# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 363
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7241 "2009-11-30T20:29:03Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I played Keliraeda pretty much all day yesterday, from around 2:00PM to midnight (with breaks). I’d planned to completely finish the process of following the TourGuide leveling guide all the way through Outland before heading to NR, but when I hit 70 I changed my mind. I was 62% through the Netherstorm guide, and still had Shadowmoon to go. So I hit 70, finished/turned in the quests I already had, then headed for NR. I ended up dumping a crapload of Outland herbs and leather on Chimtahna, who is now Keli’s bank alt (and looks really sharp in his tuxedo). Lots of stuff I had been waiting to build full stacks of before auctioning. I decided to start her in Howling Fjord (only visited Warsong Hold to see the Artisan Riding trainer, where I discovered the price of that _didn’t_ go down along with the other riding prices, so that’s going to have to wait), and really had a ball with the starting quests at Vengeance Landing. My own approach last time I leveled through the 70s was to do the Vengeance Landing quests, then switch over to Borean Tundra and get all the Nexus quests in Coldarra as soon as possible. The four blues you get from those quests are NICE, even if killing the dragon can be a pain if you draw a bad PuG. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7242 "2009-11-30T20:35:22Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > This holiday brought me to the conclusion that Blizzard ought to do something to make the draenei and blood elf starting zones/capitals more easily accessible to players of the appropriate faction. They’re pretty inaccessable for _everybody_. Especially the Exo–at least SM has a goddamn instant teleportation orb to UC. But they’re both ghost towns. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > A lot of times there is a large _area_ where you can find what you need, and QH just points you to the _center_ of that area. You still have to search the area. In those kinds of situations, **Quasi** , what you want to do is pop up your full map (hit “M”), put your mouse on top of the little circle or square that marks what you’re supposed to be killing or collecting, and then look for the area that lights up (usually shaded blue or red). That tells you that the mobs or the items can be found anywhere in the highlighted areas. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7243 "2009-11-30T20:50:43Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > They’re pretty inaccessable for _everybody_. Especially the Exo–at least SM has a goddamn instant teleportation orb to UC. But they’re both ghost towns. From the Horde perspective, Exodar and those isles are a damned cakewalk compared to Darnassus. Whole freaking city and island are walled up, and you have to get autoflagged going into a capital city, probably killed on zone-in by the guards there, just to get the exploration achievement. I’m allergic to PvP, I’m peaceful by nature! Pampered hippie NElves hanging out in their tree stump and whining about how hard their lives are… _sulks_ On another topic, I made a lvl 1 dorf rogue and ran her out to Loch Modan, just south of the town there, so that my husband and another guildie could finish their achievements. I would have gone farther but I figured that would be a whole lot of effort, while they could just portal to Swamp of Sorrows, fly to the Badlands, and then ride north to get this over with. ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7244 "2009-11-30T20:53:07Z")
Ever have a 13 year-old chanting “Buy it” for 5 minutes when contemplating on whether 4500g was a good price for a Nobles Deck? My son talked me into it and the Darkmoon Fair is coming next weekend to convert it to [Darkmoon Card: Greatness](http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=42987). ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7245 "2009-11-30T21:17:43Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Ever have a 13 year-old chanting “Buy it” for 5 minutes when contemplating on whether 4500g was a good price for a Nobles Deck? My son talked me into it and the Darkmoon Fair is coming next weekend to convert it to [Darkmoon Card: Greatness](http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=42987). Congrats! I have the Agility version of that trinket on my druid for her feral tanking set; gotta love it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7246 "2009-11-30T21:17:51Z")
> [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Ever have a 13 year-old chanting “Buy it” for 5 minutes when contemplating on whether 4500g was a good price for a Nobles Deck? My son talked me into it and the Darkmoon Fair is coming next weekend to convert it to [Darkmoon Card: Greatness](http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=42987). As to whether it’s a good price or not I can’t say (I wanna say I spent around 3k on mine buying cards individually whenever they were priced low) - but I can say you will _love_ the trinket. Depending on what class you’re using it for it’s likely the second or third best trinket in the game (I know it is for hunters - just after the ToC25 ones). You’ll be using that one for a long time… Yet another reason gear-score is worthless when an iLvl 200 trinket can be so OP. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7247 "2009-11-30T21:27:08Z")
