# World of Warcraft General Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294 "2009-03-04T17:44:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 366
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7301 "2009-12-02T04:45:55Z")
Quote: Originally Posted by Quasimodem Sure am! And guess what her name’s gonna be? I **dunno** , but she’ll make Wolkie’s name more literal, that’s for sure! _bolding mine_ Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!:eek::eek::eek:🙂 PLEASE tell me I didn’t just _WHOOSH_ my teacher, my **guru** , my **CAPTAIN**! (no kisses on the forehead, right, **SFG**?:)) _ **SILKA** _ of course! 🙂 (of course, of course. And you have an earbug right now of course! ;)) I decided when I got trained-up in riding last time, that _any_ mount, no matter what animal it may be, will just be **Silka** in another body I’m kinda funny that way… _Dementia_ dontcha know…😉 But I have a question: So **Silka** becomes a flying gryphon mount. If I want to ride cross-country, what? Summon **Silka** the armored? Thanks and I was J/K about the whoosh.😉 Quasi ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7302 "2009-12-02T04:54:40Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > But I have a question: So **Silka** becomes a flying gryphon mount. > > If I want to ride cross-country, what? > > Summon **Silka** the armored? Well, at the moment, anyway, you won’t be able to use flying Silka in the Old World. You can fly in Outland at 60, and in Northrend at 77 or 78…I’m unclear right now. But until Cataclysm (the next expansion pack) comes out next year, you can’t fly in Eastern Kingdoms or Kalimdor. But otherwise, you can use whatever mount you want, **Quasi**. If you want to ride Horse Silka in Outland, you can do that, too. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7303 "2009-12-02T05:28:41Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > (a) They might be [del]retarded[/del] naive. (They get a tell saying, “Hey, you just won a Blizzard contest! Go to www.[plausible-sounding website].com to collect your prize!” and they actually go to the site and enter their account info.) :smack: We were chatting on our Vent channel about the hacking, and the latest-to-be-hacked guy (the one that cleaned the GBank) came on the channel after talking with us in-game - we wanted to confirm his identity. He’s got a distinctive voice and my husband and I have both met him in person, so we confirmed it was the real guy. It turns out this is what happened. He followed one of those forged E-mail spams that we’ve been getting lately, not noticing that it wasn’t real. I’ll bet money that’s what happened to the others as well. ---
**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7304 "2009-12-02T05:39:30Z")
I just got a bad case of the **Mehs** 🙂 I had come back from the Outlands intending to do some clean-up in the Eastern/Western Plaguelands/Winterspring and Un’ Goro Crater (Fragments of the Past, Pamela’s Doll, Alien Ecology, Shin-Toy etc.)? But when I got to Light’s Hope Chapel is when it happened:_I just didn’t wanna_ **be** there! So I’m hopping a portal back to Hellfire Peninsula and finish up my first 2 quests there. Is this common? 🙂 Thanks Q ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7305 "2009-12-02T12:58:26Z")
> [@Quasimodem](#): > > But when I got to Light’s Hope Chapel is when it happened:_I just didn’t wanna_ **be** there! I ALWAYS feel like that when I’m in EPL…even when I was doing at-level quests there (instead of trying to finish achievements), I hated the place. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7306 "2009-12-02T14:46:12Z")
I always cringe when I hear people slagging off DKs, since, hey, that’s my main. But having just healed 3 DKs and a rogue through Ramps, I can see why they do. The tank decided to tank in blood presence because he wanted the bonus healing from Improved Blood Presence; it wouldn’t have bothered me as much if he wasn’t constantly losing aggro to pretty much everyone else, so I wound up throwing shields and flash heals everywhere. Still only a couple wipes, on the final boss, but man that was aggravating. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7307 "2009-12-02T15:05:22Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Well that was a productive fishing daily. Opened the reward bag and got both the Sealed Vial of Poison _and_ the Waterlogged Recipe 😃 I got the Jeweled Fishing Pole last night! Not as useful as the Kalu’ak Fishing Pole (which allows underwater breathing) but much prettier. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7308 "2009-12-02T15:38:37Z")
