs at you. 🙂  
And, from what I remember, in Stratholme, if you /dance with any of the neutral spirits (before gathering aggro from them, of course) they’ll /dance right back at you!

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6231 "2009-10-24T17:48:12Z")

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> [@ArrMatey](#):
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> And, from what I remember, in Stratholme, if you /dance with any of the neutral spirits (before gathering aggro from them, of course) they’ll /dance right back at you!

Last I tried it - if you /rude them, they knock you on your ass!

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6232 "2009-10-24T18:15:31Z")

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> [@Goblinboy](#):
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> You can’t put any programmed delays in macros. It’d be too easily abused. You can however use castsequence to put it all on one button, I think. I’m not 100% certain it works with emotes the way it does with spells.

Just out of curiosity, how could it be abused? I’m not seeing it …

And yeah, /castsequence doesn’t seem to work with emotes. I went to WowWiki’s macro pages, and tried a few different things, but couldn’t get anything to work.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6233 "2009-10-24T18:23:09Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, how could it be abused? I’m not seeing it …

Talk about a one-key char… with delays, I could make a single key do a whole regular solo fight for my mage.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6234 "2009-10-24T20:31:50Z")

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Who do I talk to, Horde-side, to turn off a toon’s XP, and does doing so affect _all_ XP gains, or just BG XP?

I’m asking because I’m using the TourGuide addon, which is a leveling guide. Unfortunately, I don’t think it takes into account “rested XP” or the massive quest XP increases in recent patches. So a result, my belf pally hit Outland at level 58 and is just about to hit lvl 68, and she’s not even halfway through the Outland content and the associated TourGuide guides (she’s finished Hellfire Peninsula & Zangarmarsh, and is about halfway finished with the Terokkar Forest guides (oh, and she soloed Terokkarantula last night!)).

Basically, I want to take her all the way through the Outland content, hitting all the zones (mainly because my human pally mostly skipped Blade’s Edge and Netherstorm on _her_ way through), but I want to maintain a certain level of challenge. At the rate Keliraeda is going, she’s going to be level 75 before she finishes Outland content. I don’t want to just be facerolling my way through everything, and I also want to be able to resist the temptation to buy Northrend gear off the AH long before I actually go to NR.

So I just want to temporarily hold around level 68-70 until I’ve finished Outland and I’m ready to head to NR.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6235 "2009-10-24T20:51:47Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Who do I talk to, Horde-side, to turn off a toon’s XP, and does doing so affect _all_ XP gains, or just BG XP?

There’s an NPC near the battlemasters in Org (in the Valley of Honor) you can talk to for that. He’s stealthed, so you might have to look a little closely to find him.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6236 "2009-10-24T21:05:25Z")

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Thanks 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6237 "2009-10-24T22:17:56Z")

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> [@Mister\_Rik](#):
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> Who do I talk to, Horde-side, to turn off a toon’s XP, and does doing so affect _all_ XP gains, or just BG XP?

It affects all XP. The change was added so PVP twinks wouldn’t have to spaz about accidentally earning too much XP, and something as simple as exploration XP can screw them up.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6238 "2009-10-25T01:44:25Z")

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Aaaand I’ve finally reached the point during Hallow’s End when I really, really, really wish I could /ignore an NPC (including voice)…

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6239 "2009-10-25T20:50:25Z")

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Well that’s really annoying. Apparently, if you try to use a Weighted Pumpkin on a player who is already wearing a “costume” (whether from a “Trick” or a wand), it doesn’t put a pumpkin head on them, you get no credit toward the achievement, _and_ it still uses up your Weighted Pumpkin :mad:

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**Author:** ![Mekhazzio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Mekhazzio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mekhazzio)\
**Post date:** [October 25, 2009, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6240 "2009-10-25T22:04:59Z")

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> [@ArrMatey](#):
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> And, from what I remember, in Stratholme, if you /dance with any of the neutral spirits (before gathering aggro from them, of course) they’ll /dance right back at you!

Actually, you can remove the entire ‘gaining aggro’ bit! You can force the ghosts dance all the way to their un-undeath by simply repeating it every few seconds throughout combat. It was a great way to salvage newbie PUG mistakes - those ghosts used to be nasty business when someone hits them during a fight. Just think of it as the Michael Jackson style of crowd control.

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