# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 334
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6661 "2009-11-11T12:07:37Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > OK, I guess I am totally weird for actually using all my weapon types every level and leveling each of them up as I go? Or I should amend I normally, do, this is the first toon I have had that I havent done that … as I am pushing to get to 80 and I am not grouping or raiding [in general, I think I have done 2 pugs so far] Druids are special cases. In cat and bear form you don’t level weapon skill **at all**. It’s not useful for druids, but I’m just going for the Master at Arms achievement. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6662 "2009-11-11T12:08:18Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Never mind. (Been writing that a LOT lately) 😉 > > So I’m gonna go check it out, but I’m not expecting much. Ad banners at the top of the screen? > > Q Runes of Magic is totally free, though you can buy diamonds to in game upgrades for stuff. Not bad, is a pretty decent EQ/WOW clone. Drawback being they separate the euro and US communities, so you can not play with a buddy in europe. I have a couple characters on Govinda, if you start up playing there I can give you some diamonds to get started with, there are some potions that boost xp and training points that are nice [though I had been using my doamonds for a spiffy unicorn mount and spiffy armor visuals] ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6663 "2009-11-11T12:11:13Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Same problem as **Mister Rik** and the same reaction too: Who else is gona name their character “Wolkenlaufer”? > > I got out. > > Q > > ETA: Do you think they somehow got a list of player names off Blizz and Turbine doesn’t want _any_ connection with Blizz (even the same user name) so they show that message? No idea … I always thought Aruvqan was pretty unique, and all of a sudden I cant get it as a log in screen name or email address for stuff I have never been involved in 😕☹ Someone on gmail has aruvqan … and it isnt me! so i had to default to an ancient dnd character name, so my new phones email addy is an ancient character name I havent played in almost 20 years … ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6664 "2009-11-11T12:15:19Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Just levelled da **Wolk’** to 55, and decided to see what was available to up his equipment a little. > > Well, when I looked at swords and armor , even though it would have increased armor, crit strike (and some other stuff- can’t remember now), it would have DECREASED strength, agility and stamina. > > Somehow that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, so I guess there must be secret “formula” that Blizz uses to figure that out, but my question is: is it a good rule of thumb, that if I see _anything_ redded out, to stay away from buying it? > > Also, we’re spending a lot of time in Winterspring looking for those relics, so at some point, do I need to buy some winter stuff, so he don’t freeze to death? > > Thanks > > Q > > ETA: Oh yeah, we did buy three flasks of major healing potion! 😉 Yes, red is bad, it means for some reason you can not use it. May be you are too low in level or it is not allowed for your racial/class type. There is a balance when upgrading armor and weapons … in general you are now at a level where upgrades can be a pain in the ass … sometimes you just can’t find anything that is an upgrade at all, and sometimes you have to take a negative hit to get an upgrade in some small part of the overall specs. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6665 "2009-11-11T14:36:42Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > OK, I guess I am totally weird for actually using all my weapon types every level and leveling each of them up as I go? Or I should amend I normally, do, this is the first toon I have had that I havent done that … as I am pushing to get to 80 and I am not grouping or raiding [in general, I think I have done 2 pugs so far] > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Druids are special cases. In cat and bear form you don’t level weapon skill **at all**. It’s not useful for druids, but I’m just going for the Master at Arms achievement. It’s hard for any casters, too, since we simply don’t use our weapons while fighting. I could have switched from mace to dagger to staff for every fight, I still wasn’t going to get any skill points by casting Renew or Mind Blast. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6666 "2009-11-11T15:57:18Z")