The good: After god-knows-how-many weeks of running both regular and Heroic ToC25, I finally got [Satrina’s Impeding Scarab](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47080)! So long, [Bitter Balebrew](http://www.wowhead.com/?item=49116). 😃 The medium: I’ve just received 6,000 gold, a ToC25 recipe, and a Crusader Orb. I also got to pull some things from the bank like gems, herbs, and meat. This would be awesome, except it’s my share of the gbank after… The bad: My guild broke up last night. ☹ > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Is that the one with the dwarf in Stormwind Keep that says something like, “Bring me a Mark of Honor from each battleground …”? Yup. I think he’s actually in every capital. > [@](#): > > Speaking of buffs, I’m coming to the conclusion that there is really no point in handing out the “Greater” versions of my Blessings to the teammates who are resurrecting next to me at the graveyard. Good call. > [@](#): > > Also, is there really in point in giving casters Blessing of Wisdom in a BG? It seems that mana regen is the least of their concerns in a BG, since they likely won’t survive long enough to run out of mana, and so a Blessing of Kings might be more beneficial. I’d say that’s a good analysis. The extra Stam especially would be helpful in PvP, where it wouldn’t be in PvE. > [@Bosstone](#): > > Now that I have a job again, I feel kinda like **Guns** in that I’ve got all this catching-up to do on the thread, just at different hours. Multi-quotes ahoy! > [@](#): > > The bubble is still there, between Silverpine Forests and Alterac Mountains. If the ghost boat is under Arathi Highlands, it’s possible if unlikely that the bubble is within viewing distance. Really? I could swear it’s just a [sparkly hole in the ground](http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&sa=1&q=dalaran+crater&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&start=0) now. > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Nothing like Convention at the Legerdemain several days in a row to completely wipe out my stock of Chilled Meats :mad: Personally, I love Convention these days. My favorite combo is Convention or Cheese and then Jewel of the Sewers for Fishing. And if you think Convention is bad now… you should have tried it when it was 12 or 14 Chilled Meat. (I can’t remember which–all I recall is that it would decimate my supply.) > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Quests in the west in green. Let 'em go, or go **back** and get 'em? Well, at green, they’ll be easy, and still give you some XP and rewards. However, anything you’ll get in Outland will be waaaaay better gear, and more XP. IMO, ditch 'em. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > _ **SILKA** _ of course! 🙂 But of course! :smack: > [@](#): > > If I want to ride cross-country, what? > > Summon **Silka** the armored? Yup! Any time you’re somewhere that you want to ride, or that you can’t fly, bring out fast armored horse Silka. > [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > He followed one of those forged E-mail spams that we’ve been getting lately, not noticing that it wasn’t real. I’ll bet money that’s what happened to the others as well. Aha, so it was in fact that he was [del]retar[/del] naive. > [@Quasimodem](#): > > Is this common? Yup! Most people will hop straight to the expansion zone as soon as they can, and never look back. 😃 > [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > The tank decided to tank in blood presence because he wanted the bonus healing from Improved Blood Presence; it wouldn’t have bothered me as much if he wasn’t constantly losing aggro to pretty much everyone else, so I wound up throwing shields and flash heals everywhere. :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack: He wouldn’t NEED the extra healing if he were in FROST, at which point he would STILL retain the bonus healing he gets from BLOOD. ARGH ARGH ARGH. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7309 "2009-12-02T15:47:46Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack::smack: > He wouldn’t NEED the extra healing if he were in FROST, at which point he would STILL retain the bonus healing he gets from BLOOD. ARGH ARGH ARGH. Actually, I think Imp. Blood Presence gives you extra bonuses to healing in blood presence; it gives you some extra “vampiric” self-healing when you’re in other presences. Or at least that’s what I remember from reading the tooltip last night. But, yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7310 "2009-12-02T15:56:09Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Actually, I think Imp. Blood Presence gives you extra bonuses to healing in blood presence; it gives you some extra “vampiric” self-healing when you’re in other presences. Or at least that’s what I remember from reading the tooltip last night. But, yeah. That was what I was saying, but I phrased it poorly. [QUOTE=Improved Blood Presence] While in Frost Presence or Unholy Presence, you retain 4% healing from Blood Presence, and healing done to you is increased by 10% in Blood Presence. [/QUOTE] So let’s call that 4% Bonus A and the 10% Bonus B. I was trying to say that he wouldn’t need Bonus B if he were in Frost (i.e., taking less damage), and he’d still have Bonus A. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7311 "2009-12-02T16:12:04Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > The medium: I’ve just received 6,000 gold, a ToC25 recipe, and a Crusader Orb. I also got to pull some things from the bank like gems, herbs, and meat. This would be awesome, except it’s my share of the gbank after… > > The bad: My guild broke up last night. ☹ Ack, sorry to hear about your guild. Not **too** much lasting drama involved, I hope? My husband became guild leader of our guild way back in BC. The guild leader (with a main who’s a mage) had been, unbeknownst to us, putting out feelers to get into a big raiding guild, and needed to boost his gear. So we have a raid in Kara, one of our first excursions in there, and a nice caster piece drops. People are checking it out, and suddenly he makes the pronouncement on the spot that no healers