# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 322
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6421 "2009-11-02T17:41:47Z")
> [@aktep](#): > > Those characters often don’t even have the item they’re advertising. A new tactic I’ve seen is posting in /2 “Selling [Merlin’s Robe] [Bejeweled Wizard’s Bracers] [Crusader Orb] pst!” Then if you do they respond with a URL to a dodgy website. Ugh, yes. I’ve seen this so often now that I can figure them out with the first post, but wait for the second before hitting the report feature. The one(s) on my server use a specific phrasing in the ads that I can’t recall at the moment, but it really stands out. My husband thinks he saw shill bidding on some desired item he was trying to get off the AH; both the auction poster and the person he got into a bidding war with had those random gibberish names. He let the other person have it, and waited a day when a different one (with a more ‘real’ name as the seller) came up, and bought that one. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6422 "2009-11-02T18:20:01Z")
Ok, I am seriously considering ditching my mining skill and taking up Jewelcrafting…I just wanna stockpile [this list](http://www.wow-professions.com/wowguides/wow_jewelcrafting_leveling_guide.html)…I have a good deal of the upper end stuff and I maybe use some of the lower end stuff in the guild bank; It could use some freed up space. With the Blacksmithing already at 450, I should get my DPS a major boost. I just gotta make sure that the high end scarlet rubies are in good supply to keep up the gemming on better gear as we progress. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6423 "2009-11-02T18:21:23Z")
> [@Darwins\_Finch](#): > > So…I now have [The Exalted](http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Khaz+Modan&cn=Graken&gn=Tempting+Fate), my 25th title and the one I’ll wear from here on out (until/unless it gets diluted with any new factions released with Cataclysm, anyway). Took me about three and a half months after I first decided to go for it, starting at 28 exalted factions. During that time, I’ve killed thousands of pirates, and hundreds of fel orcs, blood elves, trolls, and dragonkin. And spent many a coin. But, it’s worth it, I think, for that little something to set me apart from the “little people” 😃 > > Especially since my gear is pretty crappy… > > I’ll probably do some BGs for now, while working on my rogue alt – who was actually my very first toon; he was my first to 60, second to 70, and he’s been languishing there for all of WotLK thus far. I figure I should get him to 80 before Cataclysm. Besides, I need someone to open all those Froststeel lockboxes I’ve found during my rep grinds. I have one title “of Thunderbluff” on the other hand I have half a dozen guildies with the insane title. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6424 "2009-11-02T18:33:17Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > I suppose it could be a gold seller, and it’s one way they bring in gold to sell. It could also be someone with a lot of time on his hands playing a bunch of alts at different levels. I’m leaning toward gold seller, but there’s a chance it’s not. Maybe. I’m sure more experienced posters will be in here to tell me how wrong I am, **SFG** , right? 😉 It could be a guild’s seller. My current guild has: full guild bank, with stuff that’s actually expected to be getting use, a second guild bank (from a guild which used to be for alts), with “reserves” that aren’t particularly useful to the average guildie, like tons of plants for the guild alchemists, and any donations which are sellable and not of interest for the above get sold. Someone donates three stacks of thorium? The banker checks out whether it’s worth more smelted or raw, if smelted grabs a miner to smelt it pretty please with sugar on top, and then puts it up for sale. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6425 "2009-11-02T18:35:23Z")
> [@aktep](#): > > Raiding is fun! Grats on the kills! > [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Ok, I am seriously considering ditching my mining skill and taking up Jewelcrafting BS+JC is godly for plate tanks, so I’d assume it’s similarly awesome for DPSers. Good luck switching over! I’ve thought about switching my main from Alch/Herb to BS/JC, but the time/cash involved is a little daunting, plus I’m a stubborn bitch who refuses to get rid of the profs I’ve had from day one, even if Blizz keeps declining to make them comparably helpful for endgame raiding. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b19c9b/32.png) [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Words_on_the_Interweb)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6426 "2009-11-02T19:00:36Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Given repair costs, I, for one, am insanely happy that someone else did the dozens (hundreds?) of wipes and long hours of combat-log analysis to work out the strategies. Especially when the strats are weird crap like “shoot down that floaty thing to make an ice patch to kite that guy over when he goes underground and chases you” or “stand under the mushroom to shield yourself from this guy’s damage output when you fight him” or “if you get the fire on you, run over to that guy who’s poisoned so he doesn’t get paralysed”… I frequently wonder how people figure it out. It’s just as well I’m not on the cutting edge of progression; I’d get too annoyed at the “you die because you don’t know the boss is going to do an ice breath and you should hide behind your raid members who got turned into popsicles” type of things you’ll necessarily have to die to when first figuring out what a boss does. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6427 "2009-11-02T19:05:04Z")