> [@Jas09](#): > > Yet another reason gear-score is worthless when an iLvl 200 trinket can be so OP. No kidding! My DK tank is in mostly 245 and 232 gear now, but you can have his Black Heart when you pry it from his cold, dead fingers. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7248 "2009-11-30T21:34:23Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > From the Horde perspective, Exodar and those isles are a damned cakewalk compared to Darnassus. I’ll agree with you there. Any holiday events requiring Hordies to come to Darn are just cruel, given that they’re always on the Teldrassil-side entrance, versus being in the Rut’Theran Village, so you have to run through the whole damned capital to get there. > [@Yeticus\_Rex](#): > > Ever have a 13 year-old chanting “Buy it” for 5 minutes when contemplating on whether 4500g was a good price for a Nobles Deck? IME, the price is on the high side, but it’s a great trinket, and what the hell else are you going to spend it on? > [@Jas09](#): > > Yet another reason gear-score is worthless when an iLvl 200 trinket can be so OP. Sleutel (in otherwise 245 and higher gear) still uses this year’s Brewmaiden trinkets in her MaxEH set (which is what I’m wearing for most of the fights I tank). Fucking Faction Champs in fucking ToC25 won’t drop their fucking trink on regular or Heroic for weeks and fucking weeks now. And the tank lead knows how much I want that fucking trink, too, so I’m always in on that fucking fight. Mumble mumble fucking argh. ---
**Author:** ![lizardling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f4b2a3/32.png) [@lizardling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lizardling)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7249 "2009-11-30T21:56:24Z")
Question for you guys. Since I’m unlikely to get into an Ulduar 10/25 clear for a long time unless I can get pugged by some remote chance, should I go ahead and finish collecting the mats for the Boots of Living Scale? They would be a major upgrade from the Pack-Ice Striders. I ran the numbers and it comes out on paper to about 10dps behind the mail boots that drop in Uld once I enchant/regem everything. I had Conq out my ears so I dropped it on the Runed Orbs, but I can stick them on AH if it turns out that this isn’t a hot idea. The fact that 3.3 is coming up real soon now is making me pause a bit, but then again… ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7250 "2009-11-30T22:20:01Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > Question for you guys. Since I’m unlikely to get into an Ulduar 10/25 clear for a long time unless I can get pugged by some remote chance, should I go ahead and finish collecting the mats for the Boots of Living Scale? They would be a major upgrade from the Pack-Ice Striders. Personally I try to do my best to get as good gear as possible from he sources that are available to me even if there is a potential upgrade that drop somewhere. So go for it, those boots are good and drops are notoriously fickle. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7251 "2009-11-30T22:25:58Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > I ran the numbers and it comes out on paper to about 10dps behind the mail boots that drop in Uld once I enchant/regem everything. I had Conq out my ears so I dropped it on the Runed Orbs, but I can stick them on AH if it turns out that this isn’t a hot idea. The fact that 3.3 is coming up real soon now is making me pause a bit, but then again… 1.) Even if you start running Ulduar tomorrow, and run it every week between now and 3.3, there’s no guarantee that the boots you want will drop. 2.) Getting the combine is like getting up to pee in a restaurant: the thing you’re waiting on is now certain to arrive. 😃 3.) 3.3 probably isn’t dropping for at least a couple more weeks. Maybe a month. In conclusion: Make the boots. ---
**Author:** ![Jbone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/58f4c7/32.png) [@Jbone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jbone)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7252 "2009-11-30T22:29:27Z")
> [@lizardling](#): > > Question for you guys… > > I had Conq out my ears so I dropped it on the Runed Orbs, but I can stick them on AH if it turns out that this isn’t a hot idea. The fact that 3.3 is coming up real soon now is making me pause a bit, but then again… It sounds a little late, but check the AH prices on the runed orbs and also check the vendor price for the ilevel 213 valor emblem bracers. The prices are bind-on-equip and can be auctioned after buying them for 60 emblems of valor. On my server, I’ve seen orb prices at around 200g, but the boe bracers are 1000g+. So instead of spending 54 emblems on orbs, worth ~600g; I spent 60 emblems of valor (converted down from conquest emblems) and have been selling the boe valor bracers for arond 1100g! And as a bonus, the AH doesn’t charge you a deposit to put them up! Anyway, with 3.3 coming out and all the new dungeons, it might be better to hold off unless you absolutely need the upgrade now. I don’t track the news on upcoming changes religiously (I like surprises), but there may be some better drops in the heroics. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7253 "2009-11-30T23:32:33Z")