Burning Dog Legion reminder: classic dungeon run tonight, 8:30. My first choice is Dire Maul East but I’m open to suggestions. I realized today that we also need Blackrock Spire for the Classic Dungeon Master achievement, but I think UBRS takes a party of 10. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6667 "2009-11-11T16:33:36Z")
I just learned the most awesome thing ever. **You can buy uncut epic gems with Honor.** \*All \*of the current rank of epic gems are available for 10k Honor each. After a guild WG last night, I hit the 75k cap, and was looking for something to blow some of it on. I am \*\*never \*\*paying for another gem again! In fact, I think I might pick up that Hit trinket with Triumph badges and regem my DPS set… > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Okay, what’s **DXE** or do I not need to know that yet? Don’t need to know it yet (or maybe ever). DXE is Deus Vox Encounters–it’s a bossmod. Bossmods are addons that give you all sorts of alerts and timers for raid bosses. So, until you’re doing a raid, they do absolutely nothing for you. > [@lizardling](#): > > \It’s definitely a bit of a limitation – I generally don’t get to do the more coordination-intensive roles on first try, but it works for me. Are you able to set up your bossmod to use more screen flashes instead of alert noises? I never played around with DXE’s settings that way, but I seem to recall that the screen flash test used random colors, so it’s possible you could set different triggers to different flash colors. > [@](#): > > Is it possible to check the log mid-raid? Also, where does the file get saved to on your HD? You can check the log at any point–you just have to upload it. And uploading doesn’t take very long. As for where the log is located–there’s actually a subdirectory in your World of Warcraft folder called Logs. I can’t remember if it’s under one of the other main subfolders (e.g., WTF), but it shouldn’t be too hard to find. I think the file itself is something like combatlog.txt. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Now I really see why Blizzard didn’t go for ultra-realism I think its cartoonish style is one of the best decisions WoW’s designers ever made. It ages way, way better than any realistic graphics. > [@Bosstone](#): > > Actually, you can just hold the button and it’ll swing swing swing away. So, like, D2 style? > [@Bosstone](#): > > I was utterly baffled at this random person attacking my jousting opponent. Besides leveling weapon skill, they could also just be helping you out. While other mounted jousters can’t attack your target (with the exception of the Battle Before the Citadel quests), people on the ground can. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Do you think they somehow got a list of player names off Blizz and Turbine doesn’t want _any_ connection with Blizz (even the same user name) so they show that message? I think it’s almost all other players. Although I did try to name a Hunter pet MrCellpohane and it wouldn’t let me, because it was considered inappropriate (WTF?). > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Had to stop because I’m brewing tonight, and I don’t want to afk only to come back and find a tree killed me. Oooh, brewing what? Also, l2Shadowmeld. 😛 😃 > [@Bosstone](#): > > I know the Amphitheater isn’t as hard as an instance, but it was still really nice to know that no, I don’t actually suck as a healer. Maybe I was just having an off night when we tried AN, or maybe it wasn’t all my fault after all. IIRC, the gauntlet of adds and mini-bosses before the first boss of A-N is a huge pain in the ass, especially on Heroic. If you want to check out the spec, glyphs, and gear of a really good Resto Druid, search for Lifebloomqq on Borean Tundra. She consistently tops our healing charts, so she’s gotta be doing something right. 😃 And for info on what she’s actually casting, [here is our WoL page](http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/18804/). > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Well, when I looked at swords and armor , even though it would have increased armor, crit strike (and some other stuff- can’t remember now), it would have DECREASED strength, agility and stamina. > > Somehow that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, so I guess there must be secret “formula” that Blizz uses to figure that out, but my question is: is it a good rule of thumb, that if I see _anything_ redded out, to stay away from buying it? Upgrading your equipment is all about balancing stats and knowing what’s best for your class. For Wolkie, you want to prioritize \*\*Stamina \*\*and **Strength**. Some other stats can actually get kind of complicated–Blizzard is going to be doing away with a lot of the secondary stats when Cataclysm comes out. > [@](#): > > Also, we’re spending a lot of time in Winterspring looking for those relics, so at some point, do I need to buy some winter stuff, so he don’t