Cutting-edge progression, I would assume, involves paying very careful attention to each and every buff and debuff you get when you get them, as well as going back over combat logs after each fight. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6428 "2009-11-02T19:10:09Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > BS+JC is godly for plate tanks, so I’d assume it’s similarly awesome for DPSers. Good luck switching over! I’ve thought about switching my main from Alch/Herb to BS/JC, but the time/cash involved is a little daunting, plus I’m a stubborn bitch who refuses to get rid of the profs I’ve had from day one, even if Blizz keeps declining to make them comparably helpful for endgame raiding. 😃 Well, the Mining certainly did help with the BS and I just didn’t unload the gems and spare ores/bars that I acquired in the process which does make for a great stepping stone to Jewelcrafting with minimal spending on mats that are not abundant in supply. Like my biggest hurdle right now looks to be acquiring 50 Citrine, which could run about 150-200g. I could easily mine for all the ore/bars with little to no effort…after all, I’m sitting on two 32 slot bags of saronite (one of ore, the other with bars)…worth enough gold to buy out most of the mats (about 1200g if sold to vendor) to cover for stuff that I can’t mine or the hard to come by stuff. I’ve got 40 of each Bloodstone, Chalcedony, Dark Jade, Huge Citrine, Shadow Crystal, Sun Crystal AND I have double digits of each highest level gems. I really only need the Scarlet Rubies, but you never know when what use they may have when Cataclysm comes out. So Mining has been great for me, but JC will become even better. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6429 "2009-11-02T19:13:44Z")
> [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](#): > > Especially when the strats are weird crap like “shoot down that floaty thing to make an ice patch to kite that guy over when he goes underground and chases you” Yeah, I think the five-mans are as deep into strategy as I’d care to go blind. (And even there, I’m not sure if I’d have been able to work out the “jump up and down while you fight the dragon” strategy). ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6430 "2009-11-02T19:44:01Z")
Has everyone seen the announcement of the new Northrend Fishing Tournament in the upcoming patch? > [@](#): > > Coming in patch 3.3.0, the esteemed tuskarr of the Kalu’ak are proud to introduce to Northrend the Kalu’ak Fishing Derby, a test of fishing skill with a healthy dash of luck! Every Wednesday beginning at 8 PM players can try to catch the elusive Blacktip Shark. Elder Clearwater sits in Dalaran for one hour awaiting the return of the quickest, most experienced fisher to bring him the first catch of the night. This champion fisher will be rewarded in-kind for his or her fishing expertise. Those who aren’t able to return with the first catch will still receive just reward for getting the Blacktip Shark to Elder Clearwater before he takes his leave. > > It is said that these sharks’ favorite meal are the bite-sized Pygmy Suckerfish. Perhaps a hook in their waters will do the trick. Because of the increased concentration of fish, you have an increased chance to catch a shark from fishing pools. Don’t forget, in patch 3.3.0 you never catch trash from fishing pools, regardless of skill. > > The derby winner will receive a substantial chunk of experience (or money at maximum level) and gain 5000 reputation with the Kalu’ak. In addition, the champion will be given a choice between two unique rewards: > > ``` > Dread Pirate Ring > Binds on Account > Unique-Equipped > Finger > +34 Stamina > Requires level 1 to 80 (80) > Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 53. > Equip: Improves hit rating by 29. > Equip: Experience gained from killing monsters and completing quests increased by 5%. > > Boots of the Bay > Binds When Picked Up > Feet > Requires Fishing (200) > Equip: Increased Fishing +15. > Use: Whisks you away to the finest drinking establishment in Booty Bay. (1 Day Cooldown) > > ``` > > To keep it interesting, the Achievement “Master Angler of Stranglethorn” has been changed to “Master Angler of Azeroth.” This can be earned by winning either the Kalu’ak Fishing Derby or the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza. > > Please bear in mind this feature will be undergoing testing on our Public Test Realms and is subject to change prior to the release of patch 3.3.0. I’m excited – I can almost never play on Sundays at 2 pm; this gives me an opportunity to actually participate and maybe get the achievement. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6431 "2009-11-02T19:56:30Z")
Ooh, the +5000 rep is nice. Too bad Muz has a fishing skill of 1; he’s about 6000 rep short of exalted right now, which probably means 4 weeks; I usually have about one day a week when I’m bored enough and have enough WoW time to get around to the Kaluak dailies. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6432 "2009-11-02T20:18:31Z")
