# World of Warcraft General Discussion

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6921 "2009-11-18T21:19:08Z")

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[quote=“Shot\_From\_Guns, post:6918, topic:488294”]

It can’t possibly be that easy (i.e. that you could just ignore them). If nothing else, they’d eat the face off of whatever healer or DPS was unlucky/stupid enough to aggro them later in the fight.

yeah, probably just wishful thinking. Even if it was possible that they didn’t aggro, ranged dps would have to run past to get her if she flew to that side.  
Just some wishful thinking.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6922 "2009-11-18T21:19:18Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> +15 E-Peen

In your case, e-gina.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6923 "2009-11-18T21:22:37Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> In your case, e-gina.

How sexist!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6924 "2009-11-18T21:27:58Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Shamefully, yes. (For a laugh, go look at the OP’s comment about why he started a new thread.)

I do feel kind of bad. If I’d left well enough alone, the longest thread on the boards would belong to **Quasi**.

> [@Jbone](#):
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> Did you get an achievement? How many points is it worth? 😃

jayjay has earned the achievement “WelcometoAzerothmonhaveaniceday”

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6925 "2009-11-18T21:34:30Z")

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> [@Jbone](#):
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> yeah, probably just wishful thinking. Even if it was possible that they didn’t aggro, ranged dps would have to run past to get her if she flew to that side.

The adds really aren’t all that bad–just make sure nobody but the tank is in front of them and that somebody disarms them when they do their flaming weapon thing. During ph2, all ranged should stay on Ony, and all melee should go to deal with the big adds. Ony tanks gets on big guys, and whelp tank(s) stay stacked in the middle with the ranged and healers.

> [@tacoloco](#):
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> In your case, e-gina.

Nope. Everybody gets E-Peen. That way, we can wave them around, compare them, smack people with them. Kind of hard to do that with E-Gina.

> [@jayjay](#):
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> I do feel kind of bad. If I’d left well enough alone, the longest thread on the boards would belong to **Quasi**.

Gasp! Zounds! Thread thievery! 😃

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**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6926 "2009-11-18T21:51:26Z")

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Whee, another BT’er! I keep my main and alts on there, and I have a baby shaman on Feathermoon-A.

Has anyone read ["You Awaken in Razor Hill"](http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20677329926&sid=1)yet? If you haven’t, YOU NEED TO. 37 pages of sheer, staggering awesome. WoW meets Zork meets… well, THAT’S a secret! 😃

Grats to \*\*Martu \*\*on his Lvl 1 Human! 😃

I’ve been fishing and engineering like a mofo when I’m on, so now I’m at four hundred forty six skill in engineering. It makes the baby Thrall cry when you look at the mats for the orange goggles that include a Frozen Orb, 8 titanium bars, Heavy Borean Leather…and then realize that even disenchanting you’d only get a pittance back.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6927 "2009-11-18T22:11:54Z")

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Ahahahahaha! So here’s the full run-down on what happened last night, in case anybody enjoys laughing about stupid guild drama as much as I do:

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> [Guy with the Alg25 key] and [friend] were kicked because [friend] was unable to stay online and we were going to do Alg 25 without her, [key guy] refused to open the Alg door unless we rescheduled for whenever [friend] could come, so they were removed.
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> [Officer] and [brother] have been trying to get [other officer] demoted or removed so [brother] could take his place, when [GM] obtained proof that this was true they saw the jig was up and quit.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6928 "2009-11-18T22:17:33Z")

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What BDL lacks in terms of raiding experience we make up for in lack of drama, that’s for sure.

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**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6929 "2009-11-18T22:22:26Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Ahahahahaha! So here’s the full run-down on what happened last night, in case anybody enjoys laughing about stupid guild drama as much as I do:

Juicy! It’s always fun to be an outsider looking in.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6930 "2009-11-18T22:32:09Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> What BDL lacks in terms of raiding experience we make up for in lack of drama, that’s for sure.

That sounds like a challenge to me! 😃

Speaking of guild drama, apparently I’d missed out on some back in my old guild on ET. A guy who’s been in and out of the guild for years (because the GM kept violating her own “no re-invites” rule), who also cleared out the gbank not one, not two, but three times in recent memory after “being hacked” (doubts are had), took the cake a few days ago by raiding while either drunk or high (possibly on heroin). As the tank. After whining until they brought him in. Escapades included running down the wrong side of the tunnel and taking a wrong turn on the way back to Hodir after a wipe, despite people saying about fifty times “stay left,” killing not only himself but several other people who were on their way back into the room.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6931 "2009-11-18T22:35:27Z")

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Woo, I get to put “the Astral Walker” after my name as of last night! 😃 Server second Algalon-25 kill (our guild had the server first too, but I wasn’t in on it, sadly.)

Currently trying to decide what to do with myself, though. My guild is great and going like gangbusters, but they’ve got too many good raiders and I’m having to sit out more than I’d like to. Trying to decide if it’s worth my while to jump servers and join another guild that’s at the same progression level but has fewer raiders and thus more available spots. I’ve only got two months worth of history with this guild (though I know some of the members from way back), but leaving some of my friends won’t be easy. Moving guilds on the same server isn’t an option, since there isn’t another guild that’s even close to us.