are allowed to roll on it. I forget the exact reasoning he gave, but I think it was something like “healers get enough +Heal pieces so anything with +Spellpower, even if it also has +Heal, is priority for casters” (this was before the consolidation of the two into just plain Spellpower). People went WTF?! as this had never been a rule before. In retrospect, after learning of his plans through reports from other people, we figured he was weighting it in favor of him getting that loot to help his likelihood at getting into UberGuild. There was a small debate. I forget what happened since I wasn’t in the raid, I think they came to some decision and moved along. The debate was moved to our guild forum, where a lot of people said that was kind of screwed up, and at least was not a good thing to dump on people at the spur of the moment, after a piece of gear drops. In the wee hours of the morning, the GL posted to the website something inflammatory, and then took his ball and went home - he guild-disbanded. Goodbye, guild bank. Goodbye, guild channel to let suddenly guildless-upon-logging-in people know what happened. I logged in early that morning, went WTF-where’s-the-guild, and checked the website. Then I started checking my friends list and /who’ing anyone who I thought would be online. We wrote up a charter for a temp guild until we could vote on a new guild name - the old name was very much associated with this guy as he used it as a battlecry/“I’m in the zone, hi” announcement/etc. and we wanted to drop it - and deputized members to look for arriving and confused ex-guildies and bring them back in. My husband got the job of GL because he’d been second-in-command, and because no one else wanted the responsibility. 😉 Even though he handed off the reins since, he’s still very much an ambassador/contact person of our guild for others. He and I also pay for the website and Vent channel, as we abandoned the old one. And on the topic of believing spam and getting hacked, yeah, I’m very surprised that this guy was taken in. They were discussing possible hacking methods on Vent, as he was concerned what else of his information might be compromised, and someone mentioned forged E-mail/in-game mail. He got **really** quiet, then admitted he thought he’d gotten a real E-mail from Blizzard. I haven’t received any in E-mail (just in-game), but my husband did - and it had been routed straight to his spam box. He didn’t even open it. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7312 "2009-12-02T16:26:33Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Ack, sorry to hear about your guild. Not **too** much lasting drama involved, I hope? No, no drama, and no actual /gdisband. The GM has to step away for a while for real life stuff, and recruitment has become too much of a problem for us to really field a strong 25-man group consistently (every raid night) where everyone is contributing and no one is getting carried through hardmodes. The bitch of it now is going to be finding a guild that: (a) Needs a very geared and experienced Prot War; (b) Needs a Resto Druid who’s a great raider but has been on hiatus, and is therefore less geared and experienced with the current endgame content; (c) Would take a Warlock who’s less geared and experienced with current endgame content but would like to get back into, say, Ulduar; (d) Would take a Holy/Ret Pally who doesn’t have time to raid but still likes to play with us; (e) Is relatively drama-free and full of players who aren’t full of themselves; (f) Is well progressed in the current content; and ETA: (g) Is Alliance-side on a non-PvP server. Good fucking luck. :\ > [@](#): > > People are checking it out, and suddenly he makes the pronouncement on the spot that no healers are allowed to roll on it. I forget the exact reasoning he gave, but I think it was something like “healers get enough +Heal pieces so anything with +Spellpower, even if it also has +Heal, is priority for casters” :rolleyes: Sounds like a real winner. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7313 "2009-12-02T16:26:49Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > So let’s call that 4% Bonus A and the 10% Bonus B. I was trying to say that he wouldn’t need Bonus B if he were in Frost (i.e., taking less damage), and he’d still have Bonus A. Yeah. I also wondered if he had the talent that drops your threat when you’re in blood presence, but didn’t have the heart to ask. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7314 "2009-12-02T16:30:09Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Yeah. I also wondered if he had the talent that drops your threat when you’re in blood presence, but didn’t have the heart to ask. I wouldn’t be surprised. Fail DK is fail. :smack: Oh, and **Ferret Herder** , what’s especially hilarious is that if your former GM was applying to a guild anything like the one I was just in, having +Heal gear on a Mage would be a pretty good reason to turn you down. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7315 "2009-12-02T16:32:42Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > No, no drama, and no actual /gdisband. The GM has to step away for a while for real life stuff, and recruitment has become too much of a problem for us to really field a strong 25-man group consistently (every raid night) where everyone is contributing and no one is getting carried through hardmodes. > > The bitch of it now is going to be finding a guild that: > (a) Needs a very geared and experienced Prot War; > (b) Needs a Resto Druid who’s a great raider but has been on hiatus, and is therefore less geared and experienced with the current endgame content; > (c) Would take a Warlock who’s less geared and experienced with current endgame content but would like to get back into, say, Ulduar; > (d) Would take a Holy/Ret Pally who doesn’t have time to raid but still likes to play with us; > (e) Is relatively drama-free and full of players who aren’t full of themselves; > (f) Is well progressed in the current content; and > ETA: (g) Is Alliance-side on a non-PvP server. > > Good fucking luck. :\ Ugh, that’s rough. I’m on Sen’jin (PvE server) where we semi-recently had Premonition transfer over… so of course we have all these Alliance people doing character transfers and then babbling on the official server forum about how ‘omg I’m \ and looking for a great raiding guild… _hint, hint_’ I’m sure they do this in Trade chat on the Alliance side but I don’t see that being Horde. We occasionally have lvl 1s created by people thinking of transferring their characters. When they ask in Trade - instead of doing any research - about who’s the most progressed guild, a lot of us just say “Premonition :P”. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7316 "2009-12-02T16:42:52Z")
**SFG** , I **think** the gear was combination SP/Heal, and he was trying to say that healers should stick with Heal-only, claiming there was way more gear for them. Nice theory to spring on people after some SP/Heal bracers drop. He’s one of the few people in-game that I absolutely will not talk to unless I have to. Dude was a headcase; I know he had issues and also external problems (GF broke up with him after traveling overseas; they had a house together) but it’s no reason to be that big of a jerk in-game. I think our being casual lets us be more open to attracting headcases, because they don’t get pushed out by rules and regulations as quickly. We had one guy who left, then returned for a while, then left with a bang that was high on drama and low on reasons; even his RL friends told us “we don’t know WTF is up with him.” One ex-member we’re pretty sure has bipolar disorder because whoa, his behavior really matches stuff I’ve seen in people diagnosed with it; he also goes through ‘omg teh drama’ bouts of leaving the game forever, no really, only to come back later, and still treats my husband and I like we’re his bestest friends, which we really don’t want to be. Especially since his ex-GF told us that he hit her. And then there’s the guy I mentioned before whose own wife has repeatedly booted him out of her guild for bad behavior. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7317 "2009-12-02T17:16:53Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > **SFG** , I **think** the gear was combination SP/Heal, and he was trying to say that healers should stick with Heal-only, claiming there was way more gear for them. Nice theory to spring on people after some SP/Heal bracers drop. Oh, I got it. I was just saying that his “clever” way of stacking the deck to get himself some better gear to apply to a more hardcore guild… would potentially backfire if the guild was anything like mine. I.e., they wouldn’t look at the gear and say, “Oh my, what a nice ilvl,” they’d say, “Why the fuck does a Mage have gear with a useless stat on it?” ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7318 "2009-12-02T17:30:33Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I wouldn’t be surprised. Fail DK is fail. :smack: > Oh, and **Ferret Herder** , what’s especially hilarious is that if your former GM was applying to a guild anything like the one I was just in, having +Heal gear on a Mage would be a pretty good reason to turn you down. heh, then they must not know many people from guilds where everybody is so well equipped that every healer is maxed on toys, so a mage picked it up because it boosted some other important stat … because no healer needed it and nobody wanted to bother DEing it… ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294/7319 "2009-12-02T17:50:40Z")
Asshat GL story I heard I while back: The guild I was in at the time decided we needed to boost the GBank’s gold supply, and so decided to implement a voluntary “tax” on members lvl 60 and higher. It was no big deal, just a small weekly payment based on your level. In exchange, everybody who paid in had access to repair money from the GB. One guild member was a little hesitant about the tax because of something that happened in his previous guild. His GL had announced the GB needed more money, and so he asked all the higher-level members to make a one-time deposit of something like 100g into the bank. Everybody did so. The next day the GL showed up on his shiny new epic flying mount. :smack: Most of the rest of the guild said, “Congratulations. See ya!” I’ve been doing more actual questing lately on my main (as opposed to just running dailies), and earned [The Summit of Storm Peaks], the achievement for completing 100 quests in Storm Peaks, on 11/21. Then I headed to Argent Vanguard and started doing the quests there. Finally, _finally_ I get to see this “phasing” I’ve heard so much about in action!