# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 346
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6901 "2009-11-18T19:47:01Z")
Gratz martu! That should really be a Feat of Strength. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6902 "2009-11-18T19:47:54Z")
> [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](#): > > Is anyone else here from Draenor? Nope. I’m from Earth. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6903 "2009-11-18T20:06:19Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Gratz all round it has been a while since my last post due to a real life achievement, First Born Son! Woohoo! Congratulations. And good luck squeezing in a little WoW time now and again–I’ve got another friend with a young baby who still tries to game a bit, and it’s challenging. > [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](#): > > Hey folks! I haven’t posted in this thread before, so I’ll introduce myself. Welcome to the WoW thread! Please abandon any hopes of reading through everything that came before. 😃 > [@](#): > > Is anyone else here from Draenor? Not I. My main and several of my alts are on Borean Tundra. I have most of my other alts on Eldre’Thalas (my main’s original home), as well as an alt and a farmer in the SDMB guild on Cairne (Burning Dog Legion, if you’re interested in rolling an alt there). > [@jayjay](#): > > If Blizzard had come up with that, they’d have called it “Brother, Can You Spare Some Time?” :smack:😃 ---
**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6904 "2009-11-18T20:08:53Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Not I. My main and several of my alts are on Borean Tundra. I have most of my other alts on Eldre’Thalas (my main’s original home), as well as an alt and a farmer in the SDMB guild on Cairne (Burning Dog Legion, if you’re interested in rolling an alt there). I might roll an alt there sometime. I’d probably roll a DK to cut down on the leveling. Is it Alliance or Horde? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6905 "2009-11-18T20:12:24Z")
> [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](#): > > I might roll an alt there sometime. I’d probably roll a DK to cut down on the leveling. Is it Alliance or Horde? Whoops, sorry, that would be helpful to know, wouldn’t it? It’s Horde. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6906 "2009-11-18T20:12:49Z")
Horde! ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6907 "2009-11-18T20:13:18Z")
> [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](#): > > I might roll an alt there sometime. I’d probably roll a DK to cut down on the leveling. Is it Alliance or Horde? Horde. Random thought: “Sir, would you like to make a donation?” “What’s the charity?” “It’s FOR THE HORDE!” ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6908 "2009-11-18T20:15:38Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > The first one I ever got came out of a Sagefish school near Tarren Mill. I’ve found the manual on several toons, only one of which was found in Outland. Got mine out of the schools around Southshore. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6909 "2009-11-18T20:16:32Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Random thought: > > “Sir, would you like to make a donation?” > “What’s the charity?” > “It’s FOR THE HORDE!” Is there no peonage?! Are there no orphanages?! ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6910 "2009-11-18T20:17:30Z")
I really regret asking questions sometimes. :smack: One of our GMs has hinted for a while that guild changes would be coming. It’s been positioned as positive changes, so I wasn’t overly concerned about it. But since it has been a while and I know the officers and GMs had a big palaver last weekend in vent, I thought I’d ask if they could share any information. The thread sat for a few days an one of our most outspoken members charged in an mostly started making demands that the GMs tell us what the changes are. This in turn got a response from another member (brother of one of the GMs) and another post from me explaining that _I_ wasn’t demanding anything. I just wanted to know what the changes might be so I can decide about whether I want to take a break from raiding or not. I know what the rules are now and what I lose by taking some raid time off. But if the rules change, I may decide to not take much time off to preserve my position. In most ways I don’t care what the rules are, I just want to know what they are and how they will affect me. No more, no less. No inquisition, no hard feelings or anger. A few more contentious posts followed mine. I’m not looking forward to whatever comes next. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f14d63/32.png) [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/My_Darn_Snake_Legs)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6911 "2009-11-18T20:18:09Z")
Cool. I’ve never rolled anything serious on the horde side before. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6912 "2009-11-18T20:22:16Z")