freeze to death? Fortunately for players, the temperature of the zone never phases your character in the least. (Although I do feel guilty when I’m in something particularly revealing and my character’s running around with little puffs of frozen breath coming out of their mouth…) > [@Quasimodem](#): > > All I wanted to do was click on the guy 'cause I didn’t remember if I had the FP? > > Well! He and this lion lookin’ thing came after us and beat _the_ livin’ _shit_ out of me before I knew what was happening. That green bar just went ZOOP!, and I was a goner. Ah, clicking on the wrong Flight Master. Always good for a laugh. Poor Wolkie! (Oh, and the lion-lookin’ thing was probably a Wyvern.) At least you got a good kill in! Looks like you’re getting used to using all of your tools to stay alive (potions, Shield Wall, etc.). > [@aruvqan](#): > > OK, I guess I am totally weird for actually using all my weapon types every level and leveling each of them up as I go? Yes. Completely. 😃 Of course, I’m a Warrior, so leveling all my weapon types as I went would have been… time consuming, to say the least. > [@aruvqan](#): > > Yes, red is bad, it means for some reason you can not use it. May be you are too low in level or it is not allowed for your racial/class type. I think Quasi is talking about individual stats conning red, not equipment requirements. E.g., there’s less Agility on a piece, so that stat shows up red on whatever comparison he’s looking at. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6668 "2009-11-11T17:00:17Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Ah, clicking on the wrong Flight Master. Always good for a laugh. Poor Wolkie! (Oh, and the lion-lookin’ thing was probably a Wyvern.) > > You mean he really **was** somebody’s flymaster??? Dude, they were both REALLY pissed. We won’t be making that mistake again!😃 > > At least you got a good kill in! Looks like you’re getting used to using all of your tools to stay alive (potions, Shield Wall, etc.). > > I am! Especially after Berserker Rage and that CD thing! I just go right down the line clicking on everything I can (although sometimes I get nervous and click on something I can’t use right then, such as the daggers!:)) > I think Quasi is talking about individual stats conning red, not equipment requirements. E.g., there’s less Agility on a piece, so that stat shows up red on whatever comparison he’s looking at. > > Yeah, that’s what I meant. I just didn’t know if I should sacrifice strenth, aligity and crit for more armor etc. (can’t recall all the choices right now, but there were more greens than reds), so I chose discretion over dumbness and passed on those particular things. Thanks **SFG** and **a**! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6669 "2009-11-11T17:01:41Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Oooh, brewing what? Also, l2Shadowmeld. 😛 😃 **During** a fight with a tree? And changing races to do it? That’s a good trick - guess the griping about Alliance being easy mode wasn’t wrong. 😛 I was going afk during the fight to deal with temperature variation alarms going off, that kind of thing, not between any fights. I didn’t ever kill a grove walker in the process. At one point I ran from the fight and then after losing aggro I just popped into birdie form and lifted off a bit to get out of danger. (Dunkle Weiss, btw.) ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6670 "2009-11-11T17:07:38Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I just learned the most awesome thing ever. **You can buy uncut epic gems with Honor.** \*All \*of the current rank of epic gems are available for 10k Honor each. After a guild WG last night, I hit the 75k cap, and was looking for something to blow some of it on. I am \*\*never \*\*paying for another gem again! In fact, I think I might pick up that Hit trinket with Triumph badges and regem my DPS set… I did this same thing too, only learning about it a few weeks after it dropped. I kept spending hundreds on the gems in the AH until I heard guildies talking about buying gems after they won a Wintergrasp battle. Here was a recreation of that conversation: Guildie - I’m going to buy xxxx gems for my new xxxx piece of equipment. Me - Don’t put WG pvp gems into your pve xxxx gear. Guildie - No, I’m using my honor points to buy the pve epic gems. Me- !? How the hell can you do that? Guildie - You can trade your Wintergrasp shards and tokens for the bind-on-account +honor point item; then go to the Stormwind vendor and buy the uncut gems. Me - !!! I’ve been spending 200g a pop for my epic gems and I could use my honor points!? Where the hell is this vendor, when did this start? I need to know noooowww. Like you, **SFG]** I had maxed 75k honor and I also had nearly 1000 Stone Keeper’s shards and nearly 100 WG marks of honor. So within the next day I was fully gemmed with epics and had made quite a bit of money selling the leftovers. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6671 "2009-11-11T17:10:59Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > IIRC, the gauntlet of adds and mini-bosses before the first boss of A-N is a huge pain in the ass, especially on Heroic. If you want to check out the spec, glyphs, and gear of a really good Resto Druid, search for Lifebloomqq on Borean Tundra. She consistently tops our healing charts, so she’s gotta be doing something right. 😃 And for info on what she’s actually casting, [here is our WoL page](http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/18804/). Yeah, that first little gauntlet was where we got our asses kicked. It was a bad situation overall, and by the time I realized I needed to lean on Healing Touch more (no Nourish before 80, sadly) for burst healing, we were all already fed up. That log info is interesting, though. It looks like what I’d expect, aside from the complete lack of Lifebloom being used. Hmph, and after I worked up Grid to display Lifebloom duration front and center, too. 😛 Just toss on Rejuv and Regrowth, use Swiftmend and Nourish for spot healing. Nothing fancy, and that’s exactly what I’ve been reading all this time, too. Oh well. I’m just going to chalk it up to a bad night. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6672 "2009-11-11T17:35:21Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > **During** a fight with a tree? And changing races to do it? Well, okay, changing races won’t be do-able mid-combat. But Shadowmeld can be used in combat now! It will actually drop combat, unless you’re in an instance and there are other people in combat and still alive, in which case it will work as an aggro hide (not dump) for as long as you stay stealthed. It’s a godsend while leveling–pull to many mobs, just run away from their spawn point and Shadowmeld! > [@](#): > > Dunkle Weiss, btw. That sounds awesome. > [@Jbone](#): > > Me - !!! I’ve been spending 200g a pop for my epic gems and I could use my honor points!? Where the hell is this vendor, when did this start? I need to know noooowww. Seriously. I’ve probably spent a few thousand gold on gems by now. Ugh. And thank you for reminding me that you can trade WG marks for Honor! Even better. > [@Bosstone](#): > > I’m just going to chalk it up to a bad night. We all need those now and again–keeps us humble. Well, except me, 'cause I’m perfect in every conceivable way. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6673 "2009-11-11T17:47:32Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Well, except me, 'cause I’m perfect in every conceivable way. I definitely wouldn’t argue with that, except…well, you’re _Alliance_. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6674 "2009-11-11T18:51:31Z")
Kind of makes you question your choice of faction, doesn’t it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6675 "2009-11-11T19:41:31Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > OK, I guess I am totally weird for actually using all my weapon types every level and leveling each of them up as I go? I did this with my first paladin. I spotted the [Master of Arms] achievement early on and decided I wanted to go for it, so I kept 2-hand maces, 2-hand swords, 1-hand swords, and polearms leveled up as much as I could as I went along. That had the advantage of allowing me to use almost any 2-hand weapon I found that was an upgrade. It was also helpful when choosing quest rewards that were weapons - I didn’t have the problem of being shown a list of quest reward weapons, seeing, say, a polearm that was a major upgrade over the 2-hand sword I was carrying but being unable to use it. The only “weapon” I waited until 80 to level was “unarmed”. After I got [Master of Arms], I thought “what the heck” and decided to go for [Did Somebody Order a Knuckle Sandwich?] OTOH, once I got those achievements on that paladin, I stopped worrying about getting them on other toons. My draenei warrior is sticking with just 2-hand swords and 2-hand maces. Though I’ve been thinking about training her on 2-hand axes, cuz I’ve heard there are some good axes at high levels. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I think its cartoonish style is one of the best decisions WoW’s designers ever made. It ages way, way better than any realistic graphics. It also looks more “consistent” at different zoom levels. My WoW toons are still “recognizable” even when I zoom the camera way out. The DDO character I made, though, looks stunning when zoomed up close on the character creation screen, but all that detail just blurs away when zoomed out to “playing size”. > [@](#): > > Although I did try to name a Hunter pet MrCellpohane and it wouldn’t let me, because it was considered inappropriate (WTF?). Did you deliberately misspell “cellophane” in your post here (and in the pet name)? I suppose I can see the “pohane” maybe looking like a variation on “punani” … yah, I don’t really see it either. You wonder about their definition of “inappropriate”, especially when you run across a character named “Erektion” (as I did the other night). > [@](#): > > Ah, clicking on the wrong Flight Master. Always good for a laugh. Poor Wolkie! (Oh, and the lion-lookin’ thing was probably a Wyvern.) I did that myself not too long ago. My belf pally tried to catch a flight from the Alliance flightmaster at Thorium Point. My excuse was that I misremembered and thought the Thorium Point FP was neutral. But … Grrrr… there was a high-level belf killing the Alliance flightmaster at Gadgetzan last night, when I was there with my lvl 49 draenei warrior. Then standing there waiting for her to respawn, and killing her again. So she was dead when I was ready to leave. Waiting with me was a lvl 44 human paladin. I had to :rolleyes: at this other Horde player who was there - a lvl 42 undead rogue, _not_ flagged for PvP, standing there with the flagged high-level belf at his back, taunting us. Oo, aren’t you tough! They ran away when a lvl 80 Alliance player showed up. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6676 "2009-11-11T20:03:27Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Kind of makes you question your choice of faction, doesn’t it. 😃 Hey, I got my 80 Draenei. I done my time. 😉 Although it’d be kinda fun to level up a Gorilla-Arms Druid and race-change him over to Worgen when Cataclysm hits, if Blizzard allows that. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6677 "2009-11-11T20:18:30Z")
😃 Mmm, spacegoats. My baby enh shaman’s a male spacegoat. _I like big shoulders and I can not lie._ I’ve done the wrong FP thing a few times on the shaman, for sure. “Okay, Dalaran, hang a left from the north bank and head down the hill, let’s go!.. WAIT!” Or heading out the wrong side of Gadgetzan and screeching to a halt just short of getting my blue ass blown up. Oy. By coordination I meant stuff like what you said about coordinating taunts with the other tank when you hit X stacks of debuff Y; stuff that requires you to be able to talk effectively, not just “SFGwwwwwaaaaa456”. 😉 I definitely have been customizing DXE to use the flashies and counters, never fear. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6678 "2009-11-11T20:21:37Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Hey, I got my 80 Draenei. I done my time. 😉 Although it’d be kinda fun to level up a Gorilla-Arms Druid and race-change him over to Worgen when Cataclysm hits, if Blizzard allows that. I’m kind of eager for my Goblin Death Knight. “Time is money, friend!” ---
**Author:** ![Mekhazzio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Mekhazzio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mekhazzio)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6679 "2009-11-11T20:34:51Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Although it’d be kinda fun to level up a Gorilla-Arms Druid and race-change him over to Worgen when Cataclysm hits, if Blizzard allows that. They’re going to, but they’ve said that it may not be available for a while after the expansion. It’ll happen eventually, and I’m waiting for it too. I have no love for the blood elves. My paladin’s going to put on about 200 pounds and let her hair grow out… **everywhere** 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6680 "2009-11-11T21:16:22Z")
> [@Mekhazzio](#): > > They’re going to, but they’ve said that it may not be available for a while after the expansion. It’ll happen eventually, and I’m waiting for it too. I have no love for the blood elves. My paladin’s going to put on about 200 pounds and let her hair grow out… **everywhere** 😃 My BElf mage is going troll so fast it’ll make your head spin if they ever change the BElf silence racial. (Which is wussy compared to what those hippie NElves get, but anyway…) Not that I end up using it that much. Hmm. My husband’s 80 prot/holy pally is going tauren ASAP! He’s also going to make a troll druid when the expansion comes out. I’ll be making a goblin shaman. Even reserved the name - my husband often greets guildie loggers-in with “Hawaya” (How are ya), and I’ve commented that it sounds like a tauren name. Well, it works as a goblin name in my estimation, too. 😃 Oh, speaking of BElves and tauren - I was playing my tauren druid in a group composed otherwise of female BElves. We were all in Vent, and I looked at my groupmates and whimpered, "I feel faaaaaat! ☹ " 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=333) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=335)