# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 338
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6741 "2009-11-13T18:05:17Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > So close! Save your money, too, 'cause at level 60, you get to fly! (They keep nerfing the price, but I think it’s currently something like 225g for the training and 50g for the flying mount.) Can that flying mount still be a horse, **SFG**?🙂 Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6742 "2009-11-13T18:12:40Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Can that flying mount still be a horse, **SFG**? There actually \*\*is \*\*sort of a flying horse mount (it’s a bit demony, with flaming feet and all), but it only drops off of the Headless Horseman during Hallow’s End, and it’s a veeeeery rare drop. Alliance get gryphons as our standard flyers. In Patch 3.3, Arthas (presumably only in the raid) will have a very small chance to drop his horse Invincible, which will be a flying undead horse. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6743 "2009-11-13T18:16:25Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > In Patch 3.3, > > Arthas (presumably only in the raid) will have a very small chance to drop his horse Invincible, which will be a flying undead horse. WANT. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6744 "2009-11-13T18:29:18Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > WANT. Have you seen the model? It looks awesome. I think MMO Champion has it posted. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6745 "2009-11-13T23:32:27Z")
That’s good, right, since I’m pretty much solo, and a dungeon quest constitutes a _raid_? Plus I’ve picked some quests as drops which I wanna investigate… Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6746 "2009-11-14T00:11:21Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > WANT. Get in line. > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Have you seen the model? It looks awesome. I think MMO Champion has it posted. Nope, don’t need to see it to tell that is has +100 to your ipeen stat. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6747 "2009-11-14T01:54:30Z")
The rage thing, I mean.🙂 “Rage comes from being hit”… so here’s what I did: I had two more of those Icethistle Yeti to finish off for a quest, so we snuck up behind one, threw our ranged weapons let him come and then we “pulled” him and I just let **Wolkie** auto-attack. _See, I always thought you had to keep clicking on the stuff on your action bar like the thundeclap and devastate and all, to keep fighting…_ I then put my cursor over the monster’s health bar, and sat back and let 'em have at it. I watched our rage bar increase and the monster’s health bar decrease, but I never “helped out” with one of the action bar weapons, etc. unless I saw our health drop below 50%, (which it never did) or if I wanted to hurry things along a bit (exception would be if I were double-triple teamed, yes?). So _finally_ the penny drops and I’m already 39% on level 57. I got so good at doing that, that I even sat back, got a drink and a hunk of cheese out of the small dorm fridge next to the computer desk, checked how much currency I had, some other quests, etc., etc. (Haven’t had the courage to take a bio-break yet, though! :D) This must have been frustrating as hell for you poor guys, huh? Sorry! So? Have I “By George” got it, or not? 😉 Thanks Quasi ETA: I also watched as my rage bar acellerated to 100%… ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6748 "2009-11-14T03:18:03Z")
That sounds about right. Your autoattack does some damage, your special attacks on your action bar do a lot more and do other special stuff too. Those special attacks cost some of your Rage, but the autoattack doesn’t. And yes, getting hit will add Rage to your bar. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6749 "2009-11-14T05:28:17Z")
Just wanted to mention that I got Castariora, my [draenei warrior, to level 50](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/ootr09_castariora_hand.jpg) finally! She makes my 4th non-DK to reach 50. I loves me some Mortal Strike! That, in conjunction with my Juggernaut talent, is helping me mow down the opposition 😃 I’m afraid I’m not really understanding where to use her Slam ability, though. [Svelexi, my draenei mage](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/ootr08_svelexi_helmcloak.jpg), is closing in on 40. Fire! Heh-heh! Fire! ---
**Author:** ![Mekhazzio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Mekhazzio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mekhazzio)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6750 "2009-11-14T06:51:42Z")
Rage comes from being hit and from hitting things with your autoattack. You can then use that Rage to fuel special attacks (which is…everything else). If you don’t have enough Rage to use a particular special, you have to wait until you hit something or get hit enough, or you can use Bloodrage, which lets you cut yourself to get immediately pissed off 😃 As for Slam, it’s a Mortal Strike that does roughly the same damage, only costs half the rage, but also doesn’t have the healing debuff and can’t be used while moving. It’s the only attack with no cooldown at all, so it’s the fallback “I’m going to stand here and smash this thing over and over” ability. The catch is that you can’t autoattack while you’re winding up a Slam, so the talents in Arms and Fury that make Slam faster have a significant impact on how effective it is. With either of those talents, it’s a handy staple attack, but without, it’s largely useful just for quick bursts of damage - finishing something off without the huge rage cost of Execute, for instance. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6751 "2009-11-14T08:46:17Z")