**tacoloco** , the fault lies with the GM/officers for not making any information available. You did nothing wrong by sensibly requesting any updates they had. It takes all of two seconds for them to say, “Sorry, guys, we’re still hashing things out, and we don’t want to confuse the matter by giving you conflicting information until we make a final decision.” ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6913 "2009-11-18T20:34:01Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Gratz all round it has been a while since my last post due to a real life achievement, First Born Son! As such my wow has been sporadic to say the least so I am taking the opportunity to level BS (323 now), cooking and fishing. Perfect for very tired people little thought required. Gratz Martu! My wife and I had our 2nd back in May. I’ve managed to train my body to function on little sleep…about 4-5 hours a night. You’ll find a rhythm in a few months. > [@My\_Darn\_Snake\_Legs](#): > > Hey folks! I haven’t posted in this thread before, so I’ll introduce myself. Welcome to the thread my friend. > [@](#): > > I ran Ony and ToC10 last night for the first time (with my hunter), and it was really fun. We ripped it up without any real problems, and I got a gun and a helm from Ony and some new bracers from the ToC10. This got my thinking about my 10 man Ony the other day. We were on phase 2 and happened to all be stacked up near the west whelp eggs and the big add came in. He came running down and stopped like he didn’t have an aggro targetwas waiting to find a target, but then the warrior tanked charged in. This got me thinking…Does the big add auto aggro the group right away or will he just stand there if no one is in range? I might have to test this sometimes unless someone had already tried. > [@](#): > > Is anyone else here from Draenor? Borean Tundra here. ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6914 "2009-11-18T20:40:58Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > **tacoloco** , the fault lies with the GM/officers for not making any information available. You did nothing wrong by sensibly requesting any updates they had. It takes all of two seconds for them to say, “Sorry, guys, we’re still hashing things out, and we don’t want to confuse the matter by giving you conflicting information until we make a final decision.” Agreed. It was a sensible request, but will still probably blow up in your face. :eek: You all probably are familiar with my stance on things so I would just say “hey, I’m taking some time off from raiding, bbl” I guess just keep us posted! ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6915 "2009-11-18T20:54:37Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > **tacoloco** , the fault lies with the GM/officers for not making any information available. You did nothing wrong by sensibly requesting any updates they had. It takes all of two seconds for them to say, “Sorry, guys, we’re still hashing things out, and we don’t want to confuse the matter by giving you conflicting information until we make a final decision.” I feel bad for the drama that is going to ensue. But I feel worse due to some of the comments made by the GM’s brother. Paraphrased it was that there should be reprecussion for people who take a month off before ICC because he wasn’t going to grind Ulduar only to lose a major upgrade to someone who hasn’t raided for a month. In principle, I agree. But just because someone has more time or desire to raid in the final month before ICC is released doesn’t make them more valuable or more deserving than the people who did the hard work on the content that is now farm content. Plus it’s ironic that a guy who has had a spotty attendance record until recently is QQing about the possibility of losing some piece of loot in ICC. He’s also the guy who’s be bitching a lot in raids about performance. Probably half the raid are new recruits most of which don’t have the experience in LK raids that the rest of us do and are not geared out like our regular raiders are. I expect raid performance to be down until all the new people get completely geared up and completely comfortable with the fights. Jbone, I’ve found your way of thinking about some things very helpful. It really is MY $15. Nobody else should dictate how I get to enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6916 "2009-11-18T20:54:55Z")
Just puttering around the Forum … Dear God. Is this thread REALLY 139 pages long? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6917 "2009-11-18T21:04:01Z")
> [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > Just puttering around the Forum … > > Dear God. Is this thread REALLY 139 pages long? The longest thread on the boards, and it’s ALL MINE!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6918 "2009-11-18T21:11:13Z")
> [@Jbone](#): > > Does the big add auto aggro the group right away or will he just stand there if no one is in range? I might have to test this sometimes unless someone had already tried. It can’t possibly be that easy (i.e. that you could just ignore them). If nothing else, they’d eat the face off of whatever healer or DPS was unlucky/stupid enough to aggro them later in the fight. > [@Ellen\_Cherry](#): > > Dear God. Is this thread REALLY 139 pages long? Shamefully, yes. (For a laugh, go look at the OP’s comment about why he started a new thread.) ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6919 "2009-11-18T21:11:36Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Jbone, I’ve found your way of thinking about some things very helpful. It really is MY $15. Nobody else should dictate how I get to enjoy it. Another soon-to-be-convert. Soon my armies will be ready to invade the overworld! Muahahaha! > [@jayjay](#): > > The longest thread on the boards, and it’s ALL MINE!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Did you get an achievement? How many points is it worth? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6920 "2009-11-18T21:14:37Z")
> [@Jbone](#): > > Did you get an achievement? How many points is it worth? 😃 +15 E-Peen [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=345) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=347)