# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 357
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7121 "2009-11-24T18:50:51Z")
Forgot to add: I happened to be carrying Baby Spice when I twice encountered mammoths blocking holiday vendors/questgivers, so I hit them with the spice, they shrunk … and immediately returned to normal size. Geez, what good is the Baby Spice if the “recipient” can just right-click the effect away? At least the addition of more mailboxes in the capitals has taken away the fun of parking mammoths on them. I haven’t seen anybody doing that since the new boxes went in. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7122 "2009-11-24T19:19:43Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Yeah, that didn’t happen. Grumble. If you get locked out again, you can go to your config.wtf file in the WTF folder and just erase the REALM setting and Save the config file again. WoW should then open with the server assignment dialogue boxes. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7123 "2009-11-24T19:36:24Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > If you get locked out again, you can go to your config.wtf file in the WTF folder and just erase the REALM setting and Save the config file again. WoW should then open with the server assignment dialogue boxes. Did that in post [7102](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11812589&postcount=7102). Didn’t work, and by then it was late enough that I didn’t want to bother much with it any more. Plus I hate wasting authentication codes on failed logins. Edit: Or, well, I didn’t erase the config line, just replaced the server name. Still, I ran into the same brick wall. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7124 "2009-11-24T19:40:09Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Did that in post [7102](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11812589&postcount=7102). Didn’t work, and by then it was late enough that I didn’t want to bother much with it any more. Plus I hate wasting authentication codes on failed logins. > > Edit: Or, well, I didn’t erase the config line, just replaced the server name. Still, I ran into the same brick wall. Sorry! Missed that…not actually being able to play makes this thread seem so abstract. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7125 "2009-11-24T20:00:46Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > We have one designated member for every profession who gets their respective recipes first. We only start selling recipes, AFAIK, when no one else needs or wants them. You lose a bit of money, but it makes it much easier for anyone who wants something crafted, because you don’t have to hope that the one person with the combine is online, doesn’t have money or internet problems, doesn’t quit the guild, doesn’t transfer server or faction… I would be fine with that system as well as it is, we had some cloth caster bracer (bejeweled something) recipe drop three times before it went to someone who is on even semiregularly. > [@](#): > > An upgrade is an upgrade. You can’t always be waiting for your BiS and passing up everything else, IMO. > … > YMMV, but I use my offspec frequently while raiding, as do several of my guildmates. Most of us are hybrids, but we even have some pure DPS who will switch specs depending on what will be most useful. I’m still in Prot for the majority of the time, but I’m in Arms often enough that it would be a severe detriment to the raid if I were still in, say, Naxx gear. I hear you and maybe there is a better formulation out there but I have a deep suspicion that the way we are treating BOE items is suboptimal. Thinking about it again I would save it and let any full time raiders bid on it for their main spec if noone at the raid needed it for their main spec and THEN let it go to offspecs. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7126 "2009-11-24T20:02:31Z")
Regarding blocked npc’s, under Keybindings -\> Targeting Functions there is an “Interact With Target”-command which allows you to interact with the npc even if you can’t click on it. In order to target the npc you can either use /target \ or use Show Friendly Name Plates which I think is bound to shift-v by default. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7127 "2009-11-24T20:48:04Z")
> [@Mogle](#): > > Regarding blocked npc’s, under Keybindings -\> Targeting Functions there is an “Interact With Target”-command which allows you to interact with the npc even if you can’t click on it. In order to target the npc you can either use /target \ or use Show Friendly Name Plates which I think is bound to shift-v by default. That “Interact With Target” command sounds worth investigating. I know about the Shift-V, but in the case of the holiday vendor there were so many players crowded around her, and just enough movement, that Shift-V simply got me a swirling sea of nameplates, in which it was nearly impossible to click the one I wanted because it was bouncing all over the place. ETA: On the plus side, I did discover that those large barrels around the vendor also function as vendors themselves. And they’re easier to click on in a crowd. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7128 "2009-11-24T20:53:48Z")
Oh for the love of … all the servers that were down last night just went down again! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7129 "2009-11-24T21:02:29Z")