Fruitful weekend. Took the plunge and dropped skinning for engineering since I have an alt who’s partway through skinning – I’m now having fun powerleveling it with mining runs through Silithus, and can’t wait to pick up the really fun recipes. (pets, target dummies, what have you) I also spent Sunday duoing my 41 enhance shaman with a frost mage friend. We blew through two levels in just one afternoon, which was awesome. I also got Stormstrike. 😃 😃 Dear good little dancing gods. With that plus the SS glyph, between the two of us, we were taking down mobs 6 levels above us. I think I’m in love. _tear_ ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6433 "2009-11-02T20:42:27Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > I also spent Sunday duoing my 41 enhance shaman with a frost mage friend. We blew through two levels in just one afternoon, which was awesome. I also got Stormstrike. 😃 😃 Dear good little dancing gods. With that plus the SS glyph, between the two of us, we were taking down mobs 6 levels above us. I think I’m in love. _tear_ Okay, stupid question. Don’t laugh at me please. 🙂 But this seems to be the best place to ask, since it’s probably not wise to admit to my high-end raiding guild that I don’t know the answer. I play blood elves. I have one of every class blood elves can be. My main is a mage, and my primary alt is a death knight. Blood elves can’t be shamans, so I don’t have a shaman. And try as I might, I simply don’t get the difference between an enhancement and an elemental shaman. it’s like I have a mental block. I get that resto shamans heal. But can somebody explain to me in words of one syllable what defines an enhancement and an elemental shaman? How do they differ, what kinds of weapons and stats do they value, etc? I’m really embarrassed that I don’t know this, and I want to fight my ignorance. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6434 "2009-11-02T20:46:43Z")
Enh shamans hit people with sticks. Ele shamans shoot lightning at people. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6435 "2009-11-02T20:54:53Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Enh shamans hit people with sticks. Ele shamans shoot lightning at people. Heh. Okay, so enhancement shamans are melee, and elemental shamans are casters? That makes sense. What do enhancement shamans enhance? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6436 "2009-11-02T21:00:35Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > Heh. Okay, so enhancement shamans are melee, and elemental shamans are casters? That makes sense. What do enhancement shamans enhance? Themselves, their weapons, their armor, their partymembers… ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6437 "2009-11-02T21:29:15Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Has everyone seen the announcement of the new Northrend Fishing Tournament in the upcoming patch? I heard, and I’m annoyed as hell, since it’s yet another fishing tournament at a bad time (this new one being smack-dab in the middle of a raid night). :smack: And of course, they put an actually useful reward on this one. (I.e., a BoA ring I’d actually send to an alt, versus my Hook of the Master Angler that just sits in my damn bank because I already have a fishing pole that gives me underwater breathing and a mount that goes faster in the water than the fish form does.) Whoops, do I sound bitter about how comparatively shitty the current STV fishing tourney rewards are? That’s prob’ly 'cause I am. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6438 "2009-11-02T21:31:32Z")
Oh, and **winterhawk11** , a good way to get a feel for the different specs of a class is to take a look at their talent trees. The [Wowhead talent calculator](http://www.wowhead.com/?talent) is rather useful for this. But yeah, for Shammies, Resto is healing, Ele is ranged DPS, and Enh is melee DPS. ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6439 "2009-11-02T21:35:25Z")
> [@Words\_on\_the\_Interweb](#): > > Especially when the strats are weird crap like “shoot down that floaty thing to make an ice patch to kite that guy over when he goes underground and chases you” or “stand under the mushroom to shield yourself from this guy’s damage output when you fight him” or “if you get the fire on you, run over to that guy who’s poisoned so he doesn’t get paralysed”… I frequently wonder how people figure it out. It’s just as well I’m not on the cutting edge of progression; I’d get too annoyed at the “you die because you don’t know the boss is going to do an ice breath and you should hide behind your raid members who got turned into popsicles” type of things you’ll necessarily have to die to when first figuring out what a boss does. In most cases, they figure it out on the public test realms where new content is released before it goes live. There are many, many examples of worldwide top end raiding guilds use the PTRs to learn the fights and then get world firsts on the same content when it goes live. The side effect is that the rest of us get strats for the fights. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6440 "2009-11-02T21:38:07Z")
So Skammer, I guess the alt instance run is going to be pushed back a quarter-hour once the new fishing tourney hits? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=321) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=323)