Anybody done this? If so, how did it work out for you?

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6932 "2009-11-18T22:38:22Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> What BDL lacks in terms of raiding experience we make up for in lack of drama, that’s for sure.

I think currently the biggest drama in BDL is that the gbank is simply too full. I intend to remedy that once I decide on a crafting profession for Nahren, though.

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**Author:** ![shinto46](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@shinto46](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shinto46)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6933 "2009-11-18T22:38:54Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> That sounds like a challenge to me! 😃
> 
> Speaking of guild drama, apparently I’d missed out on some back in my old guild on ET. A guy who’s been in and out of the guild for years (because the GM kept violating her own “no re-invites” rule), who also cleared out the gbank not one, not two, but three times in recent memory after “being hacked” (doubts are had), took the cake a few days ago by raiding while either drunk or high (possibly on heroin). As the tank. After whining until they brought him in. Escapades included running down the wrong side of the tunnel and taking a wrong turn on the way back to Hodir after a wipe, despite people saying about fifty times “stay left,” killing not only himself but several other people who were on their way back into the room.

:dubious: Why have the rule if she doesn’t follow it herself?

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6934 "2009-11-18T22:48:48Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> I think currently the biggest drama in BDL is that the gbank is simply too full. I intend to remedy that once I decide on a crafting profession for Nahren, though.

Fairly soon I plan on using Kene to d/e all the green 70+ gear in the gbank and replacing them with the resulting mats. Then anyone in the guild who wants an enchant (or imbued cloth for your own bag) will be able to get mats from the gbank.

I’ll leave the lower-level greens, and blues for levelers. I’d also like to sell off a bunch of the white stuff we have too many of (especially various foodstuffs) and put the money back in the guild bank. Is there a limit on how many tabs you can have?

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6935 "2009-11-18T22:50:26Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Is there a limit on how many tabs you can have?

Five or six. I think it’s five.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6936 "2009-11-18T22:58:44Z")

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We have four, maybe we should look into getting another. Although why a guild as small as we are should need five tabs, I’m not sure.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6937 "2009-11-18T23:01:39Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> I’m confused. Are you responding to me or using me as a jumpoff to respond to **Jbone**?

I’m not sure but I suspect I was using you to respond to Jbone. Unless you have a problem with raidframes addons as well.

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**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6938 "2009-11-18T23:04:17Z")

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> [@winterhawk11](#):
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> Anybody done this? If so, how did it work out for you?

I’ll try to refrain from my whole “play the game how you want to play” perspective.

It sounds like you’re borderline either way if you are looking for success stories from others. Look at what you got now, a good guild, a chance to raid in end-game content, you can only move up from where you are now.  
If you switch somewhere else, you’ll basically have to start from 0 and move up. You should do some homework and ask around a bit. Log into an alt or something an approach another guild and say that you’re doing xxx content with someone else and are looking for more of xxxx.

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**Author:** ![Mekhazzio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@Mekhazzio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mekhazzio)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6939 "2009-11-18T23:05:26Z")

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Ony’s lair warders appear about halfway up the tunnel into her cavern, and start out already in combat. Without intervention, they’ll go after whoever’s generating the most nontargetted aggro…meaning, your healers. Or, if noone is healing, that poor mage that’s channeling Evocation.

However, do not try to intercept them in that tunnel. If Ony thinks you’re trying to run for it, you’ll wind up extra-tasty-crispy.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/6940 "2009-11-18T23:10:30Z")

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> [@Jbone](#):
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> I’ll try to refrain from my whole “play the game how you want to play” perspective.
> 
> It sounds like you’re borderline either way if you are looking for success stories from others. Look at what you got now, a good guild, a chance to raid in end-game content, you can only move up from where you are now.  
> If you switch somewhere else, you’ll basically have to start from 0 and move up. You should do some homework and ask around a bit. Log into an alt or something an approach another guild and say that you’re doing xxx content with someone else and are looking for more of xxxx.

Yeah, I did that. I am somewhat borderline, but leaning toward leaving at this point. I have absolutely no problem with my current guild–except for the fact that they’re continuing to recruit, they’re moving up in the world ranks and want to continue to do so, and increasingly they haven’t had a place for me in raids. Other than that they’re great folks and I like them–but I play this game to raid, not to hang around doing dailies, collecting DKP, and hoping to get into a spot. I do get in eventually, of course, but I like progression raiding. My former guild was top on the server during BC and I participated in many server firsts–this guild is top now but they’ve gotten a lot choosier about who they take to non-farm stuff. As they continue to leapfrog some of their existing members with new folks who are better geared from other servers, I just don’t see the problem improving anytime soon (and I see it having the potential to get worse when 3.3 comes out, especially with the limited number of attempts on bosses that are initially going to be in place). So it seems to me that if I _am_ going to make a move, this would be the optimal time to do it.

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