_starting to feel not that bad about not being able to play…_ ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7130 "2009-11-24T21:22:25Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Oh for the love of … all the servers that were down last night just went down again! :mad: Wow, I can imagine the furor on the messageboards… ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7131 "2009-11-24T21:28:36Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Oh for the love of … all the servers that were down last night just went down again! :mad: I had “lucked out” last night with the down times. I had every intention of trying to find a raid for my non-licked ToC 10 man and I had laid down with my daughter at around 8pm, to help her fall asleep. I swear I was only down for 5 minutes, but I woke up at 1:30am. I jumped on WoW, hoping to knock out the daily heroic and found most of my servers down. I played on my Coilfang rogue a bit and went back to bed. I hope it’s all fixed before I get on tonight. Now that I am caught up on sleep, I’m thinking a late-night gaming spree is in order. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7132 "2009-11-24T21:34:48Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Wow, I can imagine the furor on the messageboards… I was there last night. From the sound of things, the problem is a server farm in Seattle. Though it seems kind of weird that Lightbringer, a Pacific Time realm, and Cairne, a Central Time realm, would both be tied to Seattle. Maybe it’s the _battlegroup_ servers that are in Seattle - apparently all the downed realms belong to the same two battlegroups, Emberstorm and the other that I can’t remember. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7133 "2009-11-24T22:12:08Z")
Update: Servers are back up. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7134 "2009-11-24T22:15:10Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I was there last night. From the sound of things, the problem is a server farm in Seattle. Though it seems kind of weird that Lightbringer, a Pacific Time realm, and Cairne, a Central Time realm, would both be tied to Seattle. I can’t cite anything, but these days I get the impression that internet speeds are fast enough that the physical location of a server is no longer a concern for achieving low latency, especially when you’re dealing with an MMORPG as opposed to an FPS or something twitchier. The only benefit in establishing a time zone for a server is to make it easier to coordinate things between players, so that 8 pm on the server is 8 pm for the players. Where the server actually is doesn’t really matter. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7135 "2009-11-25T04:45:44Z")
Unbelievable, Emberstorm battlegroup just went down _again_. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7136 "2009-11-25T05:11:00Z")
Sigh. I was working on the Pilgrim’s Peril on my 80 pally tonight. Did TB first. Walked up to a table, flagged and everything, switched into my pilgrim clothes, and sat down. Got back up, put my armor on, and walked away. All without any of the numerous Hordies there batting an eye or raising a hand to me. Org was next. Rode right up to a table without getting flagged, put on pilgrim outfit, sat down, got up, rode away. Piece of cake! Then came UC. Holy fuck. The 2,000 blood elves around the tables around the tables pretty much insta-killed me. I gave up after three tries. I decided to try Silvermoon next. I figured since all the belves were in UC, SM should be pretty much undefended. But then I remembered, "Oh yeah, I was going to hit Scholomance and try to farm up the [Helm of Valor](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=16731) for my warrior. So I galloped on over there and tried the door, and that’s when the server went down. :mad: again I think it’s time for Blizzard to fire the server farm facility. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7137 "2009-11-25T05:14:12Z")
LOL - I just tried to visit the WoW forum, and got a “Server Error”. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7138 "2009-11-25T08:03:37Z")
Disclaimer: What follows is the writing of a pig. So tonight, with Cairne down, I finally got to choose a different server. I figured what the hell, I started a random Draenei Warrior on Zangarmarsh. And I figured double what the hell, this is just to pass the time, so I made it my first female character. I was running around doing the Crash Site quests when I realized that I didn’t actually have any chest armor. Just a Recruit’s Shirt. And what the hell, I was just goofing around, so my Warrior wound up fighting the group of Blood Elves near the crash site topless. 🆒 I was quite sad when I finally got the chest armor quest reward and had to suit up. …Of course, WoW being what it is, she’s got more defined cleavage wearing the armor than without. Still, goofing around on a new character isn’t really enough. I’m going to be out of town tomorrow through Friday for Thanksgiving, so I won’t be able to play until I get home. Having to go without last night and tonight leaves a bitter taste. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7139 "2009-11-25T17:03:44Z")
Oh, man, am I gonna be the one that kills this thread? That post sounded funnier when I was half-asleep, I swear. :o ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2009, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7140 "2009-11-25T17:15:12Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Oh, man, am I gonna be the one that kills this thread? That post sounded funnier when I was half-asleep, I swear. :o Heh - you won’t kill the thread. In fact, almost everything you wrote applies to me as well… when the server went down I rolled a Dranei female priest and spent way too much time thinking “this is a lot more fun than looking at Tauren ass”. And thinking “how in the hell can one have fun levelling as a priest???”. I died more in 9 levels with her than I did in 80 levels on my hunter. Pulled two mobs? Run or die. Pulled a mob with less than 50% mana? Run or die. Actually manage to kill a mob or two? Stop and drink a bit. Oh, you forgot water? Run back to a vendor or wait for the painfully slow regen. Finally got a wand quest reward so maybe that will help with the whole “killing things” part. Also, can’t play for the holidays so the down-time was particularly ill placed in my opinion. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=356) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=358)