What is it with account hackers? In the last two weeks we’ve had three guildies’ accounts compromised, including one yesterday who ended up being used to farm Kara most of the day (my WAG was farming for Mongoose enchant), and one account last night who had goddamned **banker** access and stripped our bank of anything blue/purple! Does Blizzard return stuff when that happens? We had a minimal bank theft before due to a hacked account with much more limited access and I’m pretty sure they never gave us jack. I am pissed at the most recent guildie, too - it’s not his **fault** , but he didn’t have an authenticator, and with banker-level GBank access that’s obviously a big blow to the guild. I’m a banker for our guild too and have an authenticator; besides that I also have a long and somewhat complicated password for my account, and regularly update and run both a virus scanner (Avast) and malware scanner (Malwarebytes’ AntiMalware). Plus I like to think I don’t run just any addon. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7254 "2009-11-30T23:56:47Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > They’re pretty inaccessable for _everybody_. Especially the Exo–at least SM has a goddamn instant teleportation orb to UC. But they’re both ghost towns. Frankly, I think all the capitals need portals to each other, except that would put a lot of mages out of work (and, actually, make the teleport spell generally useless and causing much QQ on the WoW forums). These holiday quests that require hitting each of SW/IF/Darn or Org/TB/UC are a royal pain for anybody who isn’t a lvl 40 mage or doesn’t have access to Shatt/Dal. And really, c’mon, a quest to deliver 5 freaking _portions_ of food from SW to Darn is just plain silly 😃 > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > From the Horde perspective, Exodar and those isles are a damned cakewalk compared to Darnassus. Whole freaking city and island are walled up, and you have to get autoflagged going into a capital city, probably killed on zone-in by the guards there, just to get the exploration achievement. I’m allergic to PvP, I’m peaceful by nature! Pampered hippie NElves hanging out in their tree stump and whining about how hard their lives are… _sulks_ OTOH, once you’re through the portal up from Rut’theran, it’s essentially a straight line race. Ride straight _past_ the table area and keep going until you shake the pursuit, then make your way back at your leisure. My belf pally’s run on Darnassus went better/easier than I expected. She was level 68 at the time, and rode the boat from Auberdine, flagged and everything, right next to a level ?? Alliance player who never bothered me. This Alliance player actually rode alongside me all the way through Darnassus, stopped next to me after I’d ridden past the tables and lost pursuit and I was changing from my armor into my pilgrim outfit. But I was facing back in towards Darn at this point, and just as I changed into my pilgrim dress a cat druid whacked me from behind. After doing the tables at both Exodar and Darnassus, I did take the opportunity while I was there to fully explore the zones for those achievements. I did Azuremyst and Bloodmyst naked to demonstrate my peaceful intent, and got a good chuckle punching out a green dragon whelp in my underwear 😛 Another topic … are there _any_ PvPers here? I really need some advice on dealing, as a melee class, with casters and their multitude of techniques for making me lose control of my toon’s movement (Frost Novas, Entangling Roots, various fears, Mind Controls, etc.). As a human paladin I have both the Every Man for Himself racial ability and the Hand of Freedom spell, but those are of limited utility, mainly because of their lengthy cooldowns, when the caster can simply recast their movement-hampering spell the instant I free myself. Obviously, as a melee class, my whole schtick is to run right up to opponents and hit them, something that’s impossible when the combat goes: Mage: Frost Nova pew pew pew Paladin: Every Man for Himself Mage: Frost Nova pew pew pew Paladin: Hand of Freedom Mage: Frost Nova pew pew pew Paladin: Die This isn’t an issue at all in PvE, where the caster mobs aren’t smart enough to run away after freezing/rooting/webbing me in place, and instead just stand there whacking me with their staves while I whack them back. ---
**Author:** ![Mogle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mogle/32/12021_2.png) [@Mogle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mogle)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7255 "2009-12-01T00:40:45Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Mage: Frost Nova pew pew pew > Paladin: Every Man for Himself > Mage: Frost Nova pew pew pew > Paladin: Hand of Freedom > Mage: Frost Nova pew pew pew > Paladin: Die What’s wrong with Cleanse? Frost Nova is a _Magic_ debuff, you can remove it faster than he can cast it. Other than that, bring a friend, this game isn’t balanced around 1v1. I think I said this earlier in the thread(or in the previous one), paladins are very vulnerable to kiting and mages are good kiters, so if you end up fighting a 1 on 1 with competent mage you’re at a disadvantage, no way around that. And to make matters worse your gear isn’t all that great either, right? On a related note, I ran into a 43k hp prot paladin on my warlock today, and that paladin decided that that saronite vein I was mining was supposed to be his. Most of the time well geared prot paladins are almost impossible to kill, sure they don’t do much damage but they don’t take any either. If I end up fighting one on my druid the paladin goes home with a new fur coat. But since my warlock is affliction, this encounter ended with the paladin being kited for a while and then doing a /chicken at me before he died, I found that to be very satisfying. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7256 "2009-12-01T00:52:15Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > What is it with account hackers? In the last two weeks we’ve had three guildies’ accounts compromised, including one yesterday who ended up being used to farm Kara most of the day (my WAG was farming for Mongoose enchant), and one account last night who had goddamned **banker** access and stripped our bank of anything blue/purple! Does Blizzard return stuff when that happens? We had a minimal bank theft before due to a hacked account with much more limited access and I’m pretty sure they never gave us jack. > > I am pissed at the most recent guildie, too - it’s not his **fault** , but he didn’t have an authenticator, and with banker-level GBank access that’s obviously a big blow to the guild. I’m a banker for our guild too and have an authenticator; besides that I also have a long and somewhat complicated password for my account, and regularly update and run both a virus scanner (Avast) and malware scanner (Malwarebytes’ AntiMalware). Plus I like to think I don’t run just any addon. Has it been suggested yet that NO ONE who doesn’t have an authenticator gets Gbank access? That’s the policy that the Daily Kos guild has…to be allowed access _of any kind_ to the Gbank, you must have an authenticator. It’s seven freakin’ bucks, ONE if you have an iphone…if you can afford a subscription to the game, you can afford an authenticator. And Blizzard should return stuff that’s been ganked, but only a limited number of times. They haven’t actually said how many, but it’s not in the double-digits, I don’t think. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7257 "2009-12-01T00:54:55Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Awesome! Are you all excited to get a gryphon? Sure am! And guess what **her** name’s gonna be?😉 **Mister Rik** : Okay, I’ll give QH another try, but you know it also shows that toothy, grinning face and **that** I have found to be accurate. Also, those green square boxes are. My only problem is with the WHITE arrows. **Those** are the ones you mean that are just compass points, right? Thanks! Q ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7258 "2009-12-01T01:20:32Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I think anyone (who has the expansion) can zep to Northrend. I bet a 15 would probably get killed by the spiders sitting just outside the Borean Tundra starting zone, though, even if he didn’t ever go near the door. > [@jayjay](#): > > Yep. I went up there on a 60 the first day I had Wrath, and almost as soon as I got downstairs, one of the Nerubians outside Warsong Hold aggroed me and actually came into the Hold after me. > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > I’m tempted to see how far I can get a single-digit-level toon into Warsong Hold before he gets killed by a spider. > [@jayjay](#): > > What would really be cool is if a single-digit character’s aggro range draws one of those flying ones all the way up to the zep dock. So Darleschikns the level 1 Troll Warrior undertook a scientific expedition to Borean Tundra to determine how far inside the Hold the enemy aggro radii were; a bit disappointing, actually. To the southwest (the part with the stabled wolves) I was able to get about five steps from the entry before a skitterer came in after me - the second time I did this, to verify, I was even able to run away and let the wolves chew up the spider. To the northeast (past the demolishers) and southeast (straight down from the zepp), I was even able to take a couple steps outside before a big bug swooped in and killed me. So I guess anyone who wanted to bring their toons in to train in Warsong Hold would be pretty safe after all. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7259 "2009-12-01T01:37:32Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > So Darleschikns the level 1 Troll Warrior undertook a scientific expedition to Borean Tundra to determine how far inside the Hold the enemy aggro radii were; a bit disappointing, actually. To the southwest (the part with the stabled wolves) I was able to get about five steps from the entry before a skitterer came in after me - the second time I did this, to verify, I was even able to run away and let the wolves chew up the spider. To the northeast (past the demolishers) and southeast (straight down from the zepp), I was even able to take a couple steps outside before a big bug swooped in and killed me. > > So I guess anyone who wanted to bring their toons in to train in Warsong Hold would be pretty safe after all. Three cheers for the scientific method! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7260 "2009-12-01T02:18:35Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Has it been suggested yet that NO ONE who doesn’t have an authenticator gets Gbank access? That’s the policy that the Daily Kos guild has…to be allowed access _of any kind_ to the Gbank, you must have an authenticator. It’s seven freakin’ bucks, ONE if you have an iphone…if you can afford a subscription to the game, you can afford an authenticator. I’m not an officer even though I’m a banker. I have steadfastly refused guild officership. I only offered to be a banker because my friend (the GL) asked, and she knew I was a responsible person. Unfortunately Authenticators were not considered part of the responsibleness. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=362) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=364)