\* I did the whole starting quest chain there, up through the big battle with the cannons, and it’s cool the way the battlefield has remained clear of enemies (and is in fact now littered with undead corpses), and the Argent Crusade soldiers there all cheer me every time I go through there. Then it was off to clear out the three Scourge bosses on the other side of The Breach, and they’re all still dead. And finally, capturing and helping establish the base at Crusader’s Pinnacle. Very Cool Stuff. - Okay, I guess I’d previously seen some phasing over there with the Sons of Hodir\*\*, what with those various relics in their fortress (Fjorn’s Anvil, Hodir’s Horn, Helm, and Spear) that weren’t there before I did the quests to fetch them.) \*\* I’m only doing 4 of the 6 SoH dailies now. I’ve been skipping Thrusting Hodir’s Spear anyway, after the first few tries just kept ending with me getting dropped from a height and dying. And I’ve stopped doing the one for the big worg den mother - that one is just boring, following a ghosty worg around waiting for it to eventually find something for me to hit. So now I’m doing the quest chain for Tirion Fordring (holy crap, he’s … grown … since I “rescued” him back in the Plaguelands) to find a cure for that Crusader who’s infected with the Plague. The bit where you have to go talk to Remulos back at Moonglade appears to be bugged — when I talked to the druid at Argent Vanguard to get a portal to Moonglade, I had to ask her four times before the portal finally appeared. Then for the return trip, it took six or seven tries before Remulos successfully opened a portal for the return trip. In both cases, the NPC would make the gestures and there’d be a _poof_ sound, but otherwise nothing would happen. When it was the druid at Argent Vanguard I figured it was related to the massive lag I was seeing in Northrend (even away from Dalaran), but then I decided it was a bug when the same thing happened in Moonglade. Anyway, now I’m at Wyrmrest Temple picking up the chain where I left off last night. And … I’ve decided which faction I’m going to grind rep with next. I talked to the Wyrmrest Accord quartermaster and saw what she has to offer … I’mma get me some new pants! And a Tailoring pattern for a 32-slot Enchanting bag (did I mention I’m a Tailor/Enchanter?) and a new 1-hand sword! Okay, I don’t normally use a 1-hander and shield, but the sword is better than the 1-hander that’s sitting in my bank. It’s a shame that the plate chest piece only comes in a tank version, though. But at least the pants will make a nice PvE replacement for the Savage Saronite Legplates I’ve been wearing for a very long time. Does the Wyrmrest Accord offer more dailies than just the one where you fly around on a red dragon and shoot down blue dragons? I’ve still got the Wanton Warlord quest sitting in my log … do more dailies open up when I finish that? And speaking of rep grinding, where the hell do you go to earn rep with The Silver Covenant? The _only_ Silver Covenant outpost I’ve even seen is the one down in Crystalsong Forest, and there are no quests there. (Interestingly, I recently noticed for the first time that, despite the fact that doing the Dal cooking daily earns Kirin Tor rep, the NPC handing out the daily belongs to The Silver Covenant. What’s up with that?) I’d really like to get Exalted with the Alliance Vanguard, and it appears that the way to do that is to earn rep with the four sub-factions: Explorer’s League (Current status Friendly, 4029/6000), The Frostborn (Friendly, 1378/6000), The Silver Covenant (Neutral) and Valiance Expedition (Exalted). I’ve done, as near as I can tell, all of the Explorer’s League quests in Howling Fjord and Storm Peaks, and I simply don’t think I’ve seen them or their quests anywhere else in Northrend, so I’m not sure how to get past Friendly with them. I’ve done all the Frostborn quests in Storm Peaks, and they only seem to have the one daily (that one’s kind of fun). And as I said, I haven’t seen a single Silver Covenant quest. On the PvP front, I didn’t do any BGs yesterday, but I somehow ended up in a conversation with a lvl 80 warlock in SW who is an experienced BG participant, and he/she (I never actually saw this person) offered to group with me for BGs in the future, along with a few of his/her other BG partners. I cheerfully accepted the offer, realizing that BGs will probably go a little better if I’m able to actually coordinate actions with a team instead of just having a bunch of disconnected people running around doing whatever looks best at the moment. So we’ll see how that works out. ---
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> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Does the Wyrmrest Accord offer more dailies than just the one where you fly around on a red dragon and shoot down blue dragons? There’s a couple dailies in Coldarra (Borean Tundra) - one where you go catch a baby dragon, which is much easier once you’ve got a flying mount yourself (I think this one is technically a low-level quest at 80 so it might not show up as a blue exclamation point unless you have low-level quest tracking on); and one new one that opens up at some level in the high 70s, which involves flying a different red dragon around and shooting down blue dragons, way up above the Nexus. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=365) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/world-of-warcraft-general-discussion/488294.md?page=367)