Thanks,\*\* Mekhazzio\*\*! I iunderstand it a lot better now, and I also understand about the yellow and white numbers, because I am _relaxed_ now that I know I don’t have to click-click-click the action bar all the time - I can just watch my health bar as opposed to my poopnents’, and then just “step in” when we’re being double/triple teamed. Okay here’s a complaint: My quests are getting annoyingly boring, and I have several which are unfinished for this reason and the example below: I have just one relic fragment (#2) to go for the quest “Misery of Threl-kil” (?). It’s in Winterspring on that lake, anyay. Well, for two solid days now I have been killing those Suffering Highbones hoping that ONE of them will be the one to release that fragment on the lake, so that I can snatch it up with the hammer and complete my quest, but noooooo! It’s 3:30 Saturday morning, and I have been at this (not always in WS, though!;)) for 5 hours trying to level to 57, but I feel like WoW is FORCING me to grind in order to level up. Gee Whiz! I completed maybe two quests, and those were like 4 XP’s each one. I’m right now at 56% with **Wolkie** and that’s where I’m gonna stop. Also anyone know/remember who drops the Winterspring Firewater so that we can get some more? We HAD 6 vials and used them all. I guess we kinda got addicted to what their effects are: Increase attack power, and increase SIZE! 😉 They sure helped out when we’d get into a tight. Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6752 "2009-11-14T10:36:48Z")
The winter furbolgs - the white fuzzy bear guys - drop the firewater. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6753 "2009-11-14T11:16:49Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > Well, for two solid days now I have been killing those Suffering Highbones hoping that ONE of them will be the one to release that fragment on the lake, so that I can snatch it up with the hammer and complete my quest, but noooooo! It’s 3:30 Saturday morning, and I have been at this (not always in WS, though!;)) for 5 hours trying to level to 57, but I feel like WoW is FORCING me to grind in order to level up. Gee Whiz! I completed maybe two quests, and those were like 4 XP’s each one. It’s been a while since I did that quest, but I’m pretty sure you don’t need to kill any mobs, unless they’re in your way of course, you just use the pick you got on the snow piles(or whatever you want to call them) that are on the ice. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6754 "2009-11-14T12:40:10Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > The winter furbolgs - the white fuzzy bear guys - drop the firewater. **Awwwwww-Riiiiight, BROOMIE**! Our “enabler”! :D:D:D We on da way, _now_, Dude!😉 Thanks, my friend! One more thing: Are they found in Winterspring? **Mogle** : Well, I got three of them that way, but number 2 still eludes me and that green arrow just keeps pointing straight down at 3 yards. On the mini-map, its says, “Slay Suffering High Bones to acquire…” or something to that effect, and I took that to mean that you have to kill the RIGHT SHB in order to see that fragment? Anyway, thanks for for the help! Quasi ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6755 "2009-11-14T13:11:44Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > **Mogle** : Well, I got three of them that way, but number 2 still eludes me and that green arrow just keeps pointing straight down at 3 yards. On the mini-map, its says, “Slay Suffering High Bones to acquire…” or something to that effect, and I took that to mean that you have to kill the RIGHT SHB in order to see that fragment? Ok, I just tried it, and no, you don’t have to kill anything. You get the second fragment the same way you got the other three, in fact it was the first one I found. You can find it here: [map](http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/104/relickarta.jpg), [in-game](http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/842/relic1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6756 "2009-11-14T13:25:19Z")
**Mogle** , Those twirling stars around the fragment don’t appear for me there, where you were, as they did on the other three. I have STOOD on top of that thing and tried to hammer down into it, but nothing happens. It’s like someone’s just been there, taken it, and it has not re-generated. Only thing is, I was the only **on** that lake this morning at 2:00 am. _scratches head_ Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6757 "2009-11-14T13:32:04Z")
**Quasi** , those fragments don’t despawn, as long as you are on the quest and don’t have the fragment already, you should be able to interact with it regardless what anyone else just did. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6758 "2009-11-14T13:37:59Z")
I thought not, but I’m at a loss to explain why, if I’m within 1 yard of that thing, I get a green arrow pointing straight down, go to it on the ice (that blue glob), but yet it doesn’t behave as all the other fragments have, i.e. the swirling stars. **That’s** how I knew all the others were available for mining. Weird… I thought it was just the game, making it more difficult to get that last quest item. But thanks for taking the trouble to help me out. I’m headed back there now. 🙂 Q ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6759 "2009-11-14T13:44:20Z")
No problem, but before you head out there make sure that you really don’t have it, ie check your quest log to see if you got credit for fragment. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2009, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6760 "2009-11-14T14:10:55Z")
I have it _now_.:smack: Could be I was in the wrong part of the lake, **Mogle** , but why would I get the green down-pointing arrow telling me I within 1 yard of frag 2? That same thing has happened to me on other quests: I come up on the arrow, and I think “well, you just have to wait on the right monster to come along, kill him and make him drop it”, but I have NEVER been able to figure that out. I’ll be near a tree and that arrow will be there, and I go “Uh-huh. So where IS it?” There’s GOT to be something I’m not getting about this green arrow stuff. Thanks Q [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=337) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=339)